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Has anyone read this book, "The Invention of Somalia" by the late professor of UCLA Ali Jimcaale.

Although he does not write fairly of the Somali history, he highlights clan lineages and how they are related.


Harti tribe, he says are even younger than Ogadeen in the lineage, the line of descendents to Daarood.


Ogaden Absame Kuumade Kablalax(Mohamed) Daarood(Cabdirxam) Ismaciil.


Harti Hantaale Amtale Koonbe Kablalax


In this Abtirsiinyo, Harti is by far the grandson of Ogaaden. I mean Ogaden was the uncle of Harti Daarood , but being more numerous and civilized, Harti is not considered as that Deep .


Cali Sharmaake, a Majerrteen poet said something after an Ogaadeen man who was suitor to Cali Kenadiid's daughter, Cawrala Cali Kenadiid. The Ogaden elders was accompanied by gluttonous man Halacdheere.

Cali Sharmaake(Harti)
Gobonimo iney hodon tahey oo Hibo na loo siiyey
Waxaan Nahey raggii Halacdhere beryaha hayn jirey


Qamaan bulxan responded and said,(Ogaadeen)

Halkaad Cali Sharmaarkow na tidhi, waa huf iyo beene
Haarraanka iyo faanku waa, haayir kala dheere
Waa heli karaa baad na tidhi ,waana hibataaye
Gobanimo hadday hiba tahay, oo hore laguu siiyey
Hah maxaad u tidhi wiil martiya, hilib intaad siisay



Ali Dhuux (Harti)


Hagaga ha daynine Qamaan hor Alle ruuxaaga
Halac oo hir dheer le'eg hadduu hogob ka soo muuqdo
Idinkoo la haybihiba waa wada habaartaane
Harti maxaad ku geli Eebahay horror hadduu keenay



Sayid Mohamed, disturbed by the wisdom of Harti poets, responded in support of his Ogadeen.

Sayid Mohamed (Ogaadeen)

Hidyaa wadatay wiilkii Hadduu hilinka soo qaaday
HUWAN muu u kaco kuma qadeen hodon qabeenkiiye
Hartigaba wax badan baa ku nool hilib ugaadheede
Kol uu Hiirad oo kale noqduu ibilka haaneedo
Bal maaa Hobya u dhigay arladu kal hoyaad roone
Nin hamuunta kaa bi'inayaa , lagu haddoomaaye
Mar hadduu hadaadumo xarrago,haybaded ma leh
Haadaa-qabiil nimaan ahayn, hibo miyuu dhiibi

So you admit your harti............

I am Weyteen Absame, how many times should I tell you this.

Last edited by ABSAME' on Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:38 pm; edited 1 time in total



you spoke too soon.............

I edited grammar structure.

Say something about the poems. Don't be focused of who I am

grammar structure.......hmm there's a whole sentence missing in action!


but overall, good poem.

I dont't care but I try to write readable sentences at least. I am not like Cilmiile

'mean Ogaden was the uncle of Harti Daarood , but being more numerous and civilized, Harti is not considered as that Deep'

What does this mean? Hartis number more than Ogadeen?

No it means hartis have more class and are civilize then ogaadeen.

[quote="Qaarxiye"]No it means hartis have more class and are civilize then ogaadeen. [/quote]

"and are civilize then ogaadeen"

dont make sense

[quote="Qaarxiye"]No it means hartis have more class and are civilize then ogaadeen. [/quote]



For the first time I agree with you.

For your info
Ogaden geneology gose from
Ogadenbin**bin Barwaaq binAbsame.

the reason why Ogaden and Harti were equalled is due to the fact that
Ogaden had all the qualities found in Harti as a unit.
Harti bravery Dhulbahante
Harti Statemasnhip/wealth and land Majerteen.
Harti etc

[quote]Ogadenbin**bin Barwaaq binAbsame[/quote]

Absame, when you drop the absame name dude. You are not fooling anyone anymore. You post from the same IP adress as Ducaale.

[quote="Ugaas Diini"]Absame, when you drop the absame name dude. You are not fooling anyone anymore. You post from the same IP adress as Ducaale.[/quote]






Wallahi he must be SHOCKED!!


He has three usernames here...............Absame, Ducaale and the last one ( he knows that I know )