Bosnian Scholar fears Muslim Holocaust

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A top Bosnian Muslim scholar is urging European governments to talk with not about their Muslims, warning that mounting Islamaphobia could eventually trigger a Muslim Holocaust.
"I think the European governments cannot speak anymore about Muslims," Mustafa Ceric says in an interview with BBC World Service radio to be aired this weekend.

"Europe must start speaking with Muslims and hear what they have to say and help them to make their place in society that is responsible, respectable and future looking."

The Bosnian scholar cautions that anti-Muslim sentiments, on the rise since the 9/11 terrorist attacks, could take violent turn.

"I wish that Islamaphobia that is now in Europe and in the West will not result in a Muslim Holocaust.

"Europe had this experience of anti-Semitism and Europe experienced Holocaust."

Ceric insists that while Europe said "never again" after the Holocaust, genocide had taken place in his home country.

The International Court of Justice this week recognized as a genocide the slaughter of 8,000 Muslim men and boys in 1995 by Serb forces in Srebrenica, then a UN safe haven.

"As Europeans we should not get into this adventure again," said Ceric.

According to Encyclopedia Britannica, the Holocaust refers to "systematic state-sponsored killing of Jewish men, women, and children and others by Nazi Germany and its collaborators during World War II."

Integration

The top Bosnian Muslim scholar also reserves some criticism for Muslims in Europe.

He exhorts them to do more to integrate into their societies.

Ceric insists that Muslims have to learn to interact more with the wider society and learn its values.

He believes that Muslims must learn about democracy not only within the larger context of the European community but within their own community.

The scholar cautions that unless this happens "Muslims will be in a position to fear what will happen in their future."

Integration has become a burning issue in Europe with right-wing and conservative governments vowing to expel the un-adaptive or deny access to foreigners failing culture tests.

In the Netherlands, would-be immigrants have to watch a film featuring a topless woman and gay men kissing to test their readiness to learn Dutch values and liberate in the country's liberal society.

A number of German states are further considering a lengthy cultural quiz that immigrants have to answer to get citizenship.

European Commission chief Jose Manuel Barroso said recently that Europe should integrate all minorities, including Muslims who should not have to choose between their faith and European values.

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[Sadaam_Mariixmaan]

stupid kuffars

[gurey25]

Liberal Democracy and western Society itself is fragile.

All you need to turn ultra-liberal German Euro-fags into

SS strom troopers is another great depression, which is highly likely due to todays markets.

[Grant]

"Integration has become a burning issue in Europe with right-wing and conservative governments vowing to expel the un-adaptive or deny access to foreigners failing culture tests.

In the Netherlands, would-be immigrants have to watch a film featuring a topless woman and gay men kissing to test their readiness to learn Dutch values and liberate in the country's liberal society.

A number of German states are further considering a lengthy cultural quiz that immigrants have to answer to get citizenship.

European Commission chief Jose Manuel Barroso said recently that Europe should integrate all minorities, including Muslims who should not have to choose between their faith and European values."
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Gurey,

Another Great Depression would probably do it, but so would any of several other scenarios. All that has to happen is for Islam to be seen as a sufficiently great threat to traditional culture and values.

I am guessing the atitudes and solutions expressed in this article are the direct result of 9-11, the Danish cartoon protests, and demands for the imposition of Shariica in western societies.

I find it highly ironic that Muslims have been so supportive of Hitler and NAZI values in general. I can only see that as an enormous Islamic mis-read of the West.

[Cilmiile]

I find it highly ironic that Muslims have been so supportive of Hitler and NAZI values in general. I can only see that as an enormous Islamic mis-read of the West.


What is the difference between between Hitler and America?

He killed 6 million Jews

You killed 12 millions indians

He invaded few European countries.

To date you have invaded more than 100 countries. Iraq is the latest and you have totally destroyed it.

He wasnt very liberal and charitable towards Blacks people.

But then neither were Americans at that time. Your average Mississipi black would not have found conditions in Nazi Germany any more oppressive than his homeland.

[Grant]

Cilmiile,

WWII was a major dividiing line in American history and the development of civil rights. It is true that Blacks at that time were a poorly treated underclass, but in Germany they would have been in concentration camps. There is a difference.

