http://allafrica.com/stories/200611090142.html
After just watching 'The Last King of Scotland' ........the movie about Uganda dictator Idi Amiin, I don't think it's such a good idea.
I wonder if machetes are part of the arms embago.
Ugandan/Kenyan Peacekeepers wanna come to Somalia
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these forces should come in and this stupid embargo lifted. read this old article about abdiqasim who is now calling for jihad. is he still one of your allies with hirale and jva? they should have brought troops long time ago.
Truculent Abdiqasim and his Warlords in Somalia
By Ahmed Hersi
Al-Jazeerah, March 27 ,2005
I was surfing the net when I came across an article, titled, “Somalia must pay arrears to win new loans,” on March 25, which was addressed to the newly-established Transitional Federal Government of Somalia (TFG). It demands the payment of an outstanding $430 million that was given to the former transitional government (TNG) in the form of assistance. Thus, in order to win a new loan, the new government must pay it as a condition for another loan.
Suddenly, a wave of shock interrupted my thought process from its natural course, a normal course of recycling previous information that my brain had recorded and used for a period of five years. Initially, I was impressed by the said integrity of Abdiqasim as authority figure and democratically elected president, but I was proven entirely wrong of these pre-recorded conceptions. In fact, my country was never forgotten in terms of humanitarian and financial aid despite the ceaseless blight of Somalia. The TNG of Abdiqasim did not fail because of deficient trust and support from nationwide but deceptive schemes that betrayed its promises and which had led to the treacherous renegades. In this regard, Abdiqasim and his former interim government stand responsible for the onerous task that was left unfulfilled, along with the subsequent corruption and embezzlement, which sprang up after the government began to function in Somalia. Dr. Ali Khalif's defection, for instance, with an alleged sum of national funds was a noteworthy lead of the TNG's collapse and succeeding activities that eroded its resources.
Faced with uncertainties, Abdiqasim underestimated the effective reshuffling of his cabinet to rescue it from further duplicity and duress. The twilight of fascist culture ringed in his mind and it was an opportune time for him to change his political philosophy. He thought of himself as the aggressed and not the aggressor of the burdensome task. As Sam Izu once said, “it is a tragic world but a world without guilt for its tragic flow is not a flow of human nature.”
Abdiqasim was guilty of absolving himself of any guilt for the tragic flow of his actions . The myriad evidences of internal conflicts and the indifference to it, constitute glaring prima facie case for the bygone money. Besides, this change of him per se was blunderingly moral trajectory for a president widely perceived as trustworthy and religious pundit.
The article has stressed and demanded of where that $430M had gone. “Impoverished Somalia must clear $430 million of debt arrears to the World Bank and International Monetary Fund before the bank can start lending to the new government, a bank official said on Thursday,” it said. The press release from World Bank came in response to TFG's appeal to donors for $77.3 Million for its relocation and reconstruction budget.
Abdiqasim was indeed very silent and fastidious in his personal plots. In it, he receded to the practice of fascism kindly similar to that of former president Siad Barre, using nepotism, blandishments, intimidation, oppression, arbitrary killings, embezzlements, etc. In two years, Abdiqasim had built multitude militia factions loyal to his cause and transitional government, who mostly identified with his clan (Ceyr). The creation of Juba Valley Alliance (JVA) and powerful Islamic organizations ensued as part of ongoing secret deals with different interests and faces. Like the “manifest destiny doctrine of 19th century,” He sought land expansion by aggressively investing in his tribesmen and allies with abundance of money that afforded them the purchase of modern munitions mounted on hundreds of pick-up trucks. They easily conquered the coastal and riverine localities south of Mogadishu. How much misery and horror his militias factions have inflicted on the local people of these areas stay limitless.
Until now, these multitude militia factions hold hostages of the defenseless urban and agricultural societies that live in areas starting from Mogadishu south to Kismayu. They operate under the commanders of a previously unheard number of warlords, who in their daily pillaging, killing, raping, and extorting the locals, have carved out notorious names such as Indha Cade, Galaal, and etc. They have even begun to arrogate proprietary rights to their clans about the territories in which they have forcefully occupied and ruled under martial law.
