ICU and Somaliweyn Fallacy.
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ICU and Somaliweyn Fallacy.
I am reading the ICU ultimate goal is to have a greater somalia, instead of just pacifying the old somali republic and putting that country back in business.
I am from NFD, Kenya (somalida Kenya) and under no circumstance would we accept the ICU to start war in our homeland ostensibly to 'free' us from gaalo rule.
It seems the ICU is learning to run before they walk.
Unlike the somalis in kilanka 5aad or Ogadenia, the somalis in NFD are happy to be in Kenya, they're well integrated in that country.
Is this just paper talk or are the ICU really that crazy?
I am from NFD, Kenya (somalida Kenya) and under no circumstance would we accept the ICU to start war in our homeland ostensibly to 'free' us from gaalo rule.
It seems the ICU is learning to run before they walk.
Unlike the somalis in kilanka 5aad or Ogadenia, the somalis in NFD are happy to be in Kenya, they're well integrated in that country.
Is this just paper talk or are the ICU really that crazy?
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What integrated? do you call drinking from the muddy river in Garissa integerated?
Listen! somalis in Kenya are the weakest link---they don't have a political party, they don't have a rebel group fighting for freedom. they aren't working on being free from Kenya. the speak kiswahili--and their are constantly beaten and bullied by Kenya police.
the northeast kenya is the least developed part of Kenya.
Listen! somalis in Kenya are the weakest link---they don't have a political party, they don't have a rebel group fighting for freedom. they aren't working on being free from Kenya. the speak kiswahili--and their are constantly beaten and bullied by Kenya police.
the northeast kenya is the least developed part of Kenya.
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[quote="Kramer"]What integrated? do you call drinking from the muddy river in Garissa integerated?
Listen! somalis in Kenya are the weakest link---they don't have a political party, they don't have a rebel group fighting for freedom. they aren't working on being free from Kenya. the speak kiswahili--and their are constantly beaten and bullied by Kenya police.
the northeast kenya is the least developed part of Kenya.[/quote]
All of that is true to some extent, we're happy that way saaxib
What we have is peace and security and we're not prepared to lose that.
We drink very clean water from river Tana these days and Garissa is growing everyday, but I am not here to boast about that.
We just dont want to be part of Somalia.
Listen! somalis in Kenya are the weakest link---they don't have a political party, they don't have a rebel group fighting for freedom. they aren't working on being free from Kenya. the speak kiswahili--and their are constantly beaten and bullied by Kenya police.
the northeast kenya is the least developed part of Kenya.[/quote]
All of that is true to some extent, we're happy that way saaxib

What we have is peace and security and we're not prepared to lose that.
We drink very clean water from river Tana these days and Garissa is growing everyday, but I am not here to boast about that.
We just dont want to be part of Somalia.
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Sxb -u will never be integerated to Kenya no matter how many Swahilis u rape
u Sujuis need to either develope your region and dominate kenya politics and business --But if can't do that --then its really stupid idea to integerate into a Christian, Bantu country where u will always be a minority with no voice.
u Sujuis need to either develope your region and dominate kenya politics and business --But if can't do that --then its really stupid idea to integerate into a Christian, Bantu country where u will always be a minority with no voice.
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[quote="Kramer"]Sxb -u will never be integerated to Kenya no matter how many Swahilis u rape
u Sujuis need to either develope your region and dominate kenya politics and business --But if can't do that --then its really stupid idea to integerate into a Christian, Bantu country where u will always be a minority with no voice.[/quote]
or Perhaps became an independent country if that is plausable.
u Sujuis need to either develope your region and dominate kenya politics and business --But if can't do that --then its really stupid idea to integerate into a Christian, Bantu country where u will always be a minority with no voice.[/quote]
or Perhaps became an independent country if that is plausable.
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The Degodiye & Ajuuraan support Somaliweyn in the future.
LordDiplock and the Ogaden support any position that will make them no. 1 even under Kenyatti domination. They serve as Key informants.
It was a Ogaden chief who squashed a referendum that would have returned Garissa to Somalia.
During the "Raaf" of 1989, it was the Ogadens in Kenya who took money from Afweyne to weed out NonKenyatii Sijues and send them back to SOmalia. Afweyne's goal was to remove the Somali Citizens who lived in Kenya with Kenya Sharci because he believed they funded the USC & SNM.
Maxamed Qanyare was a victim but escaped after laluush was paid before he was to be deported on the Somali Airlines flight to Mogadishu were Afweyne's NSS were waiting
LordDiplock and the Ogaden support any position that will make them no. 1 even under Kenyatti domination. They serve as Key informants.
It was a Ogaden chief who squashed a referendum that would have returned Garissa to Somalia.
During the "Raaf" of 1989, it was the Ogadens in Kenya who took money from Afweyne to weed out NonKenyatii Sijues and send them back to SOmalia. Afweyne's goal was to remove the Somali Citizens who lived in Kenya with Kenya Sharci because he believed they funded the USC & SNM.
Maxamed Qanyare was a victim but escaped after laluush was paid before he was to be deported on the Somali Airlines flight to Mogadishu were Afweyne's NSS were waiting
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If you are happy to live on your knees, that is your low caste problem.
I am ready to die on my feet saxib.
kenyan somalis are a conquered, powerless, humiliated, disgraced people. They are in worse state than colonial times.
At least the palestinians in Gaza are fighting back.
Allah will never lift the humiliation until we return to our diin.
That is where maxkamaha come in.
I am ready to die on my feet saxib.
kenyan somalis are a conquered, powerless, humiliated, disgraced people. They are in worse state than colonial times.
At least the palestinians in Gaza are fighting back.
Allah will never lift the humiliation until we return to our diin.
That is where maxkamaha come in.
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[quote="AbdiWahab252"]The Degodiye & Ajuuraan support Somaliweyn in the future.
LordDiplock and the Ogaden support any position that will make them no. 1 even under Kenyatti domination. They serve as Key informants.
It was a Ogaden chief who squashed a referendum that would have returned Garissa to Somalia.
During the "Raaf" of 1989, it was the Ogadens in Kenya who took money from Afweyne to weed out NonKenyatii Sijues and send them back to SOmalia. Afweyne's goal was to remove the Somali Citizens who lived in Kenya with Kenya Sharci because he believed they funded the USC & SNM.
Maxamed Qanyare was a victim but escaped after laluush was paid before he was to be deported on the Somali Airlines flight to Mogadishu were Afweyne's NSS were waiting[/quote]
Abdiwahab saaxib you're very clever and u should stand for a public office, how about the head of finance in Galmudug state?
It is true indeed and a sad indictment on us (Caagdheers) for colluding with Barre regime and oust many decent and well meaning somalis from NFD.
It was a disgrace and my uncle (Mr. Mohamed Yussuf Haji, ex-PC of Rift Valley, now MP for Ijara constituency, de factor leader of Abdalla sub-clan) was the ringleader in that sordid affair.
We want to work with both Ajuurans and Degodia but not HG lead ICU saaxib
LordDiplock and the Ogaden support any position that will make them no. 1 even under Kenyatti domination. They serve as Key informants.
It was a Ogaden chief who squashed a referendum that would have returned Garissa to Somalia.
During the "Raaf" of 1989, it was the Ogadens in Kenya who took money from Afweyne to weed out NonKenyatii Sijues and send them back to SOmalia. Afweyne's goal was to remove the Somali Citizens who lived in Kenya with Kenya Sharci because he believed they funded the USC & SNM.
Maxamed Qanyare was a victim but escaped after laluush was paid before he was to be deported on the Somali Airlines flight to Mogadishu were Afweyne's NSS were waiting[/quote]




