SOMALILAND THREATEN TO FIGHT UIC IN MOG

[Somaliman%]

Faysal Cali Warabe's [in] famous saying: “a boy born in Hargeisa has more commonality with one born in Addis Ababa than one in Mogadishu.”

"Inanka Xamar ku dhasha, Kan Addis Ababa ku dhasha ayaa iga xiga "


“haddii ay afkooda bedeli waayaan, Itoobiya ayaad sheegaysaaye anagaaba geli doona…Sidaa darteed, waxaanu mar labaad uga digaynaa in aanu Somaliland carabku kaga dhicin mar dambe. Haddii carabku idinkaga dhaco mar dambena, anagu wax wayn baanu idin yeeli karnaa … Laakiin haddii ONLF, Itaxaad iyo yam-yam iyo qadaad weyn ay isku soo tuuraan, iska daa Itoobiya’e adduunka oo dhanbaa idinla dagaalami doona. Markaa waxaan leeyahay talo xumaantii shalay aad is-daba wadeen oo cumaamadan, oo gadh la baxday uun ha samaysanina”


Guddoomiyaha Xisbiga mucaaradka ah ee UCID Md. Faysal Cali Waraabe, ayaa waraysi dheer oo dhinacyo badan leh oo uu siiyay wargeyska Ogaal digniin ugu jeediyay Midawga Maxkamadaha Muqdisho, inay carabka ka dhigaan hadal-haynta midnimo Soomaaliyeed, taas oo uu ku tilmaamay inay furrin kale ku furayso. Isla markaana, wuxuu ugu baaqay beelihii ay xurguftu ku dhex martay degaanka Darroor ee Kililka shanaad, inay sidiisii u dabaqaan heshiiskii laga gaadhay wixii dhexdoda ka dhacay, wax kasta oo ay kala tabanayaanna ay ku dhameeyaan wada-hadal oo aanay marnaba xabbad isku adeegsan.

Waraysigaasi oo guddoomiyaha UCID wax lagaga waydiiyay, xaaladda siyaasadeed ee mandaqadda, sida uu u arko gelitaanka ciidamada Itoobiya ee Soomaaliya, taageerada ay siinayaan Cabdilaahi Yuusuf, mawqifka xukuumadda Somaliland ee ku wajahan arrintaas, dhaliilaha dhinaca dimuquraadiyadda ee Xisbiyada dhexdooda, iyo arrimo kale oo tiro badan, wuxuu u dhacay sidan;

S: dhinac kale haddii aynu eegno, Soomaaliya waxa ka aloosan xaalad colaadeed, ciidamada Itoobiyana waa taa la sheegayo inay gudaha Soomaaliya galeen, markaa haddii dagaal halkaa ka qarxo, ma u malaynaysaa ama ma qiimayn kartaa in uu saamayn ku yeelan karo Somaliland.?

J: Saamayn wuu inagu yeelanayaa, oo waad aragtaayoo Itoobiyadaa dalka la aqoonsan yahay ah baaba tidhi waan iska moosayaa, oo soo tallowday. Markaa wuu inagu yeelanayaa. Nimankan Maxaakiimta qaarkood siday u hadlayaan ee ay u leeyihiin shantii Soomaaliyeed oo dhan ayaanu gaadhaynaa. Anagu horena talo ayaanu ugu jeedinay oo waxaanu ku nidhi dalkiina hoog ha u horseedina, dunidanna mujtamac kasta oo dhibaato haysato, waxa u soo jiida Madax xun, hogaan xunna dhibaatadiisa lagama baxo. Markaa waxaad moodaa inay ku jiraan qaar Somaliland ku hadraya, oo Somaliland-ba u haysta gaalnimo, oo ka hadlaya midnimo iyo waxaan loo fadhiyin, shakhsiyaadna halkan way ku leeyihiin. Laakiin, waxaanu u sheegaynaa anagu, Somaliland in aan Imbghati lagu soo samayn, ee toban sano loo soo dagaalamayay, dhiig loo qubay, dadkuna ay samaysteen Somaliland, oo kala soo noqdeen Soomaaliya. Markaa kuwa sidaa u hadlayaa haddii ay afkooda bedeli waayaan, Itoobiya ayaad sheegaysaaye anagaaba geli doona. Haddii aydaan na soo daandaansan, in dhulkaa nabadi ka dhacdo, wanaag ka dhaco, oo aynu walaalo noqono waanu ogolnahay, laakiin, dalkii Soomaaliya la odhan jiray inta leh waa la yaqaanaa, markaa dadka lehi waa inay ka taliyaan. Laakiin haddii ONLF, Itaxaad iyo yam-yam iyo qadaad weyn ay isku soo tuuraan, iska daa ItoobiyaÂ’e adduunka oo dhanbaa idinla dagaalami doona. Markaa waxaan leeyahay talo xumaantii shalay aad is-daba wadeen oo cumaamadan, oo gadh la baxday uun ha samaysanina.