The damage done to the American Indians is somewhat misunderstood. Yes, there were wars and massacres, including the elimination of the entire Mandan tribe by the "gift" of smallpox-tainted blankets. But most deaths were unintentional, through the importation of European diseases the natives had no immunity for.


http://www.answers.com/topic/population ... us-peoples

"Disease began to kill immense numbers of indigenous Americans soon after Europeans and Africans began to arrive in the New World, bringing with them the infectious diseases of the Old World. One reason this death toll was overlooked (or downplayed) is that disease, according to the widely held theory, raced ahead of European immigration in many areas, thus often killing off a sizable portion of the population before European observations (and thus written records) were made. Many European immigrants who arrived after the epidemics had already killed massive numbers of American natives assumed that the natives had always been few in number. The scope of the epidemics over the years was enormous, killing millions of people—in excess of 90% of the population in the hardest hit areas—and creating "the greatest human catastrophe in history, far exceeding even the disaster of the Black Death of medieval Europe."[6]

The most devastating disease was smallpox, but other deadly diseases included typhus, measles, influenza, bubonic plague, mumps, yellow fever, and whooping cough. The Americas also had endemic diseases, perhaps including a type of syphilis, which soon became rampant in the Old World. (This transfer of disease between the Old and New Worlds was part of the phenomenon known as the "Columbian Exchange.") The diseases brought to the New World proved to be exceptionally deadly.

The epidemics had very different effects in different parts of the Americas. The most vulnerable groups were those with a relatively small population. Many island based groups were utterly annihilated. The Caribs and Arawaks of the Caribbean nearly ceased to exist, as did the Beothuks of Newfoundland. While disease ranged swiftly through the densely populated empires of Mesoamerica, the more scattered populations of North America saw a slower spread.'



The Native American Health Center here in Oakland has been one of my customers since 1978, so I have some idea what I am talking about. Please compare the current situation to what you have heard about the past.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/tcrr/sfeat ... rview.html

'Today there are 562 federally recognized American Indian tribes. Historically, they have all related to the U.S. government in various ways, although there are patterns and trends in these relationships. Specifically, tribes applied various strategies in dealing with the U.S. Some tribes fought on the battlefield as in the case of many of the plains tribes and tribes of the Great Lakes regions and in the Southeast and in the Southwest. A few groups like the Eastern Cherokees challenged the U.S. government in its own courts. Other tribes like the Sac and Fox applied delay tactics while being forced to remove from their homeland of the western Illinois area to Iowa, then to Kansas, then to Oklahoma. It is important to keep in perspective that in the early U.S.-Indian relations that the Indian nations were more powerful than the young United States."

http://www.answers.com/topic/native-american

"In the 1890s the long struggle between the expanding white population and the indigenous peoples, which had begun soon after the coming of the Spanish in the 16th cent. and the British and French in the 17th cent., was brought to an end. Native American life in the United States in the 20th cent. has been marked to a large degree by poverty, inadequate health care, poor education, and unemployment. However, the situation is changing for some groups. New economic opportunities have arisen from an upswing in tourism and the development of natural resources and other businesses on many reservations. With the passage of the 1988 Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, many tribes began operating full-scale casinos, providing much-needed revenue and employment. An increasing interest among the general population in Native American arts and crafts, music, and customs has also brought new income to many individuals and groups.

The first tribal college opened on the Navajo reservation in 1968; by 1995 there were 29 such colleges. A number of Native American radio stations now broadcast in English and native languages. Although there have been Native American newspapers since the early 1800s, there has been an increase in all types of native periodicals since the 1970s, including academic journals, professional publications, and the first national weekly, Indian Country Today. Many of these publications are now produced in cities as more Native Americans move off reservations and into urban centers. Over the years many Native Americans have bitterly objected to the disturbing of the bones of their ancestors in archaeological digs carried out across the country. These concerns brought about the passage of the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (1990). Under its terms some 10,000 skeletons had been returned to their tribes by the end of the 20th cent., and efforts to repatriate and rebury other remains were ongoing. In 1990 the Native American population in the United States was some 1.9 million, an increase of almost 38% since 1980. Oklahoma, California, Arizona, and New Mexico have the most Native American inhabitants; most Eskimos and Aleuts live in Alaska."

yOU WOULD SEE NOTHING OF THIS SORT IN A FASCIST STATE.

[fagash_killer]

The top Bosnian Muslim scholar also reserves some criticism for Muslims in Europe.

