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Criticizing Islamic Courts In Somalia?

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Criticizing Islamic Courts In Somalia?

Legendary Somali Cartoonist Amin Amir - Cursed and intimidated by UIC
Criticizing Islamic courts in Somalia! Can you dare it? In case you are courageous enough, be aware! You may receive numerous lashes if you do so in areas controlled by the courts. Otherwise, in the Diaspora or other regions of Somalia, you may receive “cursing” as happened to the legendary Somali cartoonist Amiin Amir. As a matter of fact, every objective individual is expected to be reluctant in criticizing Union of the Islamic Courts (UIC) that claim adherence to the Islamic principles. Particularly, criticizing UIC is pointless after they succeeded to eliminate notorious warlords supported by US, restored relative security in Mogadishu, opened international airport and sea port in Mogadishu; and called to defend motherland from Ethiopia. These UIC’s actions are very popular to the masses dismayed by the ineffective TFG in Baidoa. However, critics of the UIC see the issue from different perspectives and argue the following points.

Firstly, the objective of UIC is not to establish system of governance in Somalia. Sustainable system of governance for Somalia should be participatory, democratic, law abiding, and providing security and basic social services. Looking into the huge areas from under the rule of the UIC, only military administration organized on clan basis of “Islamic courts” is evident. This loose system which networks the courts dictates the type of governance in its own way and applies Shari’a law in accordance with the Ijtihad of its sheikh leader. Therefore, UIC do not necessarily work to realize national aspirations for reconstituting Somali state. Instead, they represent a revolting and angry Islam that is emotional and irrational, monopolizing political power illegitimately. Courts represent extraordinary force capable of devastation and ruination but unable to rebuild Somali state institutions.

Secondly, UIC is not wholeheartedly willing to reconcile with the TFG. All their programs and actions show that they are poised to crash the TFG by any means necessary. A clear proof is the outcome of the second Khartou m meeting between the TFG delegation and UIC in which UIC limited the agenda on security. Security for the UIC means no lifting of armÂ’s embargo and no need for foreign troops. This makes TFG susceptible and easy to prey by the stronger Islamic militia and pushes TFG to seek Ethiopian help. Courts refused so far to speak about political settlement and national reconciliation agenda at all. They consider these negotiations as tactical diversion and public relation endeavor while consolidating power.

Thirdly, UIC is divisive force in Somalia. They divide the Somali community into “good” and “bad” Muslims. Obviously, good Muslims are those who support UIC while others are the “bad” Muslims, worthy to be labeled as “hypocrites” or “non-believers”. The non- believer category should be dealt with as the enemy of the “Islamic revolution” deserving UICs wrath in its different forms and degrees. The TFG, the Puntland administration and the Somaliland, fall in this category. Also, this includes civil society orga nizations, Sufi brotherhoods, clan elders, politicians and every organized group in Somalia. A divisive force can never realize national agenda for statehood that requires mobilization of all people for a single purpose and direction.

Fourthly, UIC provokes conflict with the neighboring countries. Their superficial Islamic rhetoric causes panic in the Horn of Africa and their advocacy for Jihad against Ethiopia in particular while they are supported by Eritrea. This policy gives the impression that Eritrean-Ethiopian boarder war was transferred to Somalia and UIC is just instrumental for such Eritrean strategy. Critics of the UIC believe that it is imprudent undertaking to play regional politics in the Horn of Africa. They consider invoking historical conflict with Ethiopia at this time is too dangerous since the existence of the Republic of Somalia is in great risk.

Fifth, UIC resembles international terrorism in their slogans, banners and actions. Burned national Somali flag in Kismayo, a national symbol adored by all Somalis, had inflamed anger and dismay among Somali masses. UIC are very similar to the radical Islamic groups in Afghanistan, Algeria and Iraq. The fine touch of Al-QaÂ’ida is evident in its organizational structure, names and ways of training and waging battles. Their unambiguous affinity with Al-Qaida creates eventually greater setback for Somalia for years to come and attracts world attention to the Somali plight. It will eventually place Somalia in a stage for armed conflict in the Horn of Africa as well as a theatre for international war on global terrorism.

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Post by Nolol cusub »

"Islamic courts"



What makes them Islamic?

The opportunist radicals cannot explain why they use the name Islamic.