S: oo imika qaabka isbedelada Maxaakiimtu ay horkacayaan uu u socdaa, siduu kuugu muuqdaa?.

J: ilaa hadda siday u socdaan gees way ka fiican yihiin, laakiin waxa la rabaa inay muuqaal la akhriyi karo yeeshaan, imika la akhriyi kari maayee. Isla markaana inay siyaasad yeeshaan, oo ay calool adaygaan, horena waxaan u idhi, waar Imbgathi dawlad maaha ee idinku intaad jewi nabadeed Xamar ka samaysaan, shir dib-u-heshiisiin ah oo wanaagsan oo sax ah, oo aanay ONLF-na idinku jirin, reerkiiniina idinku jirin sameeya, oo isbasriya oo dhulkiina ku ekaada. Laakiin, is-balaadhis, Maraykanbaa is-balaadhin kari laÂ’. Sidaa darteed, waxaanu mar labaad uga digaynaa in aanu Somaliland carabku kaga dhicin mar dambe. Haddii carabku idinkaga dhaco mar dambena, anagu wax wayn baanu idin yeeli karnaa, dhawr furimood inaad isku furtaanna idinkay idiin xun tahay. Markaa, adduunkana waa inay shakiga ka saaraan, si aanay Muqdisho u noqon sidii Kaabuul (Afgaanistaan), lab-la-kac aan meel gaadhsiisnayna waa in la iska daayaa.

S: xukuumadda Somaliland iyo Itoobiya waxa ka dhaxeeya xidhiidh fiican, isla markaana Itoobiya waxay hadda u hiilinaysaa maamulka Cabdilaahi Yuusuf. Markaa haddii sidaa dagaal ku qarxo, siday saamaynta arrintaasi ku noqonaysaa Somaliland?

J: horta barigii hore Itoobiya waxa lagala dagaalami jiray Somaliland, dagaalkana waxa hor dareemi jiray Somaliland. markay Itoobiya iyo Soomaaliya dhibaato ka dhex dhacdo, Somaliland ayaa forontka ahaan jirtay, Hargeysa ayaa la duqayn jiray, ee Muqdisho lama duqayn jirin. Markaa, hadda forontku wuu inaga fogaanayaa, oo waxa lagu dagaalamayaa Doollow, Gedo iyo Baay. Laakiin, kollay Islaam-nimadaaba xataa ka soo sokaysa Soomaali-nimada, kolay dad damqanaya oo reer Somaliland ah oo shacbi ah, oo intay halkan ka baxaan xagaa u taga inay daafacaan Muqdisho way jiri karaan. Hase yeeshee, taa macnaheedu maaha kaalay Muqdishooy I xukun isku dal baynu nahaye, ee waa si la mid ah sidii ka Soomaaliyeedba u tagi jiray Afgaanistaan. Laakiin, sidan Galaal sheegayo oo kale noqon mayso. Galaal waxaan leeyahay wax waddaniyad Soomaaliyeed la yidhaahdaa ma jirto, oo idinkaa baabiÂ’iyay, soona noqon mayso. Soomaali waxa u dan ah in dhinac kastaaba dalkiisa hagaajisto. Laakiin, Galaal oo Jannan ahaa, oo 15 sano Muqdisho maamul ka samayn kari waayay, inuu shan Soomaaliyeed oo aan jirin ku riyoodo maaha. Inuu iska daayo weeye, waayo ninkii gurigiisa hagaajiyay ayaa guri kalena hagaajin kara. Runtuna waxa weeye in Soomaalidu ay shan meelood tahay, markaa mid kastaba meesheed Ilaahay khayr ha ku siiyo.

S: bayaankii wada jirka ahaa ee hore ee aad kaga hadasheen xayiraad-ka-qaadista hubka, waxaad ku sheegteen in Somaliland ay iska caabbin galayso. Maxaad uga jeedeen taa?.

