Why has Somalia been a failed state?

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:36 am

For us outsiders (sijuis, caddans) here, I cannot explain why somalia had no gov't for the last 17 yrs?.

Is it down to Clan politics?????????????? AND NOTHING ELSE?

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:39 am

more importantly, why has somaliland managed to stand on its own two feet but the rest of somalia dint?

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:44 am

[quote="biko"]more importantly, why has somaliland managed to stand on its own two feet but the rest of somalia dint?[/quote]

Puntland has been a 'success'.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:45 am

well there you go.

not all of somalia is inhabited by savages.

but then again, putlanders are with the zionist TFG.

Lord Diplock · Post by **Lord Diplock** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:56 am

[quote="biko"]well there you go.

not all of somalia is inhabited by savages.

but then again, putlanders are with the zionist TFG.[/quote]

Laughing

take it easy bro.

Steeler [Crawler2] · Post by **Steeler [Crawler2]** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:59 am

Probably because Somalis are a$$oles.

Karbaash_killa · Post by **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 12:01 pm

Biko

Why Somalia was troubled and Somaliland succesful?

If i had to use one word to describe our problems, it would be

"MJ" Laughing

THE ELEMENT · Post by **THE ELEMENT** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:14 pm

Â“Why Somalia had no gov't for the last 17 yrsÂ”

Why? Because of people like Biko who canÂ’t seem to let go of the past and who are willing to blur every little light at the end of the tunnel so that their little enclave Waqooyi Galbeed could stand to gain from the plight of the masses in the south of the country, this is one side.

...The other, however, is our former warlord supporters who are now hell-bent on supporting the ICU which is lead by none other than former warlords like Indha-Cadde and Co. because they too canÂ’t seem to let go of the past. Surely, one think that unites them all is the idea of the Ethiopian intervention (the other being the lifting of the UN Arm embargo) since this idea never crossed their mind, but than again their the oneÂ’s that declared Jihad on Ethiopia which was stupid of them, nevertheless, this aided the TFG because without the Ethiopian intervention to counterbalance the foreign support the radical Islamists were receiving I doubt the TFG would have been as successful as it is today.

Either way their f@cket now since we have a legitimated government on our hand that is willing to ride this foreign US financed force till it commands the power it needs to lead this leaderless nation...As for me though, I wouldnÂ’t have liked it any other way, Insha Allah this government will work for it looks promising already.

biko · Post by **biko** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:15 pm

[quote="Karbaash_killa"]Biko

Why Somalia was troubled and Somaliland succesful?

If i had to use one word to describe our problems, it would be

"MJ" Laughing

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but hawiye didnt help neither Laughing

Karbaash_killa · Post by **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:08 pm

Hawiye did help but their power hungry warlords made it difficult !

Karbaash_killa · Post by **Karbaash_killa** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:10 pm

Element

I'm a supporter of Amiirka Somalia Sheikh Shariif not a warlord how ever i believe that if a warlords change his badways everyone deserves a chance !

maria from west side · Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:11 pm

@ Biko

THE ELEMENT · Post by **THE ELEMENT** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:18 pm

Karbaash_killa, Amiirka Somalia Sheikh Shariif is undoubtedly a great man a great Sheikh for that matter and I still urge the TFG to safe him but rid us of the likes of Indha-cadde and Co. thatÂ’s all walaal.

...Am sure Somalia has suffered a lot and enough is enough somalia

fagash_killer · Post by **fagash_killer** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:10 pm

[quote="THE ELEMENT"]Karbaash_killa, Amiirka Somalia Sheikh Shariif is undoubtedly a great man a great Sheikh for that matter and I still urge the TFG to safe him but rid us of the likes of Indha-cadde and Co. thatÂ’s all walaal.

...Am sure Somalia has suffered a lot and enough is enough somalia

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im glad that tfg supporters realised that.and i hope that courts supporters realise this fact to

dhuusa_deer · Post by **dhuusa_deer** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:18 pm

Somalia is not a failed state. It was a failed state (barre's government) but not anymore. THis so called failed Somali state sees it's inhabitants enjoying greater personal freedom, healthcare services, education, economic oppurtunities (and equality) than many 3rd world nations considered "stable" and having "functioning government". What gives?