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This is what goes on in Somalia under CY's watch.
By Anthony Mitchell
CIA and FBI agents hunting for al-Qaeda militants in the Horn of Africa have been interrogating terrorism suspects from 19 countries held at secret prisons in Ethiopia, which is notorious for torture and abuse, according to an investigation by The Associated Press.
Human rights groups, lawyers and several Western diplomats assert hundreds of prisoners, who include women and children, have been transferred secretly and illegally in recent months from Kenya and Somalia to Ethiopia, where they are kept without charge or access to lawyers and families.
The detainees include at least one US citizen and some are from Canada, Sweden and France, according to a list compiled by a Kenyan Muslim rights group and flight manifests obtained by AP.
'It was a nightmare from start to finish'
Some were swept up by Ethiopian troops that drove a radical Islamist government out of neighbouring Somalia late the previous year. Others have been deported from Kenya, where many Somalis have fled the continuing violence in their homeland.
Ethiopia, which denies holding secret prisoners, is a country with a long history of human rights abuses. In recent years, it has also been a key US ally in the fight against al-Qaeda, which has been trying to sink roots among Muslims in the Horn of Africa.
US government officials contacted by AP acknowledged questioning prisoners in Ethiopia. But they said American agents were following the law and were fully justified in their actions because they are investigating past attacks and current threats of terrorism.
The prisoners were never in American custody, said an FBI spokesperson, Richard Kolko, who denied the agency would support or be party to illegal arrests. He said US agents were allowed limited access by governments in the Horn of Africa to question prisoners as part of the FBI's counter-terrorism work.
Western security officials, who insisted on anonymity because the issue related to security matters, told AP that among those held were well-known suspects with strong links to al-Qaeda.
'We cried the whole time because we did not know what would happen'
But some US allies have expressed consternation at the transfers to the prisons. One Western diplomat in Nairobi, who agreed to speak to AP only if not quoted to avoid angering US officials, said he sees the United States as playing a guiding role in the operation.
John Sifton, a Human Rights Watch expert on counter-terrorism, went further. He said in an email that the United States has acted as "ringleader" in what he labelled a "decentralised, outsourced Guantanamo."
Details of the arrests, transfers and interrogations slowly emerged as AP and human rights groups investigated the disappearances, diplomats tracked their missing citizens and the first detainees to be released told their stories.
One investigator from an international human rights group, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorised to speak to the media, said Ethiopia had secret jails at three locations: Addis Ababa, the capital; an Ethiopian air base 59 kilometres east of the capital; and the far eastern desert close to the Somali border.
More than 100 of the detainees were originally arrested in Kenya in January, after almost all of them fled Somalia because of the intervention by Ethiopian troops accompanied by US special forces advisers, according to Kenyan police reports and US military officials.
Those people were then deported in clandestine pre-dawn flights to Somalia, according to the Kenya Muslim Human Rights Forum and airline documents. At least 19 were women and 15 were children.
In Somalia, they were handed over to Ethiopian intelligence officers and secretly flown to Ethiopia, where they are now in detention, the New York-based Human Rights Watch says.
A further 200 people, also captured in Somalia, were mainly Ethiopian rebels who backed the Somali Islamist movement, according to one rights group and a Somali government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to jeopardise his job. Those prisoners also were taken to Ethiopia, human rights groups say.
Kenya continues to arrest hundreds of people for illegally crossing over from Somalia. But it is not clear if deportations continue.
The Pentagon announced last week that one Kenyan al-Qaeda suspect who fled Somalia, Mohamed Abul Malik, was arrested and flown to the US detention centre at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
When contacted by AP, Ethiopian officials denied that they held secret prisoners or that any detainees were questioned by US officials.
"No such kind of secret prisons exist in Ethiopia," said Bereket Simon, special adviser to Prime Minister Meles Zenawi. He declined to comment further.
A former prisoner and the families of current and former captives tell a different story.
"It was a nightmare from start to finish," Kamilya Mohammedi Tuweni, a 42-year-old mother of three who has a passport from the United Arab Emirates, told AP in her first comments after her release in Addis Ababa on March 24 from what she said was 2 1/2 months in detention without charge.
She is the only released prisoner who has spoken publicly. She was freed a month after being interviewed, fingerprinted and photographed by a US agent, she said. Tuweni, an Arabic-Swahili translator, said she was arrested while on a business trip to Kenya and had never been to Somalia or had any links to that country.
