MOSLIIMA, SUICIDE IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MOSLIIMA, SUICIDE IS FORBIDDEN IN ISLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Exclamation SUICIDE Exclamation

1) God is our creator, he is the giver of life, and he alone has the right to end it. Suicide is forbidden in Islam; this sin is listed among the "enormities" in Reliance of the Traveller, a manual of Sharia in the tradition of Imam Shafi'i.

2) Those who committed suicide ...

to be roasted in a fire,

Do not kill yourselves, for Allah is compassionate towards you. Whoever does so, in transgression and wrongfully, We shall roast in a fire, and that is an easy matter for Allah. (an-Nisaa 4:29-30)

3) forbidden Paradise,

Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak:
The Prophet said, "Whoever intentionally swears falsely by a religion other than Islam, then he is what he has said, (e.g. if he says, 'If such thing is not true then I am a Jew,' he is really a Jew). And whoever commits suicide with piece of iron will be punished with the same piece of iron in the Hell Fire."
Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, "A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him." (Sahih Bukhari 2.445)

4) Will be punished in hell by whatever used for suicide,
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire." (Sahih Bukhari 2.446, 2.445)
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Rolling Eyes are you talking to me? do you have anything new to tell here? this isn't new to us,so stop mentioning my name,yeah
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MUSLIMAH CAN YOU GIVA A KISS TO A BROTHER WHO IS IN NEED?
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Post by Grant »

The words for "martyr" and "suicide bomber" are different in English. Are they the same word in Arabic?
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I imagine "suicide bomber" is a fairly new term in either language, bombs being a relatively new invention.
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Suicide bombings are not allowed anywhere except in Palestine where the enemy has too much power and it's very difficult to smuggle good enough weapons.
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How does difficulty make suicide acceptable?
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Post by LionHeart-112 »

Grant-Unlike Iraq or Afghanistan where guns, bombs and rpgs are easily available, in Palestine that's not the case. The jews do a pretty good job of stopping hte flow of weapons and money to the palestinian areas..

plus, they are not killing themselves out of despair or depression...they are sacrificing their lives to inflict damage to the enemy,...totally justified by all scholars...the case of palestine, i mean.
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Suicide attacks are acquiring deadly foothold in Afghanistan Suicide attacks increasing in Afghanistan
Weapon of choice for Taliban militants has killed hundreds
- Rahman Nullah, Chronicle Foreign Service
Sunday, November 26, 2006


(11-26) 04:00 PST Spin Boldak, Afghanistan -- For the past several months, Mullah Ezatullah has been training a half dozen would-be fedayeen, or "men of sacrifice," in a remote camp in the art of blowing themselves up.

"They are now ready to destroy the enemies of Islam and free Afghanistan from foreign invaders," said Ezatullah, who like many Afghans goes by one name.

Last year, suicide attacks were rare occurrences in Afghanistan. But they have grown deadlier and more frequent. NATO said that as of the middle of November, 97 suicide attacks have killed 217 people in the country this year. In September and October alone, nearly 100 people were killed in such attacks, including 18 outside the governor's compound in Helmand province, 16 near the U.S. Embassy and 12 outside the Interior Ministry in Kabul.

Gen. Abdul Manan Farahie, chief of the Interior Ministry's anti-terrorism department, has told reporters that most suicide attacks are planned in Pakistan and carried out by men who have little training.

"The Afghans doing the suicide attack, they were in the madrassas (religious schools) for five, six, seven months. They had no contact with their families, and they are under the psychological control of the mullahs," Farahie told the Associated Press. "If they had contact with their families, they would say, 'Don't do this.' "

The interview with Ezatullah, a 27-year-old Taliban commander, and his students occurred last month after local elders persuaded them to speak to a reporter. The meeting took place in a two-room mud house outside this southern town, one hour east of Kandahar near the Pakistan border, which was once a Taliban stronghold. Other than a few rifles propped against walls, the house was bare.

Ezatullah said his handpicked group consists of a Pakistani and five Afghans who range in age from 14 to 30 years. All are from poor or lower-middle-class families. The would-be bombers carried Kalashnikov rifles and rocket-propelled grenades loosely over their shoulders. Some kept their finger on the trigger as if protecting their young leader.

Ezatullah boasted that he has more volunteers than explosives and that some have been waiting for more than a year to put on a suicide vest.

Qari Asadullah, 22, the Pakistani, says he prefers suicide bombing over conventional warfare because it is "the most precise weapon we have." Asadullah has not seen his parents or his younger brother, a shopkeeper, for five years, and has no intention of going home.

"God will pave the way to paradise for me and my family once I become a martyr," he said. "We are convinced that this is a holy martyrdom that will gain the Almighty's happiness."

Their accounts could not be independently verified, but Afghan officials say that suicide bombers have become the Taliban's weapon of choice against NATO forces, government workers, state buildings, foreign diplomats and soldiers of the national army in an effort to destabilize the government of President Hamid Karzai.

In a recent interview by satellite phone with the Pakistan newspaper News International, Mullah Dadullah Khan, a Taliban commander in four southwestern provinces, boasted of training 500 suicide bombers and supplying each with his personal jannat ka parwana, or "admittance to paradise."

While some of this may be bluster, there is little doubt that the government is taking the issue of suicide bombers very seriously.

