U.S. Diplomat Sees Progress (high death toll of somali's)

[galia]

I guess that was want the white's wanted.

http://allafrica.com/stories/200702240015.html

[Grant]

Galia,

I don't care what you call it, a rose is still a rose. I can't believe you read this and then put that title on it.


U.S. Diplomat Sees Progress

United States Department of State (Washington, DC)
NEWS
February 23, 2007
Posted to the web February 24, 2007

By Jim Fisher-Thompson
Washington

Somalia's struggle to form a unified government after 15 years of clan warfare is achieving success, thanks to partners in the Horn of Africa region like Ethiopia and with help from the United Nations, the African Union (AU) and the United States, Ambassador Vicki Huddleston told the Council on Foreign Relations February 22 in Washington.

Huddleston, a former U.S. envoy to Mali and Madagascar, recently served for 15 months as acting ambassador to Ethiopia, whose government, she said, was instrumental in "pressing for dialogue" between the Somali Transitional Federal Government (TFG) and the Islamic Courts Council (ICC), a radical Islamist movement that had wrested control of the country until driven from power by a coalition of TFG and Ethiopian forces in December 2006 after talks failed.

Before that victory, "many warned that if Ethiopia intervened on behalf of the transitional government it would fuel a wider war. They were all wrong," Huddleston told the CFR panel.

Now "Ethiopia's and the Somali government's surprisingly easy victories have given Somalia -- and the West -- a second chance to get things right," said Huddleston, who returned in December 2006 from Addis Ababa.

As it stands now, "we do have a success in Somalia," the diplomat said. After cooperating with the TFG to remove the ICC threat, she added, "about one-third of the Ethiopian troops have already withdrawn. There will be a second phase and third phase of withdrawal that hopefully will coincide with the arrival of AU peacekeepers."

Nations that volunteered troops for the AU force in a move recently approved by the U.N. Security Council include Uganda, Burundi and "possibly Nigeria and Tanzania," Huddleston told the panel.

The United Nations approved a force of 8,000 peacekeepers, of which about 4,000 have been pledged so far. The United States will support the deployment by providing $15 million for airlift and other logistics, she added. (See related article.)

"A window of opportunity has opened" in Somalia, Huddleston said, and "before the Islamists close it by disrupting efforts to stabilize Mogadishu ... strong U.S. leadership will prevent Somalia from becoming a haven for al-Qaida terrorism in Africa."

The United States has taken a lead in bringing together the international community in a concerted effort to turn Somalia into a viable state through the International Contact Group on Somalia.

Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Jendayi Frazer, who represents the United States in the group, has placed Somalia high on her agenda. After making a number of visits to the region, she recently briefed the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Subcommittee on Africa on the crisis.

After a trip in January, Frazer told the panel, "The most striking lesson I took away from the visit is this: Somalis are ready for peace. While developments on the ground have maintained a frenetic pace, there are many reasons to be hopeful."

"Along with our African and international partners, the United States will remain engaged in supporting ... the process of dialogue, while also attending to the humanitarian needs of the Somali people," she said. At the last contact group meeting, Frazer said, the United States pledged $40.5 million in new funding for Somalia.

Somalis themselves are working to achieve national unity, especially on the military level, Huddleston told the CFR panel.

About 10,000 Somalis have been merged into a TFG security force representing all the clans. This is important, she emphasized, because "in the end, whether Somalia succeeds or not will depend on all Somalis" and their ability to govern themselves and provide their own security.

Politically, TFG President Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed also took "a great step" in the right direction in organizing a political conference of 3,000 clan leaders from around the country, the diplomat added.

A country not contributing to stability in Somalia, according to Huddleston, is Eritrea, which, she said, "hoped to use the conflict in Somalia to destabilize its archenemy Ethiopia." But this tactic failed, the diplomat told the CFR audience.

(USINFO is produced by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)



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[galia]

Grant with all respect don't you see my point?

The americans tell the world that somalia is making progress while infact somali people are dying on a daily basis because of ethiopian aggression with full backing by the united states.

Tell me Grant, what progress do you see in somalia today?

All i see is death and more death.

What gave the united snakes the right to encourage ethiopia to invade somalia and overthrow the popular islamist that have given us peace and secruity to replace them with a gang of warlords known as the TFG that are protected by another country.

They took away the peace we made for ourselves and they call it progress.

[Grant]

Galia,

I read the same news you do. The here and now is not pretty.

But notice that it is the US that is talking about reconcilaition with the ICU and the amount of support they mention supplying. Huddleston is talking about a second chance to get things right. This sounds seriously positive to me.

That is by far one of the most optimistic pieces I have seen yet.

And note that a third of the Habaashi are already gone!

[galia]

Yes Grant you may read the same propaganda as me but are your eye's wide open as mine?

I feel that I speak for the Somali people when I say that Ethiopia is not a friend of ours nor would they wish to leave Somalia unless we force them to leave Somalia.

Grant you speak as if these Americans care about the situation the Somali people find themselves in and you speak as if America wants peace in this world.

The few people that run America believe in this idea of the new world order where eventually the world shall have one Government and one leader.

I believe that it lies on America’s, Ethiopia’s, Kenya’s interest for Somalia to remain in the anarchy it finds itself in today.

America wants a puppet warlord government (TFG) to rule the Somali population and continue the killings of innocent Somali people so that Somalia remains as a poor country and the same can be said about the American policy in many other countries.

