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KISMAYO:DISARMAMENT PROGAM STARTS..
Kismaayo:Isbeddel xagga ammaanka ah oo Kismaayo laga samaynayo.
Isniin, January 29, 2007
Kismaayo(AllPuntland)- Magaalada Kismaayo ee gobolka Jubbada hoose waxaa ka socda hawlgal ballaaran oo ay wadaan ciidamada dawladda federaalka Soomaaliya ee halkaasi kusugan.
Hawl galladan ayaa waxaa lagu aruurinayaa nooc walba oo uu hubku leeyahay , laga bilaabo qoryaha daran dooriga u dhaca , tooreeyaha iyo mindiyaha booda.
Sida uu AllPuntland u sheegay wariye madax bannaan oo kusugan magaalada Kismaayo ciidamada ammaanka ee dawladda federaalka waxay illaa iyo haatan xabsiga dhigeen dad gaarya 4 qof oo lagu soo qabtay ayagoo hub wata, kana dhaga adaygay awaamiirta dawladda.
Hawl galkan hub aruurinta ayaa si xawli ah u socda sida wararku sheegayaan, waxaana ciidanka ammaanku ay baaritaan ku hayaan guryaha , goobaha ganacsiga iyo goob walba oo ay shaki ka muujiyaan in hub lagu qarinayo.
Dhinaca kale ciidanka ammaanka ee Kismaayo waxay dhineceeda kawadaan hawl gal kale oo ay ku baadigoobayaan dadkii ka danbeeyay weerar dhawaan loo gaystay askar Itoobiyaan ah oo kusugnaa Kismaayo , kuwaasoo mid kamid ah dhaawac culus loo gaystay midna dhaawac fudud.
Col: C/risaaq Yuusuf Afguduud oo madax u ah guutada koowaad ee ciidanka dawladda federaalka ayaa sheegay in lasoo ogaaday cidda ay yihiin dadkii ka danbeeyay weerarkii ciidamadaasi loo gaystay, gacantana lagu soo dhigi doono.
Taliyuhu wuxuu sheegay inay jiraan dad ay soo qab qabteen , hase ahaatee ay usoo qabteen oo kaliya raadad soo galay, sida ayagoo aad ugu dhawaa meelaha uu weerarku ka dhacay.
Marka la isku soo duubo ammaanka Kismaayo waa mid aad u wanaagsan, waxaana la filayaa in hawl gallada hubka nooc walba oo uu ahaado uu sii socon doono maalmaha soo socda.
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Isniin, January 29, 2007
Kismaayo(AllPuntland)- Magaalada Kismaayo ee gobolka Jubbada hoose waxaa ka socda hawlgal ballaaran oo ay wadaan ciidamada dawladda federaalka Soomaaliya ee halkaasi kusugan.
Hawl galladan ayaa waxaa lagu aruurinayaa nooc walba oo uu hubku leeyahay , laga bilaabo qoryaha daran dooriga u dhaca , tooreeyaha iyo mindiyaha booda.
Sida uu AllPuntland u sheegay wariye madax bannaan oo kusugan magaalada Kismaayo ciidamada ammaanka ee dawladda federaalka waxay illaa iyo haatan xabsiga dhigeen dad gaarya 4 qof oo lagu soo qabtay ayagoo hub wata, kana dhaga adaygay awaamiirta dawladda.
Hawl galkan hub aruurinta ayaa si xawli ah u socda sida wararku sheegayaan, waxaana ciidanka ammaanku ay baaritaan ku hayaan guryaha , goobaha ganacsiga iyo goob walba oo ay shaki ka muujiyaan in hub lagu qarinayo.
Dhinaca kale ciidanka ammaanka ee Kismaayo waxay dhineceeda kawadaan hawl gal kale oo ay ku baadigoobayaan dadkii ka danbeeyay weerar dhawaan loo gaystay askar Itoobiyaan ah oo kusugnaa Kismaayo , kuwaasoo mid kamid ah dhaawac culus loo gaystay midna dhaawac fudud.
Col: C/risaaq Yuusuf Afguduud oo madax u ah guutada koowaad ee ciidanka dawladda federaalka ayaa sheegay in lasoo ogaaday cidda ay yihiin dadkii ka danbeeyay weerarkii ciidamadaasi loo gaystay, gacantana lagu soo dhigi doono.