J: Cabdilaahi Yuusuf waa ninka qudha ee Soomaaliyeed ee intuu istaagay yidhi waxaan samaysanayaa dawlad-goboleed qabiil ku dhisan. cid kale oo ay ka suuro gali karto inay yidhaahdaan reerkayaga ayaanu maamul gaar ah u samaynaynaa ma jirto. Haddana, waa ninka isaga oo sidaas ah yidhi Soomaali baan xukumayaa, ee Madaxnimo soo doontay. Laakiin, waxa nasiib darro ah ninkii sidaa lahaa kuwa doortay. Kuwaasi habeen may jirin.
Cabdilaahi Yuusuf ilaa maalintii la doortay ilaa maanta hub urursi buu ku jiraa. Yemen hubkuu ka helay, inkastoo aanay dawladdeenu ka hadal, hubkiina reerkooduu siiyay. Imikana waxa uu doonayaa Cabdilaahi Yuusuf in xabashiyi timaado, oo in Koonfur uun loo qabto maahee ilaa Somaliland loo qabto ayuu doonayaa, oo inta dadka loo garba-duubo hubka looga dhigo oo uu mamlakad ka samaysto ayuu doonayaa.

Anigu caqligaasi meel ay kala yimaadeen garan maayee, waxay ku sheekaystaan nimankaa reer barigu Soomaali anagaa xukumi jirnay. Meel ay wax ku xukumi jireen iyo dad ay addoonsan jireen anagu garan maynee, laba dawladood oo isku darsaday baanu ahayn, oo iyaga oo maynoorati ah ayaa RaÂ’iisal Wasaare Soomaalinimo loo siiyay, tii waxay u qaateen oo 15 jirkoodu uu ku odhanayaa Soomaali anagaa xukumi jirnay. Laakiin, waxaanu u sheegaynaa waxba inaanay xukumi jirin, ee Soomaaliyi wax isku darsatay, dimuquraadiyadna lagu doortay Cabdirisaaq, Cabdirashiid iyo Maxamed Xaaji Ibraahin Cigaal. Sidaa aawadeed, hubka la siinayo Cabdilaahi Yuusuf anagu indhaha ka qarsan mayno.

Rayaale-na waa la doortay laakiin haddii uu dalka daafici waayo, anagaa daafacayna, isagana amar uga qaadan maynee way joogaan jabhaddii iyo shacbigii Afweyne ka xoreeyay. Markaa haddii ay Rayaale isku arkeen Sanca iyo Itoobiya oo uu been u sheegay, Rayaale wuu iska tegi doonaa, dalkana anagaa daafici doona.

Rayaale farbaa ku godan ilaa intuu tagay Yemen, intuu tagay Itoobiya, labada jeerba iyo xataa Kenya way isku arkeen Cabdilaahi Yuusuf. Markaa, arrimahaa waa inuu shacbiga u soo bandhigaa, balse waxba ina yeeli mayso.

[SAIFULLAH_1]

waar soo koob im not going to read all of this

[Somaliman%]

let me summerise it for you.
it's an interview of somaliland minister a party leader.
and he says if the islamists talk about somaliland. somaliland not just ethopia will go to mogadisho to sort them out.
his a very racist paranoid man. anti riiyoole. and against abdulahi yusuf and puntland.

it's just empty threats...as usual.................

[Otali]

isaaks are indeed habashi lackeys lock,stock and barrel,but that will soon be sorted out...howver that be that as it may, they are NO WAY near the fuuckin doroos sucking those habashis,among of them the very so called Ogaden ONLF,who were found to be the prime scouts guiding the habashi army into somalia

[Ceelgabo]

Somaliland will let in fighting, Habashees and puppet warlords take care of the fake Shiekhs....

[gurey25]

[quote="Otali"]isaaks are indeed habashi lackeys lock,stock and barrel,but that will soon be sorted out...howver that be that as it may, they are NO WAY near the fuuckin doroos **** those habashis,among of them the very so called Ogaden ONLF,who were found to be the prime scouts guiding the habashi army into somalia [/quote]

lets put it this way, if they should mind thier own business we would mind ours, but they cant and they wont , and sooner or later we will be in conflict.

my personal opinion is that the courts are a people movement and
since they represent the people, they have my respect, and the respect of the majority of somalilanders.

[fagash_killer]

this is nothing new to me, but idoors can only talk, faysal ali waraabe is a fool and he dont know what he's talking about, he should had focused on those few dhulso who captured their tikinikos, and those soldiers who surrended to lascanood, but what can he do, remember that his enemy are today the rulers of isaaqland, talk talk talk and once again talk thats all they can do

[gurey25]

faqashboy do not wish for what is comming,
we should pray it doesnt happen

[Otali]

Mr. Gurey

Glad to hear your raw views on the UIC, but tell me this:


what is your views on the isaaks like Jama Ghalib working in the UIC, do they represent you?


2and what of the proposed new govt which the americans, along with UN and the socalled Somali Contact Group are talking about....what position will somaliland take, since it is intended to be for all of somalia to quote US official
"a functioning government for Somalia"


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US Decries Meddling in Somalia, Urges Dialogue
By David Gollust
State Department
26 July 2006

The United States Wednesday urged Somalia's neighbors to avoid actions that would complicate efforts to create a functioning government there. The appeal followed news reports that Eritrea and Ethiopia may be backing rival factions in the war-ravaged country.

