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ONLY FOR THE TFG SUPPORTERS & ALLIES ONLY
This thread has been created only for the TFG allies & supporters.
Let us use this thread to discuss the TFG and its plans for the future.
Questions:
1. When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg ?
2. Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with ?
3. Power sharing formula - what should it consist of
4. How to strengthen the TFG support base ?
As I am NOT a moderator, I could not make this a sticky.
Let us use this thread to discuss the TFG and its plans for the future.
Questions:
1. When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg ?
2. Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with ?
3. Power sharing formula - what should it consist of
4. How to strengthen the TFG support base ?
As I am NOT a moderator, I could not make this a sticky.
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Ur comment ------ “When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg?”.
I think negotiating with ICU is almost impossible in the meantime. TFG tried 2 persuadably negotiate with ICU members, be4 the recent scuffle ensue in Bay and Bakool region. The outcomes of the dialogues weren’t adequate, 4 the reason that ICU rebuffed 2 abide by the laws and regulations howsoever, although it’s known that the designated government should have all the say on how the country will be controlled and governed. Its unfeasible 2 tolerate certain forces that suddenly appeared out of the blue moon, as an opposition political party/mutiny forces 2 lay down the law and boss around the elected leader, parliament and the civilians. Dulwlad Sidas Lu Xukumo Maba Jirto. Perceptibly, the recent events that came 2 pass in Xamar and Kismayo made them intoxicated with victory, overwhelmed with the support they earned, and blinded them 2 see the need 2 drop the conditions they set and steer clear of any clashes with Ethiopians, predominantly becuz the current government invited Ethiopian “training troops” 2 Somalia’s terrain.
Therefore, the most likely ways 2 keep them in a tight rein are 2 trounce them in the recent battles, and keep on torturing them till they comprehend “Force without justice is tyrannical”. At that moment, they’ll either flee away or settle on negotiating with TFG.
Ur comment ------ “Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with?”
Ibrahim Hassan Caddow, the head of foreign affairs department for the ICU. HeÂ’s an educated man, and represented the Islamic courts in its frequent discussions with different countries. (Asking them 2 rally-round ICU forces and pleading 4 armaments and funds)
Ur comment ------ “Power sharing formula - what should it consist of”
There was a possibility TFG will agree 2 share power, revises the constitution, and prepare the country through the transitional period 4 real and permanent government elected by the public, if the ICU negotiated with them, and managed 2 convincingly modify their mind. Unfortunately, ICU members killed their last hope, and reduced their chances 2 rubble, due 2 their ferocious attempts 2 march into Badhabo land.
ICU policy (which is based on self-regarding and naturally clannish intentions) will bring about bad outcomes, smooth the progress 4 their movement 2 go 2 wrack and ruin and be the reason of their self-failure.
Ur comment ------ “How to strengthen the TFG support base?”
TFG can easily strength their support base through broadcasting campaigns, and pointing the finger @ ICU. They should hold them accountable 4 all tribulations that arose after their formations, and put in plain words how ICU wrecked serene territories conditions (Kismayo as an example). Furthermore, criticize ICU policy, and draw attention 2 all their allies. (As the report below illustrates).....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Court_Union
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I think negotiating with ICU is almost impossible in the meantime. TFG tried 2 persuadably negotiate with ICU members, be4 the recent scuffle ensue in Bay and Bakool region. The outcomes of the dialogues weren’t adequate, 4 the reason that ICU rebuffed 2 abide by the laws and regulations howsoever, although it’s known that the designated government should have all the say on how the country will be controlled and governed. Its unfeasible 2 tolerate certain forces that suddenly appeared out of the blue moon, as an opposition political party/mutiny forces 2 lay down the law and boss around the elected leader, parliament and the civilians. Dulwlad Sidas Lu Xukumo Maba Jirto. Perceptibly, the recent events that came 2 pass in Xamar and Kismayo made them intoxicated with victory, overwhelmed with the support they earned, and blinded them 2 see the need 2 drop the conditions they set and steer clear of any clashes with Ethiopians, predominantly becuz the current government invited Ethiopian “training troops” 2 Somalia’s terrain.
Therefore, the most likely ways 2 keep them in a tight rein are 2 trounce them in the recent battles, and keep on torturing them till they comprehend “Force without justice is tyrannical”. At that moment, they’ll either flee away or settle on negotiating with TFG.
Ur comment ------ “Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with?”
Ibrahim Hassan Caddow, the head of foreign affairs department for the ICU. HeÂ’s an educated man, and represented the Islamic courts in its frequent discussions with different countries. (Asking them 2 rally-round ICU forces and pleading 4 armaments and funds)
Ur comment ------ “Power sharing formula - what should it consist of”
There was a possibility TFG will agree 2 share power, revises the constitution, and prepare the country through the transitional period 4 real and permanent government elected by the public, if the ICU negotiated with them, and managed 2 convincingly modify their mind. Unfortunately, ICU members killed their last hope, and reduced their chances 2 rubble, due 2 their ferocious attempts 2 march into Badhabo land.
ICU policy (which is based on self-regarding and naturally clannish intentions) will bring about bad outcomes, smooth the progress 4 their movement 2 go 2 wrack and ruin and be the reason of their self-failure.
Ur comment ------ “How to strengthen the TFG support base?”
TFG can easily strength their support base through broadcasting campaigns, and pointing the finger @ ICU. They should hold them accountable 4 all tribulations that arose after their formations, and put in plain words how ICU wrecked serene territories conditions (Kismayo as an example). Furthermore, criticize ICU policy, and draw attention 2 all their allies. (As the report below illustrates).....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Court_Union
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Re: ONLY FOR THE TFG SUPPORTERS & ALLIES ONLY
[quote="AbdiWahab252"] As I am NOT a moderator, I could not make this a sticky.[/quote]
at this not being a sticky!
BAl uu kaadii, arrinta mel ha uudhacdee.

