Islam's Imperial Dreams: A good read by Ephraim Karsh
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[quote="Grant"]Now there is an argument I would like to see you take up with Aiman Al Zuwaheri and Ahmadinejad.
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You have offended President Ahmedinejad by lumping him with Ayman al zawahiri.
ahmedinejad is a regular guy, who has the backing of his entire country
and support and sympathy from around the world for standing up to Western Imperialists and the Zionists, who see it as thier right to interfere in his country.
His comments about annhilating isreal, is seen as no more outragous than those comments uttered by Western Politicians about regime change in Iran, at least thats how the rest of the world see it.
on the other hand Ayman al zawahiri and Osama bin ladin are irelevant
they have little to no support , no influence.
There image is the creation of the Western media that require a boogeman. Alqadida doesnt exist and if it did it is quite harmless.




You have offended President Ahmedinejad by lumping him with Ayman al zawahiri.
ahmedinejad is a regular guy, who has the backing of his entire country
and support and sympathy from around the world for standing up to Western Imperialists and the Zionists, who see it as thier right to interfere in his country.
His comments about annhilating isreal, is seen as no more outragous than those comments uttered by Western Politicians about regime change in Iran, at least thats how the rest of the world see it.
on the other hand Ayman al zawahiri and Osama bin ladin are irelevant
they have little to no support , no influence.
There image is the creation of the Western media that require a boogeman. Alqadida doesnt exist and if it did it is quite harmless.
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"His comments about annhilating isreal, is seen as no more outragous than those comments uttered by Western Politicians about regime change in Iran, at least thats how the rest of the world see it. "
Gurey25,
That is an excellent point u make. If Ahmedinejad is loony for talking about the destruction of another country, what does that make George Bush who actually destroyed a country(Iraq).?
In any case, his words were mistranslated. He uses language that is identical to Khomeini's when discussing Israel, nuanced and metaphysical and political. A correct translation of the offending word is not annihilating Israel but something like Ending the zionist state. Not quite the same. History may be kinder to him in this case than, let us say George Bush; the same way history is kinder to Khadafi who called for the End of the apartheid state when Reagan and Thatcher were calling for "constructive engagement" with that racist and malignant regime.
Gurey25,
That is an excellent point u make. If Ahmedinejad is loony for talking about the destruction of another country, what does that make George Bush who actually destroyed a country(Iraq).?
In any case, his words were mistranslated. He uses language that is identical to Khomeini's when discussing Israel, nuanced and metaphysical and political. A correct translation of the offending word is not annihilating Israel but something like Ending the zionist state. Not quite the same. History may be kinder to him in this case than, let us say George Bush; the same way history is kinder to Khadafi who called for the End of the apartheid state when Reagan and Thatcher were calling for "constructive engagement" with that racist and malignant regime.
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The day will come when Islam's imperial dreams turns reality. Islam doesnt' have to impose religion or its way of life on others but the preaching of Islam based on tolerance and knowledge and the final conquest of the world will lead to its materialization.
BTws,
I wonder why Western authors often ignore the contribution of Islamic civilization to the world. Why not show gratitude that without Islam, we would have been in the dark ages.
BTws,
I wonder why Western authors often ignore the contribution of Islamic civilization to the world. Why not show gratitude that without Islam, we would have been in the dark ages.
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[quote="ABSAME'"]The day will come when Islam's imperial dreams turns reality. Islam doesnt' have impose religion or its way of life on others but the preaching based on tolerance and knowledge and the final conquest of the world will lead to its materialization. [quote]
you might want to re-write the above. you contradict yourself a half dozen times in 2 sentences.
[quote] Why not show gratitude that without Islam, we would have been in the dark ages.[/quote]
without Islam, we would still have todays world. made even better with 1.2 billion less delusional ppl.
record keeping and stamp collecting is not science. which is what Islam did. with all the knowledge Islam got from the lands it conquered, it wasn't able to use 'em to invent or innovate anything. it was the europeans who invented the telescope, microscope, discovered lenses even though the muslims had the requisite knowledge for centuries.
you might want to re-write the above. you contradict yourself a half dozen times in 2 sentences.
[quote] Why not show gratitude that without Islam, we would have been in the dark ages.[/quote]
without Islam, we would still have todays world. made even better with 1.2 billion less delusional ppl.
record keeping and stamp collecting is not science. which is what Islam did. with all the knowledge Islam got from the lands it conquered, it wasn't able to use 'em to invent or innovate anything. it was the europeans who invented the telescope, microscope, discovered lenses even though the muslims had the requisite knowledge for centuries.
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