Elders Issue Conditions for Ceasefire Agreement

[michael_ital]

Somalia: Clan leaders issue press release over Mogadishu conflict
Sun. April 01, 2007 09:51 am.- By Mohamed Abdi Farah. - Send this news article

(SomaliNet) Traditional elders of the Mogadishu’s dominant Hawiye tribe who had an intensive meeting on Sunday issued a press statement containing six articles after receiving a telephone contact from the Ethiopian military officials yesterday over how to reach a ceasefire agreement as the Hawiye leaders accepted the proposal.

With the regard to early ceasefire between the Hawiye elders and the Ethiopian government on 22 March 2007 in the Somalia capital Mogadishu.

With the reference to carnage, destruction, the massive displacing subjected to civilians and the property destroyed for the last few days, the Hawiye leaders jointly issued the following articles as below:

1. To cease the fire from 2:00pm today, April 1 2007 throughout the capital.

2. Wishing the Ethiopian government to announce a ceasefire and also keep it emplaced.

3. The Ethiopian forces should withdraw from all the locations they had entered through the fighting to let the civilian people back to their homes.

4. Within 24 hours, peace dialogue should be opened to discuss the extent of the casualty resulted from the fighting in the capital.

5. The international community such donor countries, human rights organizations and aid agencies particularly the Red crescent and Red cross to provide help to 1.5 million displaced people inside and outside of Mogadishu and also in the nearby regions. The human rights abuse done by the Ethiopian forces and interim government troops should be taken into inquiry during the war.

6. We are asking for international support to bury the dead people and treat the wounded.

7. The Ethiopian forces and the transitional federal government to release the innocents they had arrested illegally.

Despite the truce announcement, there is a fighting continuing in the Somalia capital as the sounds of heavy artillery and gun fires could be heard throughout the city.

[DANGIRL]

Bad idea.Are they forgetting that their dealing with Xabashi those folks are known not to keep their promise they say it but they really dont mean it.

[FAH1223]

useless

the genocide will continue

[michael_ital]

dani

I agree. But it at least shows that they're willing to negotiate in good faith. NOw the onus is on the xabaash to reciprocate. Also, I believe that the mujahidiin need time to treat the wounded and bury the dead that have been massacred from the indiscriminate shelling by xabaash.

1223

I hope you're wrong.

[mizz_chief]

Hello,

they are asking too much from the Xabashi's they aint going to accept the terms even if its just..

[Alluring]

[quote="FAH1223"]useless

the genocide will continue[/quote]

How is it genocide?

[michael_ital]

mizzy

Of course not, but they at least made the gesture.

[Nolol cusub]

The Somali and English version are different




Odaayaasha Hawiye ayaa sheegay in xiriir dhexmaray iyaga iyo dowladda Itoobiya ay soo saareen lix qodob oo xabad joojin hordhac ah.

Lixdaas qodob oo u eg talo ayaa u qornaa sidaan:-

• in Ciidamadda Itoobiyaanka ,kuwa dowladda KMG ah iyo kuwa Hawiye ay ka baxaan dhamaan degaanadii lagu dagaalamay afar saac marka la hergeliyo xabad joojinta.

• In Mas'uuliyada dhismayaasha Wasaaradda Gaashandhiga ,kuliyadda Jaalle Siyaad,Istaadiyuum Muqdisho iyo Xarunta Xisbigga lagu wareejiyo odayaasha Hawiye marka Ciidamada iska soo horjeeda ka baxaan goobahaas.




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• In habka Nabad gelyada iyo wixii kale ee la xiriira dhismayaasha goobahaas loo gudbin doono Dowlada Itoobiya iyo dowladda KMG ah ee Soomaaliya labataan cesho gudahood.isla markaana waxay odayaasha Hawiye balanqaadayaan in goobahaas aysan ka abuurmin Qatar nabad gelyo,kana wajahin dhinacyadii ku dagaalamay.


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This top part only makes sense if we assume that Hawiye elders had their nerves fried. It makes no sense at all



• In hogaanka Ciidamada Nabad ilaalinta ee AMISOM Marqaati ka noqdaan fulinta heshiiska la isla gaaro

• Beesha Hawiye waxay dalbaneeysaa in todobaad gudahiisa laga wada hadlo dhibaatada ka dhalatay dagaalkii dhacay iyo daawooyintiisa.

6-Heshiiskaan ayaa waxaa uu dhaqan gelayaa marka la isla ogolaado.

NC

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"Also, I believe that the mujahidiin need time to treat the wounded and bury the dead that have been massacred from the indiscriminate shelling by xabaash."

Mick
This is the result of the insurgents using the population to hide amongst. It is the logical consequence of insurgency. When a population supports an imsurgency it makes itself a target. The Ethiopians correctly conclude that not only the militia are their enemies, but the population supporting them. Hence the "indiscriminate" shelling.

[abucubeed]

[quote="MAD MAC"]"Also, I believe that the mujahidiin need time to treat the wounded and bury the dead that have been massacred from the indiscriminate shelling by xabaash."

Mick
This is the result of the insurgents using the population to hide amongst. It is the logical consequence of insurgency. When a population supports an imsurgency it makes itself a target. The Ethiopians correctly conclude that not only the militia are their enemies, but the population supporting them. Hence the "indiscriminate" shelling.[/quote]



mad is your mom hospitalized yet??? she will be soon



the only of peace is to nuke the mother fcking hawiye

[michael_ital]

MAC

Agreed. And hence the recipe for failure and defeat. I don't think they have the will and/or the stomach to sustain it. Unlike the jews, for instance, who revel in it, and can, and will, sustain it for decades.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

Abu
Anybody ever tell you you are a weird motherfocker? If they do, believe them.

"I don't think they have the will and/or the stomach to sustain it."

I don't know. They held on to the Ogaden after decades of violence. They certainly will not stay in Mog that long. But in even one year, they could REALLY put a hurt on the Hawiye.

[michael_ital]

With Ogaden though, I believe they have a sense of entitlement, therefore the will to fight to the death for it. In this case, it's the militias who have that sense, and the Ethios a sense of trepidation. I don't think their heart's in it. And in war, if your heart aint in it, you shouldn't be there. You're setting yourself up for failure.

[fagash_killer]

im glad that odayasaa hawiye are willing to learn of their mistakes but they still ask to much from the ethiopian troops they should ask to much from the hawiye millitants and they should tell them not to harm our goverment maybe than could the ethiopian troops withdraw.

[Steeler [Crawler2]]

"With Ogaden though, I believe they have a sense of entitlement, therefore the will to fight to the death for it. In this case, it's the militias who have that sense, and the Ethios a sense of trepidation. I don't think their heart's in it. And in war, if your heart aint in it, you shouldn't be there. You're setting yourself up for failure"

I am inclined to agree with you on this point. But knowing the Ethopian Army like I do, I would expect them to resort to using brunt force - lots of firepower, to hurt the Hawiyes badly before they leave. Just to make a point.