Taliyuhu wuxuu sheegay inay jiraan dad ay soo qab qabteen , hase ahaatee ay usoo qabteen oo kaliya raadad soo galay, sida ayagoo aad ugu dhawaa meelaha uu weerarku ka dhacay.
Marka la isku soo duubo ammaanka Kismaayo waa mid aad u wanaagsan, waxaana la filayaa in hawl gallada hubka nooc walba oo uu ahaado uu sii socon doono maalmaha soo socda.
CCC Farayaamo
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[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Rer Kismaayo are making a big mistake. Don't give up your weapons, they are your only source of security!!!
Give up your weapons today and the next thing you know is Puntland soldiers coming to bililiqo and plunder your city. See the big picture dummies![/quote]
reer kismayo are doing great job just like the elders of reer moqadisho. those who reject disarmament are against peace. Kismayu, Marka, Afgoyee things are going fast as you see
Give up your weapons today and the next thing you know is Puntland soldiers coming to bililiqo and plunder your city. See the big picture dummies![/quote]
reer kismayo are doing great job just like the elders of reer moqadisho. those who reject disarmament are against peace. Kismayu, Marka, Afgoyee things are going fast as you see
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[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Somalilanders and Puntlanders keep their weapons in their homes, why shouldn't rer Kismaayo and xamar?
Lack of security is caused by the lack of political settlement, not weapons.[/quote]
cuss their is no violence in somaliland and puntland i dont know in puntland but in somaliland most of the rebelgroups who fought against the siyaad barre goverment are peacefully disarmed and are now part of their army. but the tfg must first focus on the south before they insult reer puntland and somaliland and its all about tribalism it doesnt have to be a negative point face it you feel saver with your tribe fellaws so ofcourse can reer puntland keep their arms and since the tfg is weak enough can they use reer puntland to combine their troops to fight terror.and ten second its not puntland who invaded the southern part but the courts so they want to make sure that they disarm all somalis in the southern part since they believe that the courts are hiding in the south. thats the fault the courts and somalis make instead they should focus on what they had liberated are they blindly invading other terrotorys and declaring jihaad on a stronger country than yours. so far is the tfg doing it well
Lack of security is caused by the lack of political settlement, not weapons.[/quote]
cuss their is no violence in somaliland and puntland i dont know in puntland but in somaliland most of the rebelgroups who fought against the siyaad barre goverment are peacefully disarmed and are now part of their army. but the tfg must first focus on the south before they insult reer puntland and somaliland and its all about tribalism it doesnt have to be a negative point face it you feel saver with your tribe fellaws so ofcourse can reer puntland keep their arms and since the tfg is weak enough can they use reer puntland to combine their troops to fight terror.and ten second its not puntland who invaded the southern part but the courts so they want to make sure that they disarm all somalis in the southern part since they believe that the courts are hiding in the south. thats the fault the courts and somalis make instead they should focus on what they had liberated are they blindly invading other terrotorys and declaring jihaad on a stronger country than yours. so far is the tfg doing it well
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You didn't get my point. Both Puntland and Somaliland CIVILIANS are still heavly armed. The militias are disarmed but not the shicibka. Everyone has their bazookas, RPGs, hand grenades and AK-47s. Before any government can ask people to hand in their weapons they have to demonstrate they can establish justice and fair governance. Remember overwhelming majority of Southern Somalis picked up weapons to DEFEND themselves against roving freelance thugs. The rifle is source of security when all else breaks down.
Disarming the militias requires political solution. Look at how smoothly M. Dheere's militia disappeared, all it took was a political resolution and M. Dheere opting to disband his forces (foolish of him though). No force was necessory, no government decree to disarm needed be enforced... solve the political issues that are the source of violence and you get your peace.
Disarming the militias requires political solution. Look at how smoothly M. Dheere's militia disappeared, all it took was a political resolution and M. Dheere opting to disband his forces (foolish of him though). No force was necessory, no government decree to disarm needed be enforced... solve the political issues that are the source of violence and you get your peace.
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[quote="dhuusa_deer"]You didn't get my point. Both Puntland and Somaliland CIVILIANS are still heavly armed. The militias are disarmed but not the shicibka. Everyone has their bazookas, RPGs, hand grenades and AK-47s. Before any government can ask people to hand in their weapons they have to demonstrate they can establish justice and fair governance. Remember overwhelming majority of Southern Somalis picked up weapons to DEFEND themselves against roving freelance thugs. The rifle is source of security when all else breaks down.