She said she was arrested January 10. Tuweni said she was beaten in Kenya, then forced to sleep on a stone floor while held in Somalia in a single room with 22 other women and children for 10 days before being flown to Ethiopia on a military plane.
Finally, she said, she was taken blindfolded from prison to a private villa in the Ethiopian capital. There, she said, she was interrogated with other women by a male US intelligence agent. He assured her that she would not be harmed but urged her to co-operate, she said.
In a telephone conversation with AP, Tuweni said the man identified himself as a US official, but not from the FBI. A CIA official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said on Tuesday that the agency had no contact with Tuweni.
"We cried the whole time because we did not know what would happen. The whole thing was very scary," said Tuweni, who flew back to her family in Dubai a day after her release. - Sapa-AP
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CIA and FBI agents hunting for al-Qaeda militants in the Horn of Africa have been interrogating terrorism suspects from 19 countries held at secret prisons in Ethiopia, which is notorious for torture and abuse, according to an investigation by The Associated Press.
Human rights groups, lawyers and several Western diplomats assert hundreds of prisoners, who include women and children, have been transferred secretly and illegally in recent months from Kenya and Somalia to Ethiopia, where they are kept without charge or access to lawyers and families.
The detainees include at least one US citizen and some are from Canada, Sweden and France, according to a list compiled by a Kenyan Muslim rights group and flight manifests obtained by AP.
'It was a nightmare from start to finish'
Some were swept up by Ethiopian troops that drove a radical Islamist government out of neighbouring Somalia late the previous year. Others have been deported from Kenya, where many Somalis have fled the continuing violence in their homeland.
Ethiopia, which denies holding secret prisoners, is a country with a long history of human rights abuses. In recent years, it has also been a key US ally in the fight against al-Qaeda, which has been trying to sink roots among Muslims in the Horn of Africa.
US government officials contacted by AP acknowledged questioning prisoners in Ethiopia. But they said American agents were following the law and were fully justified in their actions because they are investigating past attacks and current threats of terrorism.
The prisoners were never in American custody, said an FBI spokesperson, Richard Kolko, who denied the agency would support or be party to illegal arrests. He said US agents were allowed limited access by governments in the Horn of Africa to question prisoners as part of the FBI's counter-terrorism work.
Western security officials, who insisted on anonymity because the issue related to security matters, told AP that among those held were well-known suspects with strong links to al-Qaeda.
'We cried the whole time because we did not know what would happen'
But some US allies have expressed consternation at the transfers to the prisons. One Western diplomat in Nairobi, who agreed to speak to AP only if not quoted to avoid angering US officials, said he sees the United States as playing a guiding role in the operation.
John Sifton, a Human Rights Watch expert on counter-terrorism, went further. He said in an email that the United States has acted as "ringleader" in what he labelled a "decentralised, outsourced Guantanamo."
Details of the arrests, transfers and interrogations slowly emerged as AP and human rights groups investigated the disappearances, diplomats tracked their missing citizens and the first detainees to be released told their stories.
One investigator from an international human rights group, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorised to speak to the media, said Ethiopia had secret jails at three locations: Addis Ababa, the capital; an Ethiopian air base 59 kilometres east of the capital; and the far eastern desert close to the Somali border.
More than 100 of the detainees were originally arrested in Kenya in January, after almost all of them fled Somalia because of the intervention by Ethiopian troops accompanied by US special forces advisers, according to Kenyan police reports and US military officials.
Those people were then deported in clandestine pre-dawn flights to Somalia, according to the Kenya Muslim Human Rights Forum and airline documents. At least 19 were women and 15 were children.
In Somalia, they were handed over to Ethiopian intelligence officers and secretly flown to Ethiopia, where they are now in detention, the New York-based Human Rights Watch says.
A further 200 people, also captured in Somalia, were mainly Ethiopian rebels who backed the Somali Islamist movement, according to one rights group and a Somali government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he did not want to jeopardise his job. Those prisoners also were taken to Ethiopia, human rights groups say.
Kenya continues to arrest hundreds of people for illegally crossing over from Somalia. But it is not clear if deportations continue.
The Pentagon announced last week that one Kenyan al-Qaeda suspect who fled Somalia, Mohamed Abul Malik, was arrested and flown to the US detention centre at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
When contacted by AP, Ethiopian officials denied that they held secret prisoners or that any detainees were questioned by US officials.
"No such kind of secret prisons exist in Ethiopia," said Bereket Simon, special adviser to Prime Minister Meles Zenawi. He declined to comment further.
