Mad Mac, do you recognize...

[biko]

that head siting on the pavement on its on?

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/america ... eaded4.jpg

it looks surprised as well as confused.

[Aiman]

Was that in Fallujah

[biko]

who cares? they yankees, aint that the important thing?

[Aiman]

^^^

You were most definitely right thanks for sharing the link with us I'm sure Mad Mac will sincerely appreciate it as I did.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Everytime Muslims behave like this, it reminds me that Islam is a social-political pact that would not pass muster in a termite mound. If you want to rejoice about beheading some poor slob, go ahead. It says more about you than anything you could print.

[biko]

it just says that political islam is coming your way and nothing you, america nor anyone else can do about it.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Political Islam is finished. Take a look at Somalia and see what happens when someone goes that direction. We hold the cards, and nothing is going to change that. Piss us off too much, and watch your cities disappear.

Pax Americana rules. And there are three kufrs on the planet for every Muslim. And the kufrs are not going to tolerate any more shit from the Muslims.

[biko]

[quote="MAD MAC"]Political Islam is finished. Take a look at Somalia and see what happens when someone goes that direction. We hold the cards, and nothing is going to change that. Piss us off too much, and watch your cities disappear.
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somalia is a bad example to use. but in any case, your fighting a fruitless war...

muslims are akin to a force of nature and it didnt even gather momentum.

Pax Americana rules. And there are three kufrs on the planet for every Muslim. And the kufrs are not going to tolerate any more shit from the Muslims.[/quote]
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enjoy while it last, cos just like everything in life and nature; it will soon have to shift to the other side. and that will be it.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Biko
That's what you're not getting. Islam had it's day. It has come and gone. There was the Roman empire, there was the Persian empire. The Mongols. The Islamic empire.......they've all gone. Now it is the time of Pax Americana to rule. And when this empire wanes (and you are correct, it will) it is not going to be replaced by Islam. Rather, we are going to see the emergence of regional powers. India will dominate the sub-continent. China will dominate East Asia. Brazil and America will dominate south and central America. South Africal, Nigeria and possibly Ethiopia (if it doesn't fracture) will dominate sub-Saharan Africa.

The Middle East is going to fall into nothing in about 50 years. Why? The oil is going to run out. The rest of the world is going to seek (because of necessity, the mother of all inventions) alternative fuel supplies. The Middle East has a population too large to sustain, and trying to sustain it will consume all of its resources. There just isn't enough water there. The Muslims of Southeast Asia will distance themselves from the Arabs because the Arabs will be a resource drain. The heart of the Islamic world will be a dusty backwater again.

This is where the future will go, slowly. A great new Islamic empire is not in the cards. What you are witnessing is the death spasms of political Islam. And that is a good thing for everyone, even you. You just don't recognize it.

[biko]

ever heard the expresion, 'God works in mysterious ways'?

you might be able to predict when the oil will run out, and how long the next civil war in the midles east will go on and how many more poor countries will be sunctioned...but one thing you can never predict is whats in store for the kafurs?

you can never be able to predict the faiths that awaits america, with all the crystal balls in the world nor with kabala...

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Biko
AND your reasoning here, is the heart of why Muslims are such poor predictors of events. You believe that Islamic dominance is manifest destiny. That is why you ignore facts that don't fit into your world view.

Let me give you some recent examples of this phenomenon right heré on the net. Prior to the US invasion of Afghanistan, I predicted a quick fall of the Taliban. That Kabul would go quickly, Khandahar would not hold out long. My rationale was simple. The Taliban was a Pashtun based movement. It had a lot of enemies in the other tribes, which it was essentially occupying. These tribal movements had rag tag militias oppossing he Taliban which did not have sufficient resourcing to make them a credible threat. But when US Spec Ops troops, combined with US air power and an infusion of funding and weapons and supply deliveries for those militias were brought in, the Taliban predicatably folded like a house of cards, it's leadership that survived quickly moving to Pashtun Waziristan. Here, on the net, I heard constantly, "You can not defeat the Taliban. They defeated the Russians, they will defeat you. IF Allah wills it, your smart bombs will miss." This kind of nonsense was spouted all of the time. "Kabul will never fall. Allah will not allow the forces of Bhadil to defeat the forces of haq...." and so forth. The reason that people here made this arguments, is because this is the only argument that fits their world view.

When the TFG was in confrontation with the ICU, I warned everyone here that if Ethiopia gets involved, it will tip the balance of power. The ICU will lose everything. How many people here told me I was full of it. How many times did I hear the "Allah is the best of planners" nonsense? But rationale, calculating, analytical thought is not acceptable to their world view. In the world view of retrenched Muslims, Islamic anything always has to emerge victorious from any conflict with non-Muslims. And that is why so often you see this rationlizing. First victory is predicted. When that victory fails to materialize, and the Allah doesn't will the bombs to miss, then ultimate victory is predicted. Some vague, long term Islamic victory? The rationale for this is not based on any kind of analytical thought. Rather it is based upon a notion that Islam has to prevail because Mohammed said so. So Muslims can not conduct any analysis that comes to any conclusion other than Islam will prevail. That is why I am free to think without constraint, but you are not.