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Love--what is it about it that makes one feel victim to jealousy, irrational & down right tragic in the end? However miniscule or epic Love always requires a choice to make in the end.No ---for you hopeless Romantics-- i am not talking about the mortal Love between a Romeo & a Juliet or God forbid--or of the other abnormal love that i cannot get into right now.My Main subject is ---Love for our maker, our creator, our Most Merciful Supreme God-- Allah.Love to Allah means everything.Throught out Mankind History--stemming from Prophet Adam(PbUH)--our Father, to Sheytan or Satan who was once Allah's Favorite Angel.Love has been the center theme of all the problem that caused Adam & Eve to be cast out of heaven, earth formed & finally the result was a chain of Mankind hopelessly seeking Love every where.Lets Start with Prophent Adam,Allah chose him to be special, thereby ---Causing Sheytan to feel envious over Prophet Adam. (Pbuh).Evil was born out of envy or competition for the Love of Allah.The Satan who was once among the favorites-- was fumed to learn a better prefered life created right before his eyes.Satan was never naturally evil--he was once an Angel who competed for the Love of God.Then Prophet Adam (pbuh) & Hawo followed-- where Evil in itself then being fresh & new--began to misuse his natural powers to evil deeds.There is where the Good guy & the Bad Guy philosphy was born.Upon eating the forbidden fruit--Allah saw that as a violation of obedience, thus--a provocation of Love.They were duely cast out of Heaven as a result.Later --on earth the first murder happened between two brothers--the sons of Prophet Adam. (pbuh).The Fight was as a result of one son feeling his gift was not accepted by God, thus followed rage, envy & a murder.One sons envy of his brother being prefered more than himself.Where it was not the really so--because one brother loved Allah more & thus took great care & thoughts on picking the right gift.Not saying that he didn't love Allah--but there is a degree in Loving' in itself.And ever since --Allah's prophets who were chosen by God to spread decent lifestyle at first--which transformed to religion of Islam later through the last prophets --until to the BEST of all prefered Prophets, Muhhamed (Phbu) who was given the honor of being revealed the last compiled book of religion-Quran.(featuring teachings of Islam)

The moral of my analysis here is--the keys to Heaven is not by blind followship of a religion as an insitition of faith but to love Allah.We should follow Quran, not the institution of Islam which humanity through time have misinterpreted.the 'Choice' i was talking about a while ago where Love is bound you to make--is to LOVE ALLAH --whole heartedly--& completely. When we are told that the BIGGEST sin is to compare ALLAH to another God--is because --Allah values your love for him MOST- than anything else.The emphasis here is LOVE Allah & only.The purpose of Mankind here on earth we are told is to Worship Allah--- & thus this very Whorshipping translates to Love.You need to open your heart & put Allah FIRST & FOR MOST. Forget about this mortal earthly love---Loving ALLAH is the prime, ultimate gift you can give to your maker.Loving is ALLAH is essentially-----The REAL LOVE!!!!!!

What do you think of this thinking??? Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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I had to say that I never ever readed your long posts but used to scan throught it. But my eyes cought on this pragraph and I loved:

"The moral of my analysis here is--the keys to Heaven is not by blind followship of a religion as an insitition of faith but to love Allah.We should follow Quran, not the institution of Islam which humanity through time have misinterpreted.the 'Choice' i was talking about a while ago where Love is bound you to make--is to LOVE ALLAH --whole heartedly--& completely. When we are told that the BIGGEST sin is to compare ALLAH to another God--is because --Allah values your love for him MOST- than anything else.The purpose of Mankind we are told is to Worship Allah--- & thus that Whorshipping translates to Loves.You need to open your heart & put Allah FIRST & FOR MOST. Forget about this mortal eartly love---Loving ALLAH is the prime, ultimate gift you can give to your maker.Loving ALLAH is essentially-----The REAL LOVE!!!!!! "

Nicely put.
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'but used to scan throught it. But my eyes cought on this pragraph and I loved: '



Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing



Oh My God! Who do u fear?? Seriously!!! Who do u think will be mad at you for 'reading' my long posts?? I think u should have the guts to say it openly that u read ALL my long posts with great silent delight.You DONT have to explain yourself dear. You are such a follower --never a leader! uffff Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Basra,

My question to you is: how do you believe in something -- HEAVEN -- that has not scintilla of evidence showing it's existance?
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Hippo you have earned yourself some good deeds. Contribute often with words of enlightenment rather then your calcaal.
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Dhuso

Who created you???? Can u answer q--as simple as possible? Laughing Laughing



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Your perceptions never ceases to amaze me. Due persist Smile
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[quote="Basra-"]Dhuso

Who created you???? Can u answer q--as simple as possible? [/quote]


mother and fatehr. now answer my question
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Cherokee aka Nabeela

And your moody depression since during 'Hibo' days always makes me smile. Smile



Dhuso--know i didn't say WHO gave birth to you. How do u think humans came into existance? Sad
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[quote = Basra] What do you think of this thinking? [/quote]

Extremely ignorant at best, and downright foolish at worst.

First and foremost, there is a gross error and flaw in your understanding of the myth of Adam and Hawa. I shall attempt to highlight these:

[quote = Basra] Satan was never naturally evil--he was once an Angel [/quote]

Wrong- Iblees was never an angel (that's the Christian version of events) he was (or so the legend goes) a jinn amongst the angels.

[quote = Basra] When we are told that the BIGGEST sin is to compare ALLAH to another God--is because --Allah values your love for him MOST [/quote]

Why's Allah so vainglorious? Why does he want to roast and burn the flesh of any that donÂ’t recognize his greatness?

Moreover, what does it say about god and his sense of morality that he's willing to pardon a mass murderer who's wrought untold misery and hurt on Allah's creation just because he believes in him, yet torture a humanitarian who doesn't believe in eternal torture?

Doesn't quite add up to the sound mind does it?
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Big moma, now you've completely lost it. Who the heck is hibo ?
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[quote="Basra-"] Dhuso--know i didn't say WHO gave birth to you. [quote]

Oh let me guess you wanted to ask who CREATED me right? Well that's typical theistic obssession, unfortunately there is NO reason or evidence to believe we were created in the first place. In fact, it's not even a question but a loaded statement with question mark at the end.



[quote]How do u think humans came into existance? Sad[/quote]

Evolution. How else?
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Acuudu Bilaah,

If you ever heard of Laba wejiileh, it is this Basra = Agnostic...
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Cherokee@loooooool oh did I shock u??? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing




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'Moreover, what does it say about god and his sense of morality that he's willing to pardon a mass murderer who's wrought untold misery and hurt on Allah's creation just because he believes in him'



What in the world of common sense are you mumbling about?? Please--try to imagine i am not in your pathetic delusional head & clarify your point to a more succinct alacrity! Thank you! Very Happy

PS: Jiin---Angel-- same deal--just different word-semantics! Razz Laughing Laughing

Dhuso--Evolution??? SO u are basically telling me you a descendant of a chimp?? Then we have nothing more to discuss. I dont speak Monkey Language. Rolling Eyes Laughing Laughing




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Basra,

I'll try it again: how do you believe in something -- HEAVEN -- that has not scintilla of evidence showing it's existance?
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