Abdiwahab saaxib you're very clever and u should stand for a public office, how about the head of finance in Galmudug state?
It is true indeed and a sad indictment on us (Caagdheers) for colluding with Barre regime and oust many decent and well meaning somalis from NFD.
It was a disgrace and my uncle (Mr. Mohamed Yussuf Haji, ex-PC of Rift Valley, now MP for Ijara constituency, de factor leader of Abdalla sub-clan) was the ringleader in that sordid affair.
We want to work with both Ajuurans and Degodia but not HG lead ICU saaxib

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[quote="AbdiWahab252"]The Degodiye & Ajuuraan support Somaliweyn in the future.
LordDiplock and the Ogaden support any position that will make them no. 1 even under Kenyatti domination. They serve as Key informants.
^^^
those folks you mentioned(Degodia & Ajuran) hardly believe in being Walalo(hawiye) they have been killing each other for decades and wat benefit would they bring to Somali weyn???
[quote]It was a Ogaden chief who squashed a referendum that would have returned Garissa to Somalia.[/quote]
^^At that time your granddad was busy farting while his gari dameer business was at its peek.
[quote]During the "Raaf" of 1989, it was the Ogadens in Kenya who took money from Afweyne to weed out NonKenyatii Sijues and send them back to SOmalia. Afweyne's goal was to remove the Somali Citizens who lived in Kenya with Kenya Sharci because he believed they funded the USC & SNM.[/quote]
In 1989 Siyaad Bare had lost the Ogaden respect as his folks were busy in the infamous Jubaland massacre so your case has less ground.
[quote]Maxamed Qanyare was a victim but escaped after laluush was paid before he was to be deported on the Somali Airlines flight to Mogadishu were Afweyne's NSS were waiting[/quote]
^^ this lunatic was trying to outsmart the code of conduct when he was caught offguard.
LordDiplock and the Ogaden support any position that will make them no. 1 even under Kenyatti domination. They serve as Key informants.
^^^
those folks you mentioned(Degodia & Ajuran) hardly believe in being Walalo(hawiye) they have been killing each other for decades and wat benefit would they bring to Somali weyn???
[quote]It was a Ogaden chief who squashed a referendum that would have returned Garissa to Somalia.[/quote]
^^At that time your granddad was busy farting while his gari dameer business was at its peek.
[quote]During the "Raaf" of 1989, it was the Ogadens in Kenya who took money from Afweyne to weed out NonKenyatii Sijues and send them back to SOmalia. Afweyne's goal was to remove the Somali Citizens who lived in Kenya with Kenya Sharci because he believed they funded the USC & SNM.[/quote]
In 1989 Siyaad Bare had lost the Ogaden respect as his folks were busy in the infamous Jubaland massacre so your case has less ground.
[quote]Maxamed Qanyare was a victim but escaped after laluush was paid before he was to be deported on the Somali Airlines flight to Mogadishu were Afweyne's NSS were waiting[/quote]
^^ this lunatic was trying to outsmart the code of conduct when he was caught offguard.

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[quote="COSTA"]Ogaadeenka NFD waa Cabdalla
waa niman jiljilacsan
war wuxu muxuu yiraahdey i like kikuyu to govern me forever
MAN I KNOW NOW WHY MAXAMAD ZUBEER ARE THE REAL MENCOUSE CABDALLA ARE PUSSIES
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You fool there is no distinction between Ogaden.
If you have Some issues with Cabdala go to Godey.
waa niman jiljilacsan

war wuxu muxuu yiraahdey i like kikuyu to govern me forever






MAN I KNOW NOW WHY MAXAMAD ZUBEER ARE THE REAL MENCOUSE CABDALLA ARE PUSSIES


You fool there is no distinction between Ogaden.
If you have Some issues with Cabdala go to Godey.
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