Abdiqasim did not stop there. He confides to his so called strongmen to continue their systematic land expansion and indiscriminate eradication of local resistance so that they can continue milking the cow. It is a series of odd monstrous activity that turned the whole southern Somalia into complex intricate web of fiefdoms. With the soaring statistics of poverty and extreme mortality rate, these infamous activities will continue unless they are stopped by forceful measures and stern actions from IGAD.
The Warlords have reiterated so many times that they will never give up or compromise for their illegal occupations and the current status quo with or without the agreement they had entered and signed in Kenya. At times, they contrive excuses of wanton exclusion of some IGAD countries from frontline states particularly Ethiopia, accusing them of having ulterior motives. This position is plainly devoid of persuasive weight in terms of international law standards. Basically, the sovereignty of a nation is safeguarded from enemy invasion by International law. The U.N can wage a just war against the aggressor under the just causes of war doctrine that uphold one of the principles of U.N charter that if a country is invaded illegally, it should receive the protection of world wide support militarily and economically. Hence, the right of intention of Ethiopia's involvement in Somalia is blocked from violation of territorial integrity except enhancement of security and safety for the TFG.
Somalia needs military intervention at this circumstantial stage. Warlords can not seek a way out of this marriage contract they lastly vowed to uphold its pillars and to be liable for its proviso. Nor can they stipulate a condition for which the government should take alternatively. I believe the cause of what is generating this mayhem and wanton intentions is the initial recommendations given by the gullible International Crisis Group that Somali parliamentarians should always consider consensus and compromise over their pressing issues.
Rationally, consensus cast insoluble riddles on practical solutions. It also empowers the cunning plots of these warlords to sabotage the two-year long peace process. Therefore, this plaintive yearning for solution by ICG is unworkable and dispensable. The government should pursue general vote for every pressing agendas, which I think it is pursuing them effectively and efficiently, a just aim that would accomplish militia disarmament, tranquility, enforcement, and legitimate institutions for this exiled government. This step could also be a golden chance to improve itself from the ruthless remnants of Abdiqaasim's former TNG.
these forces should come in and this stupid embargo lifted. read this old article about abdiqasim who is now calling for jihad. is he still one of your allies with hirale and jva? they should have brought troops long time ago.
Truculent Abdiqasim and his Warlords in Somalia
By Ahmed Hersi
Al-Jazeerah, March 27 ,2005
I was surfing the net when I came across an article, titled, “Somalia must pay arrears to win new loans,” on March 25, which was addressed to the newly-established Transitional Federal Government of Somalia (TFG). It demands the payment of an outstanding $430 million that was given to the former transitional government (TNG) in the form of assistance. Thus, in order to win a new loan, the new government must pay it as a condition for another loan.
Suddenly, a wave of shock interrupted my thought process from its natural course, a normal course of recycling previous information that my brain had recorded and used for a period of five years. Initially, I was impressed by the said integrity of Abdiqasim as authority figure and democratically elected president, but I was proven entirely wrong of these pre-recorded conceptions. In fact, my country was never forgotten in terms of humanitarian and financial aid despite the ceaseless blight of Somalia. The TNG of Abdiqasim did not fail because of deficient trust and support from nationwide but deceptive schemes that betrayed its promises and which had led to the treacherous renegades. In this regard, Abdiqasim and his former interim government stand responsible for the onerous task that was left unfulfilled, along with the subsequent corruption and embezzlement, which sprang up after the government began to function in Somalia. Dr. Ali Khalif's defection, for instance, with an alleged sum of national funds was a noteworthy lead of the TNG's collapse and succeeding activities that eroded its resources.
Faced with uncertainties, Abdiqasim underestimated the effective reshuffling of his cabinet to rescue it from further duplicity and duress. The twilight of fascist culture ringed in his mind and it was an opportune time for him to change his political philosophy. He thought of himself as the aggressed and not the aggressor of the burdensome task. As Sam Izu once said, “it is a tragic world but a world without guilt for its tragic flow is not a flow of human nature.”