A former prisoner and the families of current and former captives tell a different story.
"It was a nightmare from start to finish," Kamilya Mohammedi Tuweni, a 42-year-old mother of three who has a passport from the United Arab Emirates, told AP in her first comments after her release in Addis Ababa on March 24 from what she said was 2 1/2 months in detention without charge.
She is the only released prisoner who has spoken publicly. She was freed a month after being interviewed, fingerprinted and photographed by a US agent, she said. Tuweni, an Arabic-Swahili translator, said she was arrested while on a business trip to Kenya and had never been to Somalia or had any links to that country.
She said she was arrested January 10. Tuweni said she was beaten in Kenya, then forced to sleep on a stone floor while held in Somalia in a single room with 22 other women and children for 10 days before being flown to Ethiopia on a military plane.
Finally, she said, she was taken blindfolded from prison to a private villa in the Ethiopian capital. There, she said, she was interrogated with other women by a male US intelligence agent. He assured her that she would not be harmed but urged her to co-operate, she said.
In a telephone conversation with AP, Tuweni said the man identified himself as a US official, but not from the FBI. A CIA official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said on Tuesday that the agency had no contact with Tuweni.
"We cried the whole time because we did not know what would happen. The whole thing was very scary," said Tuweni, who flew back to her family in Dubai a day after her release. - Sapa-AP
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"Ethiopia, which denies holding secret prisoners, is a country with a long history of human rights abuses."
"US government officials contacted by AP acknowledged questioning prisoners in Ethiopia"
war nimanyahow xabishida beenta maxey ku falaan? bisinka...deny deny deny is all they do. isagoo dhar cad xiran buu ku oranayaa maay waa madow.
just have a look at Zenawi's face.. walle been hadey waji qaadatey waa kiisa. and not to mention he look like sharkaan sharkuun lah arbac ciyuun.

"US government officials contacted by AP acknowledged questioning prisoners in Ethiopia"
war nimanyahow xabishida beenta maxey ku falaan? bisinka...deny deny deny is all they do. isagoo dhar cad xiran buu ku oranayaa maay waa madow.

just have a look at Zenawi's face.. walle been hadey waji qaadatey waa kiisa. and not to mention he look like sharkaan sharkuun lah arbac ciyuun.



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Loool@ http://www.tvsomalilandeurope.net/
I think the name of the website gives us a hint. What else do qaldaans converse about, other than Darood, Darood and Darood?Lol. Yet again, they are in the process of fabricating stories, and spreading worthless tittle-tattle. "Ya Subaxanallah". Kaalay Ina Baxar, Adna Ma C/Y Baad Ku Walacday? Uurka Yuusan Kaso Dhicin, Intad Ninka Wax Ku Nabeeysid, Lool.
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I think the name of the website gives us a hint. What else do qaldaans converse about, other than Darood, Darood and Darood?Lol. Yet again, they are in the process of fabricating stories, and spreading worthless tittle-tattle. "Ya Subaxanallah". Kaalay Ina Baxar, Adna Ma C/Y Baad Ku Walacday? Uurka Yuusan Kaso Dhicin, Intad Ninka Wax Ku Nabeeysid, Lool.
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Waa gabadha aan magaceega sheegi karin ^ it comes from here walaashey
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17935971/
quote--->"Sidoo kale maxaabiistaan ayaa waxaa ka mid ah kuwo Soomaali ah oo la sheegay inay ka tirsanaayeen Maxkamadihii laga itaalka roonaaday, waxaana la sheegay in su’aalaha la weydiiyay aan la shaacin wixii ay ahaayeen, waxaase wakaaladaha wararka qaarkood sheegeen inay ka mid ahaayeen su’aalaha dadkaas la weydiiyay inay xiriir la leeyihiin Al-Qaacida iyo in kale"
http://www.puntlandpost.com/newspage.php?articleid=8263
In other words the kiikuyu hand them over to the TFG who then stab their own in the back by turning them to their masters the Xabush!!
BTW , waxba ha isku urin , I have nothing against Majeerten as a whole.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17935971/
quote--->"Sidoo kale maxaabiistaan ayaa waxaa ka mid ah kuwo Soomaali ah oo la sheegay inay ka tirsanaayeen Maxkamadihii laga itaalka roonaaday, waxaana la sheegay in su’aalaha la weydiiyay aan la shaacin wixii ay ahaayeen, waxaase wakaaladaha wararka qaarkood sheegeen inay ka mid ahaayeen su’aalaha dadkaas la weydiiyay inay xiriir la leeyihiin Al-Qaacida iyo in kale"
http://www.puntlandpost.com/newspage.php?articleid=8263

In other words the kiikuyu hand them over to the TFG who then stab their own in the back by turning them to their masters the Xabush!!
