Evidence that USA really wants to destroy somalia.

[galia]

Antony Barnett and Patrick Smith
Sunday September 10, 2006
The Observer


Dramatic evidence that America is involved in illegal mercenary operations in east Africa has emerged in a string of confidential emails seen by The Observer. The leaked communications between US private military companies suggest the CIA had knowledge of the plans to run covert military operations inside Somalia - against UN rulings - and they hint at involvement of British security firms.
The emails, dated June this year, reveal how US firms have been planning undercover missions in support of President Abdullahi Yusuf's transitional federal government - founded with UN backing in 2004 - against the Supreme Islamic Courts Council - a radical Muslim militia which took control of Mogadishu, the country's capital, also in June promising national unity under Sharia law.

Evidence of foreign involvement in the conflict would not only breach the UN arms embargo but could destabilise the entire region.

One email dated Friday, 16 June, is from Michele Ballarin, chief executive of Select Armor - a US military firm based in Virginia. Ballarin's email was sent to a number of individuals including Chris Farina of the Florida-based military company ATS Worldwide.

Ballarin said: 'Boys: Successful meeting with President Abdullay Yussef [sic] and his chief staff personnel in Nairobi, Kenya on Tuesday ... where he invited us to his private hotel suite flacked by security detail ... He has appointed is chief of presidential protocol as our go to during this phase.'

She refers to one 'closed-door meeting' with a senior UN figure and mentions there are 'a number of Brit security firms' also looking to get involved.

Ballarin claimed she has been given 'carte blanche' to use three bases in Somalia 'and the air access to reach them'.

She then suggests that the CIA have been kept informed of the plans. Ballarin states: 'My contact whom we discussed from the agency side requested an in-person meeting with me. I arrived in New York at 2340 last night and was driven to Virginia - arriving at 0200 today.'

According to the highly respected newsletter, Africa Confidential, which originally published extracts of the emails last week, Select Armor started its operation planning in Kampala, Uganda. The emails suggest that the Ugandan government were willing to help secure arms supplies for any operation although this is denied by security officials in Kampala.

In one reply to Ballarin, Farina said: 'A forced entry operation [into Mogadishu] at this point without the addition of follow-on forces who can capitalise on the momentum/initiative of the initial op will result in a replay of Dien Bien Phu'. This is a reference to the defeat of French colonial forces in Indochina in 1953.

The website of Farina's company ATS boasts it 'can execute operations in support of host national indigenous forces'. ATS claims it uses former US and British special operations personnel.

One email discussing funding of any operation sent from Farina to Ballarin states: 'We may have to re-focus our efforts in the US among the DOS [State Department] and DOD [Defence Department] to bring any forward movement to this effort.'

The Observer left several messages with both Select and ATS requesting interviews but nobody responded. Ballarin told Africa Confidential last week that the company's operations in Somalia were 'classified'.

[eyes-only]

There was nothing secret about their operations in Somalia, everyone knew about them. They are going down the same ill-advised route they did during their invasion. They just donÂ’t understand Somalis.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Destroy Somalia? It's already destroyed!

I love the liberal interpretation of the word "illegal". As if UN sanction is required for any op to be legal or as if the embargo on arms means no military ops are permissable at all without UN sanction.

Guess the Islamic courts are illegal, as they are armed and bringing arms into the country.

Who is this focking twit writing this crap.

[SomeGuy]

That doesn't seem destruction. In fact, it seemed to me kind of help!

[eyes-only]

It doesnÂ’t matter whether you people see it as destruction or not, the point is the US was illegally arming warlords. Nothing really new here, I mean you would expect they would develop a better strategy by now. Anyway, the only significant thing about that article is that A. Yusuf was in on it all along as many people suspected.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

The US was not illegally arming warlords. The US did not facillitate the bringing in of any weapons into Somalia. As usual eyes, you're twising your facts. Working with and arming are not the same thing.