They know that any explanation regarding their Islamic label is futile. This explanation would involve a judgement on the movement' s Islamic morals something that does not exist.



THEY SAY DIINTAAN WADANKA KU XUKUMAYNAA!


In order for the movement to be taken seriously should not the movement become clean and explain how its political and social base came to possess their resource?




"Islamic" is political label that has nothing to do with real Islam.

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These are the best and the brightes of the ICU ladies and genlemen..


Aweis......> A military man under Siad Barre..only God knows how many he killed..

Indha Cadde....> A warlord and still looting pplo's farms, killed thousands of innocent somalis.

Turki...........> A Colonel under Siad Barre...killed many in hargeisa..and still hungr for more blood.



A/Qaim......> the godfather...we all know what he was and what he is..
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[quote="Nolol cusub"]"Islamic courts"



What makes them Islamic?[/quote]

Ever heard of Sharia????????????
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[quote="highclass"][quote="Nolol cusub"]"Islamic courts"



What makes them Islamic?[/quote]

Ever heard of Sharia????????????[/quote]

Ever heard of indhocadde and the slavery, robbery, rape and sexual exploitation of poor somalis in shabeela hoose? what sharia sanctions it? not islam, hutu-sharia?
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@hutu sharia... Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Post by Nolol cusub »

Morality comes first. Sharia follows



How come the movement starts with the adminstration of the law when it has not developed good morals, when the social and power base of Movement has unlawfully appropriated a large proportion of resources?


The relationship between power, law, and morality


Of the three, morality stands the supreme and it is independent. The law on the other hand may or may not follow morality. In the case suppressive regimes the law have little to do with morality and more to do with power.


So in the case of Mogadishu radicals, their claim to the right of adminstering the law is mainly drived from their accumulation of power. This right is not based on morality of Islam. If it were we would be dealing with a week lawful courts.

This is why clans that supported the Courts political Sharia are doing well without losing their accumulated wealth while those who saw the contradiction and decided to stay out of the courts political Sharia are marked as land to be expanded.




It is new hights for opportunism




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ICU is using the lure of religion to consolidate power. To reach that goal it has to desestablize peaceful communities, and hoodwink the gulible into beleiving in them. Nothing more, nothing less.
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What can I say? You guys have it all figured out already. It's a favorite old time tactic. You claim you are Islamic. Then anyone criticizing you is criticizing Islam, which is not allowed. Therefore, dissent = betraying Islam. Perfect technique to control a population. If you can pull it off and the population in unison doesn't say "Wait a minute here."
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[quote="Niya"]ICU is using the lure of religion to consolidate power. To reach that goal it has to desestablize peaceful communities, and hoodwink the gulible into beleiving in them. Nothing more, nothing less.[/quote]


The ICU have taken over or about to take over every where else except Somalinet.
Vent your anger and frustration here while it lasts.

The correct lure with kheyr in dunya and akhera to consolidate power is Islam. Put that into your gaal raac head.

Puntland peace is fake. They don't rule by sharia.
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[quote="Lacageylacag"]

Puntland peace is fake. They don't rule by sharia.[/quote]


There is not fake peace unless you rule by the gun and people are scared.

Actually, If someone commits a crime in puntland the courts go by Sharia, Even under Abdullahi Yusufs thats how the Puntland courts functioned. Wouldn't suprise me if it was the same thing in Somaliland.

As a supporter of ICU, I think they have chosen wrong tactics to reach out to people in Puntland and Somaliland, More needs to be done in South, A lot more.
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Post by Steeler [Crawler2] »

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"They don't rule by sharia. "

So if I am interpreting you correctly here, if somone rules by Shari'a, that is, enforces Shari'a law, then that ruler is legitimate. So the House of Saud is legitimate in your mind. Correct?

And those who don't rule by Shari'a are illegitimate, regardless of any other qualities. Correct?
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Yes Mad Mac, Sharia legitimises the rule and ruler.

System NOT based on Sharia is ILLEGITIMATE even with 100% popular vote.
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Post by Niya »

^^ Who is angry? I am stating the facts. ICU is nothing more than a qabill using religion to impose thier authority on other.
People of Puntland know Dahir Awies and al- itaahad very well. USE Relgion for political ends.

We say no to hutu-islam.
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Lac
Then I recommend that you move to Saudi Arabia post with. They speak the language of the Prophet there as an added benefit.
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