BTW , waxba ha isku urin , I have nothing against Majeerten as a whole.
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Darling, I need a verification that illustrates the points mentioned above. Otherwise, It will remain as an immaterial reports, which confirms one's assumption. Given that, Labada Dhinac Ba Wax Kala Duwan Beey Sheegayan, but as usual u jumped into conclusion, and recklessly pointed ur finger @ C/Y.
Lol@Magaceyda Sheegi Karin...Waayo?
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Lol@Magaceyda Sheegi Karin...Waayo?
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Sorry udgooney here's the part I wanted to post-->
quote-->"Maxaabiistaan ayaa intooda badan la qiray inay dowladda Kenya u soo gacangelisay Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Ciidammada Ethiopia ee dagaallada la galay Maxkamadihii Midoobay"
Source: puntlandpost
quote-->"Maxaabiistaan ayaa intooda badan la qiray inay dowladda Kenya u soo gacangelisay Dowladda Federaalka Soomaaliya iyo Ciidammada Ethiopia ee dagaallada la galay Maxkamadihii Midoobay"
Source: puntlandpost
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Please some-one refresh my memory, I don't recall Ina-Baxar posting articles when the former NSS and current "president" of Somaliland was handing over Ogadeen men to the Ethiopian authorities.
God bless Abdullahi Yusuf, he has not only awakened but increased the number of 'patroits' among us. Atta President!
God bless Abdullahi Yusuf, he has not only awakened but increased the number of 'patroits' among us. Atta President!
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Niya--->"Please some-one refresh my memory, I don't recall Ina-Baxar posting articles when the former NSS and current "president" of Somaliland was handing over Ogadeen men to the Ethiopian authorities. '
Dayuuum, I tought you had me there for a minute , good jab!!, laakiin intan danbe eed ku dartay baa hadalkaagi hore dilay
quote-->"God bless Abdullahi Yusuf, he has not only awakened but increased the number of 'patroits' among us. Atta President!"

Dayuuum, I tought you had me there for a minute , good jab!!, laakiin intan danbe eed ku dartay baa hadalkaagi hore dilay
quote-->"God bless Abdullahi Yusuf, he has not only awakened but increased the number of 'patroits' among us. Atta President!"


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Abduallahi Yusuf is responsible for the exponential increase in the number of fairweather patriots. I commend him for that!
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^ Lol, Now I beleive you were on meds yesterday!
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are you sure about that?
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Niya, LoooooooL.
Well, Somalilanders give licenses 2 their ppl 2 commit blunders, but censure others. Expect 2 be left alone, while interfering, and squeezing their nosy heads into others concerns, Lol. The same ol’ same self-interested frame of mind they poses. When u are smutty 2 the core, u’ll deem everyone will tag alone, and use immoral ways 2 terminate issues. Thus, I don’t find it mind-boggling. But the thing that concerns me, is their audacity. They are swiftly conversing about deceitfulness, as if they can bury the grimy past. Handing over religious Ogadeen men 2 Ethiopians (claiming they assists Al-Qaida), was a methodology 2 intensify their connections with Ethiopians. Hadana Ethiopia Ba Lugu Kacay. Walle Wa "self-inflicted" wound, eh!!!! Ina Baxar Ba Galabsaday, Loool.....
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Well, Somalilanders give licenses 2 their ppl 2 commit blunders, but censure others. Expect 2 be left alone, while interfering, and squeezing their nosy heads into others concerns, Lol. The same ol’ same self-interested frame of mind they poses. When u are smutty 2 the core, u’ll deem everyone will tag alone, and use immoral ways 2 terminate issues. Thus, I don’t find it mind-boggling. But the thing that concerns me, is their audacity. They are swiftly conversing about deceitfulness, as if they can bury the grimy past. Handing over religious Ogadeen men 2 Ethiopians (claiming they assists Al-Qaida), was a methodology 2 intensify their connections with Ethiopians. Hadana Ethiopia Ba Lugu Kacay. Walle Wa "self-inflicted" wound, eh!!!! Ina Baxar Ba Galabsaday, Loool.....
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