Abdiqasim was guilty of absolving himself of any guilt for the tragic flow of his actions . The myriad evidences of internal conflicts and the indifference to it, constitute glaring prima facie case for the bygone money. Besides, this change of him per se was blunderingly moral trajectory for a president widely perceived as trustworthy and religious pundit.
The article has stressed and demanded of where that $430M had gone. “Impoverished Somalia must clear $430 million of debt arrears to the World Bank and International Monetary Fund before the bank can start lending to the new government, a bank official said on Thursday,” it said. The press release from World Bank came in response to TFG's appeal to donors for $77.3 Million for its relocation and reconstruction budget.
Abdiqasim was indeed very silent and fastidious in his personal plots. In it, he receded to the practice of fascism kindly similar to that of former president Siad Barre, using nepotism, blandishments, intimidation, oppression, arbitrary killings, embezzlements, etc. In two years, Abdiqasim had built multitude militia factions loyal to his cause and transitional government, who mostly identified with his clan (Ceyr). The creation of Juba Valley Alliance (JVA) and powerful Islamic organizations ensued as part of ongoing secret deals with different interests and faces. Like the “manifest destiny doctrine of 19th century,” He sought land expansion by aggressively investing in his tribesmen and allies with abundance of money that afforded them the purchase of modern munitions mounted on hundreds of pick-up trucks. They easily conquered the coastal and riverine localities south of Mogadishu. How much misery and horror his militias factions have inflicted on the local people of these areas stay limitless.
Until now, these multitude militia factions hold hostages of the defenseless urban and agricultural societies that live in areas starting from Mogadishu south to Kismayu. They operate under the commanders of a previously unheard number of warlords, who in their daily pillaging, killing, raping, and extorting the locals, have carved out notorious names such as Indha Cade, Galaal, and etc. They have even begun to arrogate proprietary rights to their clans about the territories in which they have forcefully occupied and ruled under martial law.
Abdiqasim did not stop there. He confides to his so called strongmen to continue their systematic land expansion and indiscriminate eradication of local resistance so that they can continue milking the cow. It is a series of odd monstrous activity that turned the whole southern Somalia into complex intricate web of fiefdoms. With the soaring statistics of poverty and extreme mortality rate, these infamous activities will continue unless they are stopped by forceful measures and stern actions from IGAD.
The Warlords have reiterated so many times that they will never give up or compromise for their illegal occupations and the current status quo with or without the agreement they had entered and signed in Kenya. At times, they contrive excuses of wanton exclusion of some IGAD countries from frontline states particularly Ethiopia, accusing them of having ulterior motives. This position is plainly devoid of persuasive weight in terms of international law standards. Basically, the sovereignty of a nation is safeguarded from enemy invasion by International law. The U.N can wage a just war against the aggressor under the just causes of war doctrine that uphold one of the principles of U.N charter that if a country is invaded illegally, it should receive the protection of world wide support militarily and economically. Hence, the right of intention of Ethiopia's involvement in Somalia is blocked from violation of territorial integrity except enhancement of security and safety for the TFG.
Somalia needs military intervention at this circumstantial stage. Warlords can not seek a way out of this marriage contract they lastly vowed to uphold its pillars and to be liable for its proviso. Nor can they stipulate a condition for which the government should take alternatively. I believe the cause of what is generating this mayhem and wanton intentions is the initial recommendations given by the gullible International Crisis Group that Somali parliamentarians should always consider consensus and compromise over their pressing issues.
Rationally, consensus cast insoluble riddles on practical solutions. It also empowers the cunning plots of these warlords to sabotage the two-year long peace process. Therefore, this plaintive yearning for solution by ICG is unworkable and dispensable. The government should pursue general vote for every pressing agendas, which I think it is pursuing them effectively and efficiently, a just aim that would accomplish militia disarmament, tranquility, enforcement, and legitimate institutions for this exiled government. This step could also be a golden chance to improve itself from the ruthless remnants of Abdiqaasim's former TNG.
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musika man
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gedo
who will you side? gedo people called for ahmaaro help.