[fagash_killer]

nothing new their, uncle sam will never learn, they are making an big mistake,they lost billion of dollars in somalia, they lost their puppets, ethopia is about to collapse,the only thing they can do is pay money to countries like djiboutie, kenya, to support foreign troops in somalia, but the q still remains what do they archieve with that, this will only unite somalis, the fact is zionists lost power, what uncle sam must know is somalis arent arabs, just like sheikh sharif axmed said, we will teach you a lesson you'll never forget

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Fagash
What lesson do the Somalis have to teach anyone? How to destroy your own country? How to gang rape your own women. Please, enlighten me.

[eyes-only]

Whatever you say mad.

Paying warlords to get illegal arms and giving them the illegal weapons yourself is the same thing in my book. Besides, there are still claims out there that the US supplied the warlords with more than just money and that the US is working with Ethiopia who supplied the weapons to the warlords and still supplies weapons to them. On top of that the US was also involved in kidnappings, let as not get bogged down into AmericaÂ’s International law breaking record in that part of the world.

They are not going to get anywhere because ultimately their policy is wrong and their understanding of the people and the issues there are all wrong.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

First of all, we did not give them any weapons, illegal or otherwise.

Secondly, if you had things your way, we would just give the Islamists a free hand - never going to happen. We will kill them whenever and wherever we can.

How else do you expect the US to deal with Aweys and crew?

[fagash_killer]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Fagash
What lesson do the Somalis have to teach anyone? How to destroy your own country? How to gang rape your own women. Please, enlighten me.[/quote]

is washington dc not more deadly than iraq,the truth is, more Americans are being killed daily in Washington, D.C., than in Baghdad. i stil remember when uncle sam, told the nation that major combat operations in Iraq had ended, 52 U.S. soldiers have been killed in hostilities, In the same period of time, however, 66 Americans were attacked and killed on Washington, D.C.'s mean streets, a city with a total population of 600,000. dude we all have problems like that, but its in their interest to use divide and rule strategy, so that zionists can rule the world, but however unlike the rest of muslim countries, can we eassily come out chaos and destruction, americans should learn their lesson, and stay out of somalia

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Fagash
Are you saying that Washington DC is as dangerous as Baghdad? Get off the crack buddy.

[eyes-only]

[quote="MAD MAC"]First of all, we did not give them any weapons, illegal or otherwise.

Secondly, if you had things your way, we would just give the Islamists a free hand - never going to happen. We will kill them whenever and wherever we can.

How else do you expect the US to deal with Aweys and crew?[/quote]




Stop going on like WE this WE that. You are nothing to the CIA and the people running the show in America and nothing to anyone else for that matter. People like you are only foot soldiers who only know how to follow the command of their superiors. Take your “yes sir” mentality somewhere else. I can’t be bothered with a delusional moron that like you.

[fagash_killer]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Fagash
Are you saying that Washington DC is as dangerous as Baghdad? Get off the crack buddy.[/quote]

the violent death rate in Iraq is 25.71 per 100,000

That may sound high, but not when you compare it to places like Colombia (61.7), South Africa (49.6), Jamaica (32.4), and Venezuela (31.6). How about the violent death rates in American cities? New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina was 53.1. FBI statistics for 2004-05 have Washington at 45.9, Baltimore at 37.7, and Atlanta at 34.9.

Now, I looked at the stats on the FBI site, and it does note that for the District, the rate was 35.8, as is noted above. Sadly, when looking at the listing of all the states, DC appears to rank highest in this category - compared to other states and territories mind you

[Alluring]

[quote="MAD MAC"]First of all, we did not give them any weapons, illegal or otherwise.

Secondly, if you had things your way, we would just give the Islamists a free hand - never going to happen. We will kill them whenever and wherever we can.

How else do you expect the US to deal with Aweys and crew?[/quote]

You are so dumb. Omgosh, I've never seen anyone that dumb. Do you not read, are you in your old little mind?

United States goverment gives weapons to countries, for PURE killing reasons. The PROOF is in the pudding.

They gave weapons to Saddam to kill the kurts and to fight in Kuwait. Than years later they call them the "enemy".

SPARE ME THE BULLSHIT!