Disarming the militias requires political solution. Look at how smoothly M. Dheere's militia disappeared, all it took was a political resolution and M. Dheere opting to disband his forces (foolish of him though). No force was necessory, no government decree to disarm needed be enforced... solve the political issues that are the source of violence and you get your peace.[/quote]
but like i said somaliland&puntland got atleast a goverment and a securtity that can stop it.but the tfg wants must prove them selves why they are the goverment of somalia i mean how can they say somaliland and puntland must do that if they didnt disarmed reer moqadisho kismayo barava etc?so first they must disarm the southern part and i know that puntland wants to be part of the republic of somalia and the darawiish can join the army of somalia. somaliland is a other story but like c/yusuf already said first we must make the southern part peacefully and thats by disarming the millitants and by winning the heart of the people of somalia and so far so good
Disarming the militias requires political solution. Look at how smoothly M. Dheere's militia disappeared, all it took was a political resolution and M. Dheere opting to disband his forces (foolish of him though). No force was necessory, no government decree to disarm needed be enforced... solve the political issues that are the source of violence and you get your peace.[/quote]
but like i said somaliland&puntland got atleast a goverment and a securtity that can stop it.but the tfg wants must prove them selves why they are the goverment of somalia i mean how can they say somaliland and puntland must do that if they didnt disarmed reer moqadisho kismayo barava etc?so first they must disarm the southern part and i know that puntland wants to be part of the republic of somalia and the darawiish can join the army of somalia. somaliland is a other story but like c/yusuf already said first we must make the southern part peacefully and thats by disarming the millitants and by winning the heart of the people of somalia and so far so good
"Look at how smoothly M. Dheere's militia disappeared, all it took was a political resolution and M. Dheere opting to disband his forces (foolish of him though). "
So, you're saying that even a political settlement is not justification to disarm.
The reason Tigres are in Somalia is due to the absence of a central authority who could project enough muscle to defend the country.
So, you're saying that even a political settlement is not justification to disarm.
The reason Tigres are in Somalia is due to the absence of a central authority who could project enough muscle to defend the country.
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[quote="DawladSade"]They're only disarming the minorities, mareexaan said we are not disarming till puntland disarms and seeing 75% of the soldiers there are mareexaan no one can do shit
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War midkaan naga qabta..
He is against Somalia being turned into a security paradise just because an MJ man is the head of the government.???
War midkaan naga qabta..
He is against Somalia being turned into a security paradise just because an MJ man is the head of the government.???
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[quote="Cawar"][quote="DawladSade"]They're only disarming the minorities, mareexaan said we are not disarming till puntland disarms and seeing 75% of the soldiers there are mareexaan no one can do shit
[/quote]
War midkaan naga qabta..
He is against Somalia being turned into a security paradise just because an MJ man is the head of the government.???
[/quote]
do you object to puntland being disarmed?
War midkaan naga qabta..
He is against Somalia being turned into a security paradise just because an MJ man is the head of the government.???
do you object to puntland being disarmed?
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[quote="fagash_killer"] but like i said somaliland&puntland got atleast a goverment and a securtity that can stop it.[quote]
History doesn't start this morning or last week. Prior to establishing peace and governance both regions underwent bloody civil wars. Peace, law and order, governance were realised in both regions ONLY after outstanding political disagreements were settled. Same has to be done in Somalia or else we're setting ourselves up for another prolonged period of unrest.
[quote]why they are the goverment of somalia i mean how can they say somaliland and puntland must do that if they didnt disarmed reer moqadisho kismayo barava etc?[quote]
Somaliland = Isaaqland; Puntland = daroodland; Mogadishu = Hawiyeland... why disarm Hawiye while darods and isaaqs keep their arms?
History doesn't start this morning or last week. Prior to establishing peace and governance both regions underwent bloody civil wars. Peace, law and order, governance were realised in both regions ONLY after outstanding political disagreements were settled. Same has to be done in Somalia or else we're setting ourselves up for another prolonged period of unrest.
[quote]why they are the goverment of somalia i mean how can they say somaliland and puntland must do that if they didnt disarmed reer moqadisho kismayo barava etc?[quote]
Somaliland = Isaaqland; Puntland = daroodland; Mogadishu = Hawiyeland... why disarm Hawiye while darods and isaaqs keep their arms?
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