80 Ethiopian tanks move in as there are rumours Courts plan to wage war on Gedo?
Flood-hit Somalia prepares for fresh fighting
Wednesday, November 08, 2006
Mogadishu, Somalia (AFP) - Islamist gunmen and pro-government militia prepared for fresh fighting in southern Somalia on Wednesday, officials and witnesses said, as thousands fled feared clashes and the effect of floods.
The government-allied Juba Valley Alliance (JVA) said it was set to defend itself from advancing Islamist forces moving toward its stronghold in Gedo region, which suffered huge floods overnight when a river burst its banks.
"Islamic courts militias are preparing to wage an attack on us here," JVA commander Abdullahi Sheikh Fartag told AFP by phone from Bardheere, about 340km west of Mogadishu.
"We know everything, they are going to try to take this town and all other districts in Gedo region, but we are ready to repel them and this time defeat will not be simple," he said.
Witnesses said heavily-armed Islamist fighters had left Sakkow, 80km to the south, but were being slowed by flooded roads, inundated with waters from the Juba River.
"Everybody is talking about war in Bardheere," local businesseprson Ahmed Omar Barako told AFP. "The Islamist fighters in Sakkow have started advancing and that is why people are worried."
Islamist officials said, however, they did not plan to attack JVA positions, mainly due to the catastrophic flooding.
At least eight people, three of them children, drowned early Wednesday when the river overflowed after torrential rains, sweeping through villages in Gedo's Garbaharey division and sending thousands fleeing their homes.
"There is no reason to engage fighting at a time when people have been killed by heavy rains in the region," said Islamic commander Sheikh Yaqub Issak. "But we will not tolerate trouble-makers."
Source: AFP, Nov 8, 2006
who will you side? gedo people called for ahmaaro help.
80 Ethiopian tanks move in as there are rumours Courts plan to wage war on Gedo?
Flood-hit Somalia prepares for fresh fighting
Wednesday, November 08, 2006
Mogadishu, Somalia (AFP) - Islamist gunmen and pro-government militia prepared for fresh fighting in southern Somalia on Wednesday, officials and witnesses said, as thousands fled feared clashes and the effect of floods.
The government-allied Juba Valley Alliance (JVA) said it was set to defend itself from advancing Islamist forces moving toward its stronghold in Gedo region, which suffered huge floods overnight when a river burst its banks.
"Islamic courts militias are preparing to wage an attack on us here," JVA commander Abdullahi Sheikh Fartag told AFP by phone from Bardheere, about 340km west of Mogadishu.
"We know everything, they are going to try to take this town and all other districts in Gedo region, but we are ready to repel them and this time defeat will not be simple," he said.
Witnesses said heavily-armed Islamist fighters had left Sakkow, 80km to the south, but were being slowed by flooded roads, inundated with waters from the Juba River.
"Everybody is talking about war in Bardheere," local businesseprson Ahmed Omar Barako told AFP. "The Islamist fighters in Sakkow have started advancing and that is why people are worried."
Islamist officials said, however, they did not plan to attack JVA positions, mainly due to the catastrophic flooding.
At least eight people, three of them children, drowned early Wednesday when the river overflowed after torrential rains, sweeping through villages in Gedo's Garbaharey division and sending thousands fleeing their homes.
"There is no reason to engage fighting at a time when people have been killed by heavy rains in the region," said Islamic commander Sheikh Yaqub Issak. "But we will not tolerate trouble-makers."
Source: AFP, Nov 8, 2006
Let them come for they shall receive a welcome like never beforeÂ…..
There will only be 2 options for the fake TFG
Option1. There will be no occupiers and the puppets of Baidoa will see sense and finally do the honourable thing and put the interests of the people before their own.
Option 2. There will be an all out war and the puppets and their Ethiopian masters will be taught a lesson they will never forget.
There will only be 2 options for the fake TFG
Option1. There will be no occupiers and the puppets of Baidoa will see sense and finally do the honourable thing and put the interests of the people before their own.
Option 2. There will be an all out war and the puppets and their Ethiopian masters will be taught a lesson they will never forget.
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