QABYALAD: THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT?

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:03 pm

Dowlad implied few days ago that young Somalis who grew up in the diaspora are often more qabilist or want to appear so because they want to associate with back home and Qabyalad seems one big bad-ass and powerful identity clasp to hold on to. They know it is not nice but they think it is somehow a `cool' way of feeling `home'.

I found the thought intriguing, saddening and hilarious at the same time. Hilarious because it contrasted with how and my whole generation growing up in the 70s and 80s saw it. We associated it with old people and therefore `uncoolness' and as we grew up and formed poltical and social views as utterly primitive and inimical to modern youth, culture and national aspirations. And this was not just a show: none of us knew or cared about or thought about the clans of our classmates. We knew who was `Qaldaan' and who was `Wallaweyn' in my Burao school and later in my Mog one but it was just regional fun and hilarity. The Qabiil concept simply did not exist.

What I later discovered is how old Somalis saw it before my urban generation grew up. It confirmed some of our fears. It was certainly savage and intricately rudderless and totally lacking in principles and benchmarks but it had two sides which we didnt appreciate: dynamism and noble savagery.

Dynamism because the tribes and clans were never hostile or friendly to each other in any discernible patterns; and noble savage because it had almost Gandhian elements of forgiveness and moving on from hostility to friendship in time frames and processes that will put Archbishop Desmond Tutu's Truth and Reconciliation stuff to shame.

The tribes killed each other today literally over nothing; hate each other with unbelievable passion; meet up under under a tree, exchange gifts of girls and camels and become firm friends all literally within weeks.

One thing it never had and cannot have is `coolness'. Qabilism is still a bore. So the young ones need to get a life.

DawladSade · Post by **DawladSade** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:06 pm

this is what i wrote and why you WONT understand us Laughing

Not boring and perverted Galol, American/European youth wanting and finding a connection with their homeland.

The difference was touching a girl's hands might have been "reer magaal" in your times or wearing bell-bottoms for the first time, but we ARE "reer magaal" in the international sense. Somali culture and our homeland is the forbidden fruit just like america/europe might have seemed to an old goat like you.

We wish to taste the forbidden fruit and Qabiil is the first bite of it. But what can an old Dog know about that whose whole ideo of reer magaalnimo is running away from his culture and what makes him unique in this world (no insult). Razz

musika man · Post by **musika man** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:06 pm

^^^^

qaldaan man respond to my somalilander topic.

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:09 pm

Dowlad

Are you suggesting I missed your point ot I didnt address it or both?

DawladSade · Post by **DawladSade** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:10 pm

[quote="Galol"]Dowlad

Are you suggesting I missed your point ot I didnt address it or both?[/quote]

Its not addressed to mask your analysis but your side opinions. Very Happy

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:11 pm

Wallaweyn Musik

Which thread?

musika man · Post by **musika man** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:16 pm

[quote="Galol"]Wallaweyn Musik

Which thread?[/quote]

am shaanshi somali and not a lama goodleey. wallanweeyn, qaldaan are all lama goodleeys. the thread is titled somalilanders, if not deleted by the terrorist moderator.

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:17 pm

Dowlad

Would that be my `Irir' opinions by any chance? Do you know how many laughs you gave me and my friends? we love it!

Sad to see you go Kombo boy.

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:28 pm

Muska

"Shaanshi"

We are mates then. I love Shaanshi: they never robbed my camels or my properties in Mog. The Kombos robbed loads of my camels and Kabo Shagles still live in my properties in Mog.

I will check your thread. It is pro or anti us?

karkaar · Post by **karkaar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:28 pm

Old school people walked extra miles to look kewl and upto date back home in somalia even when modern was almost non existing in those days... But in contrast young people walk that same extra mile to feel home and connected to their roots and qabiil is one of the few things left of that belonging..

Lil_Cutie.. · Post by **Lil_Cutie..** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:34 pm

Its true Qabil has taken a different outlook from before. Its exaggerated beyond belief and ofcourse lost its essence, its meaning. Its now become a tool for feral behaviou, dangerous and lethal..

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:37 pm

"and qabiil is one of the few things left of that belonging.. "

Karkaar

This is what I meant by "saddening".

I wish they could connect with something cooler like the music or the Gabay or the coolest dances in the world or our beautiful beaches and scenary or our history or nationalism or secular politics(not Islamist ones: I would rather they did Qabiil: at least it is Somali no matter how vicious)

Why did they pick the two possibly worst things they can connect to: Qabilism and Islamism?

musika man · Post by **musika man** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:39 pm

[quote="Lil_Cutie.."]Its true Qabil has taken a different outlook from before. Its exaggerated beyond belief and ofcourse lost its essence, its meaning. Its now become a tool for feral behaviou, dangerous and lethal..[/quote]

lil

did u know tribal stuff is not something we benadiri or merkaawi people think or talk about. it is a nomadic somali culture shared by hawiye, darod, isaq's and other lama goodley tribes? a somali is a somali to us. my best friend is a somali from jigjiga and surprisingly an ogaden guy.

galol

check the topic, it is still there and am waiting your response.

Demure · Post by **Demure** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:54 pm

I think too much qabiil talk is reer baadiyo iyo nus. The other night me and my little brother went to a dinner with my uncle to this Somali family's house. After 2 hours of Xaalada Somaaliya iyo qabiil this and qabiil that, Labadeena we were about ready to call a cab, we were bored out of our minds.

My husband to be better scrub all qabiil from his memory.

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:27 pm

Demure

How can you say that? What is more sexy than discussing with your husband just how many cows he robbed that day from the dastardly clan next door and how he shot few of the enemy?