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Why The US Opposes Cuba

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:56 pm
by avowedly-agnostic
As Noam Chomsky remarks, Uncle Fidel committed the unforgiveable sin of dismissing the capitalist system from his native land. Simply so, the Goliath hates him and punishes Cuba, thus hoping to disuade other peoples from throwing off exploitation and oppression.

The US fears Cuba because the Cuban Revolution values human beings, in contrast to the US system which values material success. All the prattle about a Cuban “transition to democracy” ignores the fact that the Cuban people are already by far the best educated and, in many ways, the best off people in Latin America. This despite 45 years of the US embargo

What we can say with some certainty is that the life of ordinary Cubans is better than most other people in South America.

Every Cuban has free medical care (could we say the same about the US?), Every Cuban has free education right through to graduate school ( is the same true for the US & UK?) , everyone in Cuba has a place to live, there are no homeless people. Every Cuban is guaranteed a minimal alotment of food, every day. Every Cuban is entitled to a pension by law.

The right to criticise the government is not as great as it could be- and as it ought to be, but this is due in large part to the US's constant threat to the country (the invasion of the Bay of Pigs being the clearest example of US aggression) since Cubans rose up against the brutal US backed dictator Fulgencio Batista.

The US opposes Cuba not because it's undemocratic (because it supports brutal dictatorships in the Middle East and elsewhere) but because it represents a succesful defiance that's managed to holdout for so long against US hegemony and control.

Overall the Cuban Revolution has been a success story and Fidel Castro is a great leader whose done more for humanity than any other world leader in the 20th century. We have a lot more to gain from adopting CubaÂ’s ways than they have from adopting ours.

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:24 pm
by avowedly-agnostic
I forgot to add just one small minor detail...

Long live uncle Fidel

Down with capitalism

Up with the rule of the people!

Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:25 pm
by Ceelgabo
Who gives rats ass about old fart who held power too long... Fidal its time to give up power to some else.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:09 am
by mahamed99_sex
[quote="avowedly-agnostic"]I forgot to add just one small minor detail...

Long live uncle Fidel

Down with capitalism

Up with the rule of the people![/quote]

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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:30 am
by Steeler [Crawler2]
I don't want to disappoint you here, but Americans like their economic model and certainly don't fear Cubas.

Castro aligned himself with the Soviets during the cold war. That was guaranteed to lead to conflict between the US and Cuba.

Now, Castro can deliver zero votes to the presidency. The Cuban-Americans living in Miami, which want Castro gone, can usually deliver Florida, a key state. This ain't rocket science.

Furthermore, your notion that Castro values human beings in contrast to the US is such bullshit, it's difficult to stomach. Castro is a fascist, who jails or kills all political opposition. You talk about him like he's a good guy.

I am oppossed to the embargo cause I don't think they work and can be counter-productive and I would like to go there, do some dancing and fock some Cuban women who I find hot. But I am under no illusion that Cuba is some sort of utopia. I have enough Cuban acquaintances to know the real deal.

Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:43 am
by avowedly-agnostic
"I don't want to disappoint you here, but Americans like their economic model and certainly don't fear Cubas. "

I'm referring to the US establishment, not the average American layman. And I'm sure the elite like the US economic model for it means privatisation of essential services like medical care and higher education.

"Furthermore, your notion that Castro values human beings in contrast to the US is such bullshit, it's difficult to stomach. Castro is a fascist, who jails or kills all political opposition."

The notion that uncle Fidel is a fascist is laughable. Is that why his Cuban troops fought alongside Nelson Mandela's ANC to remove the fascist South African Apartheid regime- because he's a fascist? I suspect in your book everyone whom you don't like is a fascist.

My only qualm with Fidel is his restrictions on critical public dialogue, and political parties. But the allegation that he's killed his political opponents is absurd and unfounded. You're going to have to back up a claim as grave as that, though I suspect from your tone that you're not even confident in making that assertion and that it's nothing more than propaganda.

And yes he does value human beings, his socialist system in stark contrast to the US's capitalist model puts people before profits . I wonder what the working class American thinks of his system, whereby whether a doctor treats him or not depends on how fat his wallet is.

Cuban doctors are the first to volunteer to help earthquake and other disaster victims all over the world. Pakistan will remember the contribution Cuban doctors made to their recent earthquake victims who lived and remained amongst Pakistanis throughtout the winter when other aid agencies had left. That's sufficient evidence of Castro's dedication to fighting poverty around the globe.

"But I am under no illusion that Cuba is some sort of utopia."

You're right, it's not a utopia, despite the many achievements of Cuba, it's still a poor island, but it's a whole lot better than it was in the pre-revolutionary days.

"I am oppossed to the embargo cause I don't think they work and can be counter-productive and I would like to go there, do some dancing and fock some Cuban women who I find hot."

You might have problems finding a Cuban senorita to sleep with your right wing, Yankee ass that opposes her country's Revolution. You're more likely to get a good aerobics kick in the family jewels than any shagging, when she finds out your kind would make a prostitute out of her were it not for uncle Fidel.