SOMALI MINORITIES: WHO DO THEY SUPPORT?

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:18 pm

I think one hallmark of a good government is how much it receives from its ethnic, religious, or social minority groups. Provided of course that these minority groups are not in power themselves which sometimes happens in dictatorships( The Alawis in Syria today or the Kakwas in Uganda during Idi Amin are good examples)

In Somalia by minorities I mean those outside the three big `trouble-makers: Hawiye, Isaq and Darrod. I do hope that Rahans do not feel insulted because although they are not a `minority' numerically or socially they were nonetheless not part of the `shaking and moving' of the place.

The most significant minority group by a long shot are the Reer xamars and I mean this in the broadest sense: Bravanese, Mercans, Arabsomalis, gibilcads, ashrafs, tunnis, Bajuns etc. These are the people who built the great cities of Somalia and their civilisations. Mogadishu was not built by Hawiye and Daarood, it was destroyed by them. That fact is beyond any historical argument.

The contribution the Southern Somali minorities made to Somaliness is beyond architecture and trade and crafts and social sophistication. It is in politics and the arts too. Benadiri Music is the only real rival to Northern music in terms of volume and depth and quality. Some of the best painters and other artists(people know Amin Camir today but he comes from a long heritage) were either Benadiris or Mercans like Caamir.

And of course they built and made everything of true cultural value craft from fashions and shoes and accesseries to Mogadishu's ancient Jewellery-making and trading markets.

No need in saying how much they contributed to the national cuisine: All Daaroods and Isaqs and Hawiyes ate was slightly boiled camel meat washed down with urine tainted camel milk before they came to towns as late as 19th Century.

So who the minorities support matters a great deal because it is a litmus test of `lack' of clannism.

And dont bore me with individulaism I know you can have the odd crazed Wahhabist Reer Xamar who likes Aweys and wants Abdullahi Yusuf dead and not of liver failure. But I mean the minority masses. Who do you think they support?

biko · Post by **biko** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:22 pm

All Daaroods and Isaqs and Hawiyes ate was slightly boiled camel meat washed down with urine tainted camel milk before they came to towns as late as 19th Century.

Laughing

Cawar · Post by **Cawar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:25 pm

"No need in saying how much they contributed to the national cuisine: All Daaroods and Isaqs and Hawiyes ate was slightly boiled camel meat washed down with urine tainted camel milk before they came to towns as late as 19th Century."

Laughing

karkaar · Post by **karkaar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:27 pm

Galol, uunlaaye alone buitl half of down town mogdishu....

biko · Post by **biko** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:27 pm

i think most minority would a bit of brain will suport the ICU...

but since the butcher CY is in the capital, i guess they just have to ride with the tide and go with the flow.

Cawar · Post by **Cawar** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:28 pm

Ooh yes to the topic

On Behalf of the Shaanshi ppl ...I can say that we support fully the TFG...enough with Hawiye warlords.. Very Happy

eyes-only · Post by **eyes-only** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:28 pm

They don't support traitors that's for sure! They got peace and respect with the UIC, now they canÂ’t even walk the streets safely.

The minorities are more patriotic than kuwa Somali isku sheego.

musika man · Post by **musika man** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:37 pm

[quote="eyes-only"]They don't support traitors that's for sure! They got peace and respect with the UIC, now they canÂ’t even walk the streets safely.

The minorities are more patriotic than kuwa Somali isku sheego.[/quote]

eyes, talk of habargedir and not minorities. we support a democratic government with strong islamic orientation like iran, and be accountable to its people. that is why we favour the tfg over the hutu courts, in the belief they will lead us to democracy. no more indhocadde and dictator oppression.

Bazuuka · Post by **Bazuuka** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:38 pm

Actually its wrong to call some Somalis minority since
they been born in Somalia

Bazuuka · Post by **Bazuuka** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:41 pm

THe next step will be

Ayuub isaaq & Arab will be called minority of isaaq

Duduble & ujeejjeen will be called minoruti of hawiye

Kaski qabe & Mareexaan wil be called minority of Daarood

see

stop this minority shitness Laughing

Demure · Post by **Demure** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:43 pm

I think they are very smart and perceptive particularly gibil cads, they are extremely good at adapting to their circumstances and how to look out for their interests.

I don't know if you know or heard about the Mukulaal Madoow story, during the height of moryaanism they realized they wouldn't be safe unless they married off one of their daughters to one Habar Gidir or Abgaal mooryaan, not any clan but one of the two who had the worst and most feared moryaans. So when they said we have one Mukulaal Madoow in the house meaning the moryaan son-inlaw and his protection Laughing

If there is no pne Hawiye or a Darood standing after the war is over I can easily see them surviving us.

Galol · Post by **Galol** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:44 pm

Biko

Lets get some objectivity about the old MJ guy: He is no butcher. Who did he massacre? Where? I could never understand this common belief that he somehow killed loads of Somalis, he simply didnt.

It is true he tried to overthrow the Siyad governt in 1978, failed and ran. He then established the SSDF which he ran badly killing anyone who opposed him most notably allegedly ordering the assassination of Abdirahman Ceydiid, a civilian Marxist thinker.

He then stayed in Ethiopia during the SNM war when almost all his men returned to Somalia in response to Siyad's call for Daarood defense against the Isaq rebellion. After the Siyad Barre govt collapsed he came back to run Puntland only launching two fights there: one against the Wadaads in his territory, and briefly, against Cadde Muse for power when the latter escaped wisely for the good of the people instead of bloodshed
(I still respect Cadde for that).

So all in all a ruthless, power hungry man but not a mass murderer. Just to be objective for the sake of history.

Demure · Post by **Demure** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:45 pm

So I think they will support who ever has their best interest. They may not support the TFG now but I bet you if the TFG appears to be really taking control. They will be pro TFG tomorrow!

Bazuuka · Post by **Bazuuka** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:46 pm

THE MINORITIES ARE ALWAYS WITH THE WINNERS

ITS VERY EASY TO UNDRESTAND JUST ASK MUSIKA MAN Laughing

biko · Post by **biko** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:48 pm

So all in all a ruthless, power hungry man but not a mass murderer. Just to be objective for the sake of history.

because of his treachery and tigre dabadhilifnimo thats making me call him a butcher. no much difference in my book.

but i take your point. to call a dabadhilf butcher is like a compliment.