BAl uu kaadii, arrinta mel ha uudhacdee.
Questions:
1. When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg ?
2. Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with ?
3. Power sharing formula - what should it consist of
4. How to strengthen the TFG support base ?
1. Immediately
2. Any and all
3. None at the moment. They have no legitimacy
4. Kick the Ethiopians out and negotiate with the Wadaads.
1. When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg ?
2. Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with ?
3. Power sharing formula - what should it consist of
4. How to strengthen the TFG support base ?
1. Immediately
2. Any and all
3. None at the moment. They have no legitimacy
4. Kick the Ethiopians out and negotiate with the Wadaads.
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Questions:
1. When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg ?
a) When the wadaad ku sheeg realize that they should weed out the corrupt elements in there ranks.
2. Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with ?
Sheik Shariif Ahmed ONLY LEGITIMATE SHEIK IN THERE TOP 3 positions.
3. Power sharing formula - what should it consist of
TBD. But the ICU should think about forming an opposition group in a parliament one day.
4. How to strengthen the TFG support base ?
Propogate your strengths and your enemies weaknesses. Mass media ala Radio, T.v and print.
1. When should the TFG begin negotiations with the Wadaad Isku Sheeg ?
a) When the wadaad ku sheeg realize that they should weed out the corrupt elements in there ranks.
2. Who among the Wadaad Isku Sheeg would be the most logical person to negotiate with ?
Sheik Shariif Ahmed ONLY LEGITIMATE SHEIK IN THERE TOP 3 positions.
3. Power sharing formula - what should it consist of
TBD. But the ICU should think about forming an opposition group in a parliament one day.
4. How to strengthen the TFG support base ?
Propogate your strengths and your enemies weaknesses. Mass media ala Radio, T.v and print.
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[quote="Wise-Man"]^^^ are you saying, Abdi Bile aka Bare Hiiraale Kismaayo lagu soo celiyaa..?
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wise-ass-man
allaahu akbar, allaahu akbar, allaahu akbar. finally the evil hutu-courts are losing.
soon shabeelle hoose will be free and the oppressed people will rejoice victory and help from allah. your hutu prophets indhocadde and aweis will be sent to the hague for war crimes.
dont send your sisters for a suicide mission fatboy, go and join yourself if you believe the hutu-courts.
i support anyone who fights against the hutu-courts. no, they should never negotiate with the dajaal hutu-courts.

wise-ass-man
allaahu akbar, allaahu akbar, allaahu akbar. finally the evil hutu-courts are losing.
soon shabeelle hoose will be free and the oppressed people will rejoice victory and help from allah. your hutu prophets indhocadde and aweis will be sent to the hague for war crimes.
dont send your sisters for a suicide mission fatboy, go and join yourself if you believe the hutu-courts.
i support anyone who fights against the hutu-courts. no, they should never negotiate with the dajaal hutu-courts.
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Xoogsade
Newskan ila read-garee brother.
"Ciidamada dawlada iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka oo afartii maalmood ee uu dagaalku socday iska barbar dagaallamayay ayaa Itoobiyaanku waxay go’aansadeen in ay keligooda hogaamiyaan dagaalka ka dib markii ay saluugeen qaabka ay dagaalka u hagayaan saarkiiisha dawlada u hogaamisa dagaalka ka socda gobolka Baay ee kala ah: Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga dawlada Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) iyo Taliyaha Guutada Koowaad ee ciidanka dawlada Gaashaanle Sare Cabdirisaaq Maxamuud Yuusuf “Afgaduud ”.