Grant there shall be a day when the banners of Islam shall be waved high on all four corners of the world, there shall be a day where a Muslim shall say without fear that "there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is he's messenger", there shall be a day when Muslims shall establish sharia without no persecution and there shall be a day when the Islamic khalifet shall return.

Until the Islamic khalifet is established with full sharia the people of Somalia, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Palestine, Kashmir shall never see peace, our blood and lives and honour shall be nothing. Kafirs would kill us as if we nothing on a daily basis.

Tell me where are the Muslims that were known in the past as the lions, the Muslims that were feared by all and respected by all.

There was once a time when the emerging Islamic army's crushed the mighty empire's of Persia and Byzantine (eastern Rome) at the same time, there was once a time where Muslims controlled half the world (from china to Spain).

I say its time Muslims had enough of seeing our people being killed in Palestine, Somalia, Lebanon, Chechnya, Kashmir and in many other parts of the world.

The west talks about democracy (democracy is complete rubbish), the west are nothing but hypocrites, the lies they used to tell the red Indians, aborigines they wish to sell to us.

The whole idea of democracy itself does not exist, I am a Muslim and I do not buy into democracy but rather I follow Islam and Islam requires the implementation of sharia law.

So if America and the west say to us Muslims that we cannot establish sharia in are own lands (Somalia) , then they are directly declaring a war on myself and my religion (Islamic faith).

Tell me grant do you believe that the west can defeat Islam that has one billion followers all over the world, do you think that they can extinguish the light that Prophet Muhammad received from God through arch angle Gabriel. Verily Islam has faced many enemies in the past but still stands where others fell.

The more they kill us and oppress us, the stronger we shall resist and the more they shove democracy on our throats the more we yell and shout for sharia.

Yes, am just a Somali refugee in the west, and I know your thinking that I lost the plot, but actually I speak the truth, I speak the truth because the west is making enemies where their was none, they come to our home lands and plant dictators amongst us to serve them and then they speak about how they wish to implement democracy around the world.

Tell me Grant where was the united snakes and the west when the Somali people became prisoners to the warlords, where was the help?

Somalia was left neglected by the world until we the Somali people had enough of these murderous warlords and picked up are own ask 47’s from our own homes and went to the streets to support the Islamic courts that offered us a brighter future of hope and security against the warlords that were funded by the united snakes.

When under the leadership of the Islamic courts we found peace then suddenly we found ourselves in the middle of international spotlight, and the dictator of Ethiopia (Melees Zenewi) was crying out to the world that we were terrorist.

These heartless people took away the peace we had under the Islamic courts for six months and replaced it with anarchy and then they say “ Somalia is making progress” and they also say “we are sending African peace keepers to Somalia.

The African peace keepers they are sending us are from poverty stricken countries with high HIV rates consisting of soldiers that cannot even be considered semi professional.
The African peace keepers are coming from alarming place’s such as
Uganda
Malawi
Nigeria

So the west has stolen the peace we had under the Islamic courts and replaced it with anarchy. Then if that was not enough they add salt to our wounds by insisting that foreign soldiers from ill trained countries enter Somalia to rule over us and obviously rape us in our won lands.

Look soldiers are trained to kill and many even rape therefore the notion that African peace keepers will bring peace to Somalia is extremely naïve.

We the Somali people are one of the proudest people in the world, we may not be wealthy but we are a proud bunch and it hurts me and many other Somali’s too see what’s happening to my country.

[abwaan1]

Ethiopians sent their boys to Somalia, to free Somali people from the savage tugs. To help the legal government of Somali to stand on its feet and serve it's people. They are dying to save Somalia and its people from becoming extinct. We should be thanking them again, and again, and again . They are true brothers and genuine friend. I believe history and time will be kinder and tell the roll of Ethiopia as a savior of Somalia and its people.

[Grant]

"Tell me Grant where was the united snakes and the west when the Somali people became prisoners to the warlords, where was the help?"


Galia,

Please, go further back in history than 1993.

In 1966, when I was there, Bechtel, under USAID had just completed building the port at Kismayu and a two-lane asphalt road from Kismayu to Jilib. The US financed and trained the police for the entire country. There was a US teacher training facility and a US agricultural program at Afgoi. There were Agricultural and vetinarian training programs in Somalia and the US/There were roughly 50 Peace Corps English teachers in the country and a fair number of schools built by other Peace Corps groups.

In 1969 Siad Barre seized control of the government, took Somalia into the Cold war Russian camp, cut off contact with Americans and expelled all of the American programs from the country.

The disaster in 1993 was an atempt at "nation building" sponsored by the UN.
The Clintion administration decided the situation in Somalia was not "mature", and got out.

The US spokesmen are now talking about a second chance to get things right. While I don't have unlimited faith in my government or it's ability to function on the ground in Somalia, things are sounding better than they
have in a long time.

Somalia needs all the help it can get. I strongly recommend you give the US and others in the international community a chance.

[Cilmiile]

"America wants a puppet warlord government (TFG) to rule the Somali population and continue the killings of innocent Somali people so that Somalia remains as a poor country and the same can be said about the American policy in many other countries."


America just wants Somalia to stop harbouring terrorists. And supplying refugees to the West.

galia be grateful to the west and the britain that gave you a shelter in a free council house and a job and education. Otherwise you would have been easy prey for those mooryaan rapists who violate even 7 year old babies.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Islam socks. Islamic governance must be crushed and politcal Islam destroyed whenever and wherever it is found. If that means a million Somalis must die, then so be it. Anyone who deifes Pax Americana will be destroyed.