Islamic Courts militiamen burn an Ethiopian flag in Mogadishu


The Bush administration is again urging the main parties in the Somalia conflict to commit to dialogue for a unity government, and it is calling on Somalia's neighbors to avoid any actions that might complicate those efforts.


The U.S. appeal followed reports Wednesday that a Kazakh cargo plane carrying arms from Eritrea for Islamic militants had arrived in the Somali capital Mogadishu, and news accounts last week that Ethiopia had sent troops to shore up the country's transitional government based in Baidoa.


Both Eritrea and Ethiopia have denied intervening in the long-running Somali conflict and officials here say they cannot verify the news reports.


However, the State Department is taking the accounts seriously. At a news briefing, State Department Deputy Spokesman Tom Casey said it is important that Somalia's neighbors avoid any actions that would make the political reconciliation process in Somalia more difficult than it already is.


"We certainly don't want to see, whether it's Eritrea, or Ethiopia, or Kazakhstan, or any other country, engage or get involved in efforts to support any violence in that country," he said. "Again, Somalia's problems over the years have been caused by a resort to arms, and a resort to violence. We need to get away from that, in order to be able to create and establish a government that functions, a government that works, and a government that can serve the Somali people.


Spokesman Casey reiterated a U.S. appeal Tuesday for the country's now-dominant Islamic Courts Union militia movement and the U.N.-backed transitional government in Baidoa to recommit to dialogue and work together to establish a functioning government for Somalia, which has been lacking for more than a decade.


That statement called on all Somali parties to cease hostile actions, avoid inflammatory rhetoric and accusations, and recommit to peace through dialogue under a seven-point framework adopted by the sides in Khartoum June 22.


Somalia's long-running civil conflict took a new turn in early June when the Islamic Courts Union seized Mogadishu and routed a coalition of warlords.


The United States acknowledged having supported factions opposing the Islamic militiamen, citing concerns they might give safe haven to al-Qaida terrorists known to be in the country.


After it seized Mogadishu, the Islamic Courts Union denied any intention to foster terrorism and said it wanted dialogue with the United States and other major powers.


The United States and several other countries formed a contact group on Somalia, which met in New York June 15, endorsing the transitional institutions as a framework for a new government and appealing for humanitarian aid.


The Bush administration has since been urging the Baidoa-based authorities and the Islamists to resume talks that led to the Khartoum agreement, which provides for mutual recognition and peace talks without preconditions.

[QansaGabeyle]

"anagu wax wayn baanu idin yeeli karnaa"

What the fu ck can Somaliland do? That is the like the weakest region in Somalia. Probably send F UCKING STREET hookers to spread AIDS.



"Laakiin haddii ONLF, Itaxaad iyo yam-yam iyo qadaad weyn ay isku soo tuuraan, iska daa ItoobiyaÂ’e adduunka oo dhanbaa idinla dagaalami doona."

Ninka fuleeysanaa. Wuu booteeni and in the same fu cking sentence he will show cabsidiisa. No one will to your rescue when you get raped by the courts. Adduunka oo dhan baa la dagaalami the courts kulahaa.

[gurey25]

Ghalib and others do not represent thier people.
they did not stand for election, they did not form political parties.
All they did was go outside of Somaliland and collect money for them selves.

that statement is irrelavant
we are not somalia and will not participate in any negotiations.

[Otali]

heheh gurey

tough talk, however, it does seem that somaliland is included in that statement

as you would recall my ,message to the isaak masses/leadership

was to forgo isolationism and seek to get their share of the national power

like it or not that is where we are at NOW: either play or be played

[gurey25]

Thats the problem, you cant get your head around.
We already consider ourselves independant, and besides we did not join in
on the past 14 peace conferances, the previous carta "government"
or this one. What makes you think anything has changed?

The international community has not come to a decision yet, and so in the meantime they refer to Somalia as a whole, while they know our position very well.
Until they take a desicion the're attitude is "why rock the boat"?

[Galol]

War ma anaa waalan mise Otali sidan ma ahaan jirin?

Oo yarkii cirkaasuu marayaaye maxaa helay?

[Otali]

Gurey you CAN'T be serious!

Man,you just contradicted yourself by saying that in FACT the international community in that statement did regard somaliland as part and parcel of that new functioning government they want for Somalia, but at the same time you say they mentally know that you don't consider yourself part of the negiogations for that government which nevertheless will have legal authority over somaliland

so wouldn't be very prudent for somaliland's interest to take part in those negiogations!!!