"We have increased surveillance on public gatherings and are closely watching to foil any terrorist activity," said Interior Ministry spokesman Zmaray Bashiri. In the past month, Afghan counterterrorism units have arrested 17 would-be bombers, according to Sayed Ansari, a spokesman for the national directorate of security. Joint NATO-Afghan operations have dismantled six suicide cells in the past three months, said NATO spokesman Maj. Luke Knittig.

Bashiri says the captured suspects are brainwashed by mullahs who show them films depicting "immoral acts" committed in Afghanistan since the fundamentalist Taliban were ousted in 2001. He said they are equipped by Arab, Chechen and Uzbek militants in Pakistan.

Authorities also said they had arrested Hafez Daud Shah, a 21-year-old Afghan caught carrying explosives in a waistcoat. Shah is one of the 2.5 million Afghan refugees in Pakistan who rotate through the ranks of the Taliban and other militant Islamic groups, officials say.

Ezatullah, who has piercing dark eyes and a thin beard, squatted on a fraying brown rug toying with his rifle while explaining how to detonate jackets filled with explosives. He instructed his men on how to pack cars and motorcycles with the right proportion of explosives, much of which remains from the 1979-89 war with the Soviet Union.

A simple attack, he told his men, requires between 11 and 26 pounds of explosives packed into a vest or jacket. A car bomb, however, needs as much as 110 pounds to plow into a NATO convoy. He also showed them how to fashion homemade bombs from gunpowder and gas cylinders.

Ezatullah prefers ordinary jackets bought in the local bazaar -- explosives are packed in pockets and between the linings and configured to explode with the press of a button on a narrow belt worn around the waist. Detonation can also be triggered by opening the belt.

He says his men are well trained and able to hit targets without causing civilian casualties. But he paused when asked if innocent bystanders are sometimes killed.

"We try our hardest to spare shedding innocent blood, but sometimes it is unavoidable. We try to limit this," he said.

Ezatullah claims his men carried out the Sept. 26 attack against the compound of Helmand provincial Gov. Mohammed Daoud Safi -- which killed 18 people, including several Muslim pilgrims seeking permits to travel to Mecca -- and the Sept. 30 attack on the Interior Ministry in Kabul that killed 12, including a woman and her child, and injured 42. The latter was the first suicide bomb aimed at Afghans. His claims could not be verified.

Ezatullah says he receives funds from poppy growers, other Taliban commanders and locals who give him zakat, the Islamic version of alms. Unlike Palestinian bombers, his men do not make videotapes that are played after they are dead and receive no money for their families.

"The fedayeen do not want to pollute their martyrdom with a financial reward," Ezatullah said.

Meanwhile, religious scholars are trying to deter new recruits by calling such actions jihalat, or ignorance.

"The Quran says 'and spend our substance in the cause of God, make not your own hands contribute to your destruction,' " said Sher Mohammad Ibrahimi, director of Kabul's mosques.

Ibrahimi has directed local religious leaders and imams across Afghanistan to preach that suicide is a sin under Shariah, or Islamic law.

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Post by Steeler [Crawler2] »

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NOT JUSTIFIED BY MOST ISLAMIC SCHOLARS. FACT. Suicide bombing is haram, period, end of discussion. Only fringe a$$wipes try to justify it.
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MAD MAC-Moron..lol..i'm talking about suicide bombing in Palestine. Almost all scholars approve of it in PALESTINE...Not anywhere else.

READ AND WEEP. MOTHERFU.CKER
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As regards your question, the late Azharite scholar and the head of the Sunni Egyptian Institutions in Egypt, Sheikh Fu'ad Mukhaymar, states the following:

"The view adopted by the majority of our contemporary Muslim scholars, describing as martyrs the Palestinians who blow themselves up in the occupied land in showing resistance against the aggression, is correct for the following reasons:

A person who blows himself up sacrifices his life for the survival of others. He dies for his homeland and his holy sites.

Those disarmed people are annihilated every day. Their houses and factories are destroyed and their farms are devastated. They stand with their hands tied before the tanks and armored vehicles of their enemies. The least they can offer is this sacrifice. A person who does this operation is considered by Ulama as a martyr especially as he sacrifices his life, not for a material gain, but for the sake of Allah.

The Palestinians lack the military support of the whole world. In this case, do they have to wait their doom or try their best to defend themselves?

The instances cited by scholars, in supporting their arguments, are also correct. History is full of many fascinating examples in which Muslims demonstrated an outstanding courage and strong spirit in fighting their enemies; they would sacrifice their lives for the sake of achieving their aim.

As regards the questionerÂ’s reference to the narration that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) disapproved the act of a fighter who killed himself, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) did this when he knew that the man killed himself out of despair and discontent. But on the issue at hand, a Palestinian knows well what he does and chooses it with his free will. ItÂ’s for this great sacrifice that he deserves martyrdom."



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Post by Steeler [Crawler2] »

"The Palestinians lack the military support of the whole world. In this case, do they have to wait their doom or try their best to defend themselves?"

There is of course course of action C - that is, cut a deal. Better late than never. Soon all the Palestinians in Gaza will be dead, and that will be the end of the debate about Gaza.
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Post by LionHeart-112 »

^^how does that pertain to the point of the article or the fu.cking debate?

Laughing Laughing Laughing No wonder u are in the military...u couldn't pass logic 101 with that brain.
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