It's all about intimidation. Militant Muslims see no problem in killing women, kids, guys on the way home from work, in order to ensure that everyone stays in line. Become to un-Islamic for their liking, or have a different interpretation of Islam, or oppose the establishment of a theocracy, and you, your relatives and family, are grist for the mill. They have no problem deliberately killing a little kid just to intimidate. Political islam must be killed off, for all of our sakes.
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Suspected al Qaeda militants in Iraq killed 21 people on Tuesday in bomb attacks targeting Sunni Arab tribes who have formed an alliance against the hardline Islamist group, officials said.
The attacks came the day after outgoing U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad said al Qaeda was trying to undermine efforts by the Iraqi government to court tribal leaders and some insurgent groups to collaborate against al Qaeda.
In the worst attack, a suicide bomber exploded his car outside a restaurant on a main road north of Ramadi, killing at least 17 people and wounding 32, a source at Ramadi hospital said.
The restaurant was frequented by police in an area where local tribes have joined the tribal alliance against al Qaeda. Many police were among the casualties, police said.
Earlier four people were killed in two blasts in Abu Ghraib, west of Baghdad. One of the dead was the son of tribal leader Sheikh Thahir al-Dari, said Ahmed al-Dulaimi, head of the provincial council media office in Anbar province.
Dulaimi said it was a double suicide car bombing, but a relative of the sheikh, a member of the anti-Qaeda alliance, said the son was killed when a rocket-propelled grenade hit the car he was in. Another person was wounded in the car.
Relatives blamed al Qaeda for the attack.
Dari's dead son, Harith al-Dari, is the nephew of his namesake who leads the Sunni Muslim Scholars' Association, an influential body of hardline clerics. The cleric has spoken out against the anti-Qaeda alliance that includes his own tribe.
Thahir al-Dari is the head of the al-Zobaie tribe, to which Deputy Prime Minister Salam al-Zobaie belongs. The deputy prime minister was the target of an assassination bid last week.
Al Qaeda's adherence to a hardline form of Sunni Islam and indiscriminate killings have brought it into conflict with some Sunni tribes in Anbar.
GROWING STRUGGLE
Suicide bombers have targeted a number of tribal leaders in the anti-Qaeda alliance amid a growing struggle in Anbar between the militant group and tribes who oppose it.
Zobaie was wounded in last week's attack at his home in Baghdad. An aide said that suicide bomber was one of his own guards and said the tribe was itself divided between those loyal to the government and those supporting al Qaeda.
Zobaie's office said on Tuesday he had recovered and might be discharged from the U.S. military hospital later in the day.
Khalilzad, who left Iraq on Monday at the end of his tenure as U.S. ambassador, said U.S. and Iraqi officials had held contacts with Sunni Arab insurgent-linked groups and were continuing to engage them to bring them into the political process.
In a move to address Sunni Arab concerns, Iraqi officials on Monday approved amendments to ease rules under which former members of Saddam Hussein's Baath party were banned from jobs in government and the security forces.
Under the proposal, which has to go to parliament, only senior members of the former Baath party will be banned from public life, and they will still be given pensions.
Others banned in the aftermath of the U.S. invasion of 2003 will be allowed to return to their jobs in public service.
Sunni Arabs have complained that many thousands of middle- and low-ranking party members were caught up in the sweep of the law even though they joined the Baath party only to get jobs.
The de-Baathification process and the dismantling of the army contributed to widespread anger among formerly dominant Sunni Arabs, leaving many people without incomes and, especially in the case of the soldiers, open to recruitment by insurgents.
This is how Militant Muslims think
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Steeler [Crawler2]
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Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
This was not done by Al Qaeda.
We've established Al Qaeda's wonderful grasp of tactics that enabled them to 'pulloff' 9/11, and they would not target Sunni Arab Muslims who could be rallied to their call, especially in Iraq where there are a substantial number of disaffected Sunni's. Blowing up Sunni's especially close-nit Iraqi tribesmen, is not going to result in any kind of intimidation, but alienation. They would not risk this even to breakup or punish an Alliance against them for fear of alienating the wider community of Sunni Arab tribesmen.
So then, how does tactically astute Al Qaeda make a blunder like this in a critical area of their operations? They don't.
To turn around now and insult our intelligence by telling us that Al Qaeda is targeting their recruiting base is just typical of badly put together rationalisations, lies and halftruths we commonly refer to as propaganda.
Considering that the first key word in the article is 'suspected' and the article continues after this as if the assailant has been definitively proven to be Al Qaeda, which is not the case. The article tries to provide a motive to 'Al Qaeda', babbling about an alliance of Tribal leaders and the government, suggesting that killing them will somehow intimidate the tribe. This is laughable, for obvious reasons.
No fundamentalist Sunni group is responsible for this. Its just not good politics to be killing off Sunni's and carrying on about Sunni's in their press releases.
We've established Al Qaeda's wonderful grasp of tactics that enabled them to 'pulloff' 9/11, and they would not target Sunni Arab Muslims who could be rallied to their call, especially in Iraq where there are a substantial number of disaffected Sunni's. Blowing up Sunni's especially close-nit Iraqi tribesmen, is not going to result in any kind of intimidation, but alienation. They would not risk this even to breakup or punish an Alliance against them for fear of alienating the wider community of Sunni Arab tribesmen.
So then, how does tactically astute Al Qaeda make a blunder like this in a critical area of their operations? They don't.
To turn around now and insult our intelligence by telling us that Al Qaeda is targeting their recruiting base is just typical of badly put together rationalisations, lies and halftruths we commonly refer to as propaganda.
Considering that the first key word in the article is 'suspected' and the article continues after this as if the assailant has been definitively proven to be Al Qaeda, which is not the case. The article tries to provide a motive to 'Al Qaeda', babbling about an alliance of Tribal leaders and the government, suggesting that killing them will somehow intimidate the tribe. This is laughable, for obvious reasons.
No fundamentalist Sunni group is responsible for this. Its just not good politics to be killing off Sunni's and carrying on about Sunni's in their press releases.
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Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
Its the Evil US who is killing women and children in Iraq
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Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
I don't think we can use the words "Militant, extremists and facists" with the word "Islam"
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Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
[quote="Venerare-Omerta"]I don't think we can use the words "Militant, extremists and facists" with the word "Islam"[/quote]
Its tactic used by the enemy of Islam to diskredit our beautiful religion.
Its tactic used by the enemy of Islam to diskredit our beautiful religion.
Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
[quote="Venerare-Omerta"]I don't think we can use the words "Militant, extremists and facists" with the word "Islam"[/quote]
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i disagree!
i think they are the most apropriate words for them to use. i mean they have to use words they can relate to and that means something to them. words like "facsist".
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i disagree!
i think they are the most apropriate words for them to use. i mean they have to use words they can relate to and that means something to them. words like "facsist".
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Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
You better get used to them because they will win.
Re: This is how Militant Muslims think
LOL! Al Qaeda's leader is an old CIA asset, like Abu Nidal is an old Mossad asset, and they only do the bidding of their masters.
This does not actually involve winning, but causing fear, chaos and disorder, an environment inimical to rational methodical thinking. Much easier to swindle and control when were busy bickering, pointing fingers and bombing areas back into the Stone Age.
This does not actually involve winning, but causing fear, chaos and disorder, an environment inimical to rational methodical thinking. Much easier to swindle and control when were busy bickering, pointing fingers and bombing areas back into the Stone Age.
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