He exhorts them to do more to integrate into their societies.

Ceric insists that Muslims have to learn to interact more with the wider society and learn its values.

He believes that Muslims must learn about democracy not only within the larger context of the European community but within their own community.

The scholar cautions that unless this happens "Muslims will be in a position to fear what will happen in their future."

my hats of to you sir

[Seoma [Crawler2]]

muslims also need to learn how to handle the disagreement inside the muslim community. we're confusing others.

[fagash_killer]

[quote="mOwLiDmAcAaNe"]muslims also need to learn how to handle the disagreement inside the muslim community. we're confusing others.[/quote]

well said mowlid. we are not only confusing others but also islam.

[michael_ital]

LoooooL@ Grant

quote "WWII was a major dividiing line in American history and the development of civil rights. It is true that Blacks at that time were a poorly treated underclass, but in Germany they would have been in concentration camps. There is a difference.

The damage done to the American Indians is somewhat misunderstood. Yes, there were wars and massacres, including the elimination of the entire Mandan tribe by the "gift" of smallpox-tainted blankets. But most deaths were unintentional, through the importation of European diseases the natives had no immunity for."


Talk about understatement. BOTH races are STLL disenfranchised. The only difference is that the hoods and cavalry uniforms are gone.
And though Hitler viewed blacks as inferior, he didn't view them as a threat. Therefore I doubt they would've found their way into the camps.

[gurey25]

Grant

strange but ive never heard of Demands for Shriica in Europe by European Muslims.
Even if some have done so , its a fringe group.

The problem is with Political correctness, promoted by those very same liberals.
and with politicians that use what ever ammunition they need to get power.
Presenting a Muslim threat is the best chance of victory these days.
When muslims are in realty not threatning at all and puny.

[Cilmiile]

Grant

The only reason that the Americans freed the Blacks was because of the ideological competition with the Soviet Communism. The American propaganda of Freedom and Liberty was not going to be advanced if Millions of Americans were in chains. It is the same reason that Third world countries got their independence.

Without the Second Power of Soviet Communism all those advances in Human rights are becoming reversed in the west. And Third World countries are becoming plundered again. Look at Iraq.


88% of Red Indian population was destroyed by Americans

66% of European Jews were killed by Hitler. But in a shorter time span.



“The only good Indians I ever saw were dead.” – attributed to Gen. Phil Sheridan, January 1869, http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1137096.•


"I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the Western view of the Indian. I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth.” – Theodore Roosevelt, January 1886




They are a dissolute, vagabondish, brutal, and ungrateful race and ought to be wiped from the face of the earth." – Rocky Mountain News, “Exterminate Them!”, editorial, March 24, 1863.•


“My intention is to kill all Indians I may come across.” – Col. John M. Chivington, Quoted in Churchill, A Little Matter of Genocide.•


“Nits make lice.” – Col. John M. Chivington, Ibid. (also said at other times by William Tecumseh Sherman –note the name – and John Seveir, both Indian fighters, see http://www.mohicanpress.com/wwwboard/me ... /6534.html).•



“Of from five to six hundred souls [who were killed], the majority of which were women and children…I did not see a body of a man, woman, or child but was scalped, and in many instances their bodies were mutilated in a most horrible manner—men, women and children’s privates cut out, &c; I heard one man say that he had cut out a woman’s private parts and had them for exhibition on a stick; I heard another man say he had cut off the fingers of an Indian to get the rings on the hand…I also heard of numerous instances in which men had cut out the private parts of females and stretched them over the saddle bows and wore them over hats while riding in the ranks…I heard one man say that he had cut a squaw’s heart out, and he had it stuck up on a stick.” – a lieutenant in the New Mexico Volunteers, testifying on the Sand Creek Massacre. Quoted in Churchill, A Little Matter of Genocide

[Cilmiile]

Michael Italia

German killing of the Jews was mostly motivated by fear. Just as some of these intelligent writers like Mark Steyn and Hitchens are scared of Muslims.

But once they expanded their power and avenged their WW1 humialiationm, who is to say that Nazis would not have become just another European society, albeit slightly more regimented and paranoid(But then they are germans).

[gurey25]

I agree ciilmille

It was not the values of America that freed the blacks in the 60's.
Not martin Luther King, it was the soviet Union.

NO soviet union in the 60's and we would all still be niggers.