Newskan ila read-garee brother.
"Ciidamada dawlada iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka oo afartii maalmood ee uu dagaalku socday iska barbar dagaallamayay ayaa Itoobiyaanku waxay go’aansadeen in ay keligooda hogaamiyaan dagaalka ka dib markii ay saluugeen qaabka ay dagaalka u hagayaan saarkiiisha dawlada u hogaamisa dagaalka ka socda gobolka Baay ee kala ah: Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga dawlada Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) iyo Taliyaha Guutada Koowaad ee ciidanka dawlada Gaashaanle Sare Cabdirisaaq Maxamuud Yuusuf “Afgaduud ”.


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[quote="Wise-Man"]Xoogsade
Newskan ila read-garee brother.
"Ciidamada dawlada iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka oo afartii maalmood ee uu dagaalku socday iska barbar dagaallamayay ayaa Itoobiyaanku waxay go’aansadeen in ay keligooda hogaamiyaan dagaalka ka dib markii ay saluugeen qaabka ay dagaalka u hagayaan saarkiiisha dawlada u hogaamisa dagaalka ka socda gobolka Baay ee kala ah: Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga dawlada Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) iyo Taliyaha Guutada Koowaad ee ciidanka dawlada Gaashaanle Sare Cabdirisaaq Maxamuud Yuusuf “Afgaduud ”.
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Wiseman, why didn't you mention the source. If anyone is wondering, it is from the infamous Idamaale.
Wiseman, since when did you enrol in ICU-propaganda maker service.
Newskan ila read-garee brother.
"Ciidamada dawlada iyo kuwa Itoobiyaanka oo afartii maalmood ee uu dagaalku socday iska barbar dagaallamayay ayaa Itoobiyaanku waxay go’aansadeen in ay keligooda hogaamiyaan dagaalka ka dib markii ay saluugeen qaabka ay dagaalka u hagayaan saarkiiisha dawlada u hogaamisa dagaalka ka socda gobolka Baay ee kala ah: Wasiirka Gaashaandhiga dawlada Barre Aadan Shire (Hiiraale) iyo Taliyaha Guutada Koowaad ee ciidanka dawlada Gaashaanle Sare Cabdirisaaq Maxamuud Yuusuf “Afgaduud ”.


Wiseman, why didn't you mention the source. If anyone is wondering, it is from the infamous Idamaale.
Wiseman, since when did you enrol in ICU-propaganda maker service.
Jefrey, and Xoogsade,
http://baidoa.wordpress.com/
Enjoy reading it guys, and please, advice him (Hiiraale) not to disgrace himself again. I just feel sorry for him, not that i have something against him. I still believe that he is a wonderful Somali man, but he just did not like the way Islamic Courts treated him.
http://baidoa.wordpress.com/
Enjoy reading it guys, and please, advice him (Hiiraale) not to disgrace himself again. I just feel sorry for him, not that i have something against him. I still believe that he is a wonderful Somali man, but he just did not like the way Islamic Courts treated him.
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wise-man
i didn't ask for a link, that changes nothing. i can get you a somali website that says "indhacade iyo dahir aweys oo xamar ka cararay" if you'd like.
the thing is the people that run most somali websites don't know the first thing about journalism. maalin kasta markeey soo kacaan waxeey soo qoreen sideey jeclaan lahaayeen ineey wax udhacaan.
its like Qaadisiya, Shabelle, Hornafrik, Godey and a few others saying the ICU killed over 200 ehtiopian troops when everyone (including the UN and the foreign press that have no bias towards either side) is saying the ICU suffered humiliating losses ranging in the hundreds.
i didn't ask for a link, that changes nothing. i can get you a somali website that says "indhacade iyo dahir aweys oo xamar ka cararay" if you'd like.
the thing is the people that run most somali websites don't know the first thing about journalism. maalin kasta markeey soo kacaan waxeey soo qoreen sideey jeclaan lahaayeen ineey wax udhacaan.
its like Qaadisiya, Shabelle, Hornafrik, Godey and a few others saying the ICU killed over 200 ehtiopian troops when everyone (including the UN and the foreign press that have no bias towards either side) is saying the ICU suffered humiliating losses ranging in the hundreds.
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