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Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:05 pm
by Warya_dude
All sources say somalia is 85% 'somali' this including the rahanweyn/digil mirifle/maay-maay or whatever they call them self.

-they speak a different language
-they are farmers and so were their ancestors for thousands of years SOMALIS are NOMADS
-their custom is different they have alot of witchcraft in their culture still

in countries like ethiopia, eritrea sources say its filled with ethnic groups

but somalia is homogeneous? so why are these non-Somalis considered Somali?

Somalia is only 65% Somali (-15% Bantus and Arabs, -20% Rahanweyn) and not a homogeneous country....

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:08 pm
by sadeboi
Somali waa DAROOD, dir hawiye iyo isaq

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:09 pm
by J-EASY
U forgot to mention the Garre.....they have their own language which is a mixture of amharic iyo af oromo.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:15 pm
by Lacageylacag
Raxawayns are pure somalis.
Sab iyo samale. They are sab.
If Daroods who brought Ethios are still somali, what about Raxawayns in the bush fighting the occupier and his dabodhilif?
Where is Mukhtar Robow Abu Mansuur?

They are better somali.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:26 pm
by Warya_dude
In Eritrea and Ethiopia people who look exactly the same, dress the same, same religion but are different ethnic groups because of Language

like Tigrinya, Amhara, Amara, Tigre, Gurage are considered different ETHNIC GROUPS

but in Somalia Somalis and Sab people like rahanweyn, eeylaay, boon, garre who speak different cushitic language are lumped together and creating false ideas to the outside world Somalia is a homogeneous state....


Somalia is less then 65% Somali

If you take out Somaliland its 45% Somali MINORITY

If you take out Somaliland and Puntland, Konfuur is only 30% Somali MINORITY

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:28 pm
by Lacageylacag
The only non somali I know are the Tigre Dabodhilif.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:32 pm
by Warya_dude
Others - 6%

* Tumaal, Madhibaan, Yibir, Eeyle, Yaxar, Ogeyslabe, Midgaan, Jareerweyne, Reer Xamar, Reer Baraawe and other Banaadiri clans.

* Digil - 3%
o Geledi, Tunni, Dabare, Jiiddo, Bagadi and Garre.

* Rahanweyn - 17%
o Leysaan, Xariin, Hadame, Eelaay, Jiroon, Luwaay, Geelidle, Boqorhore, Gasaargude, Hubeer, Yantaar and Jilible. All of these sub-clans belong to the larger Mirifle clan.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:40 pm
by Darbaweyne
Midgaan and Yibir Boon Yaxar are ethnic Somali just not belonging to ''nasab'' somali clans

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:53 pm
by galia
Warya_dude i would consider the rahanweyn/digil mirifle as somali but a lower caste somali since they have occasionally inter-married with Bantu's (Disgusting thing to do for any noble somali), however they are still loyal to their fellow superior somalis and are part of the larger somali society but of lower status.

However i would never view a Bantus nor an arap (Brawanai) as somali, they do not fit into the somali clan structure and are alien to our society.

Still i am surprised how huge the number of the Bantu ( former slaves from Malawi, Uganda, Tanzania) which i believe range from 500, 000 to 750, 000, which is a huge number.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:57 pm
by Warya_dude
If they are Somali, There is no difference between Oromos, Afars, Somalis, Hararis

Because its only language dividing them

If the rule doesn't apply for Sab people in Somalia then Oromos are also Somali.


Somali population is now 150 million considering all Cushites as Somali from now on Laughing

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:00 pm
by COSTA
THEY ARE SOMALIS OTHER WISE THEY WOULD`NT HAVE BEEN IN BAYDHABA AND BAKOOL

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:01 pm
by DawladSade
waa leftovers of the oromo and booran joogi jirtay, heck their language even souds more like oromo than anything else.

the onyl good raxanweyn is a dead raxanweyn

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:02 pm
by galia
Warya_dude u r confusing me?

Am sure they somali, they are just considered of lower status because they farm rather then herd camels and they allowed themselves to interbreed with Bantus.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:05 pm
by Warya_dude
[quote="galia"]Warya_dude u r confusing me?

Am sure they somali, they are just considered of lower status because they farm rather then herd camels and they allowed themselves to interbreed with Bantus.[/quote]

Somali = Anybody who speaks the original Somali language and is native to the Horn of Africa.

Rahanweyn = Not Somali just like Oromos and Amhara they only live close to us thats the difference

If your only argument is they are of lower status this isnt valid to make them the same ethnic group as us.

Re: Why are the rahanweyn considered Somali?

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:13 pm
by galia
Warya_dude actually they do speak somali but they have different words and a strong regional accent of somali they speak with.

Hey people lets leave these people in peace, i have no problem with them, infact they us Haber Gider alot in the cival war by killing alot of our enemies for us.

I would rather concentrate on killing ethiopians then victimizing on these poor people