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ciyaal_warta wrote:MSB aun left mogadishu after one month of bloody fight sxb..but still somalis are dumb for not building a gov in 20 yrs

Bro, I'm not saying MSB was this or that. Whatever He was, He does not take the mas'uliiyad for qofkasto's burcadnimo. Walla Taziro Waziratun Wizra Ukhra. Whatever He was, if Somalis were something they would have built something 10 times better or at least something the same. Teeda kale the people are a reflection of their leaders and they deserve their leaders. Whatever MSB was Somalis at that time deserved it. Today Somalis deserve warlords.

Qawil welfare is the fundamental survival tool of a Nomad. Barre attempted to disolve a system hardwired into the nomads. It was the greatest obstacle to islamic/scientific-socialism. When things got ugly it was this same welfare system that assured his survival. The attackers of the Regime based their forces on qawil, they were motivated by qawil and they were attacking a qawil under the pretense of removing Barre's regime.

Qawil welfare is the basis of the chaos.

Qawil welfare is the architect of 4.5.

Qawil welfare is the safety net of all those afraid of change and progress. Such a welfare system that is so hardwired into the way of life of a people can never be removed, like aggresive cancer it always resurfaces in another location. Nothing and i mean nothing has changed for over 20years. The only reason we think it is a 20year old problem is due to the fact we have no writen history. It was around pre islam and managed to survive since the introduction of islam.

The only cure:

- Creation of alternative welfare systems that reward an individual by aviodance of the ancient system. Some form of socialism where the population is a stake holder and everybody has a job and an input into the decision making process.

Qawilism will never tolerate hierarchical system of governance for we all want our adeero to be the president otherwise we instantly become a detractor to peace and progress.

My opinion.

It's naive to think that MSB AUN just walked away in Januari 1991, his plans were to regroup and retake the city but they were repulsed all the way to our border with Kenya and that's when Morgan took the command of the entire 'darood' militia. Make no mistakes MSB wanted and fought for Xamar

Murax wrote:

Shirib wrote:The President of Tunisia left when the government was still functioning. Siad Barre left after his government had already collapsed. That's the biggest difference.

abdalla11 wrote:Darood shouldn't have fled Xamar, biggest mistake ever

Anybody should have left Xamar considering the qashin qub it turned into. It is not the job of a clan be it Darood or anyone to hold an entire country together. It is the responsibility of all the citizens to act like human beings.

I am not saying that a clan should hold an entire country together, all i am saying is they should've fight for xamar like they fought for Kismayo, Gedo and Gaalkacyo instead of watching how people destroy and occupy their houses

PrinceOfDarwiishLand wrote:

SLJOOFAY wrote:
Your just a total CLOWN, when did the SNM slaughter Mareexan or when did the SNM loot Muqdishu. If ur gona contribute u should do so with some realistic facts. Wot an absolute CLOWN

I have realistic facts. Abdirahman Tuur send over thousands of SNM militia to Mogadishu in April 1991 to fight against the SNF and help the USC. After the SNM secured the Northern cities of Somalia, Caydid asked Abdirahman Tuur for weapons and men, and he surely got it.

They partook in the battles of Jamaame, Kismaayo and so forth.

LOL Cumar carte Qaalib ordered the government soldiers to surrender to only SNM and USC while there were other rebel groups

abdalla11 wrote:Darood shouldn't have fled Xamar, biggest mistake ever

Dude its been 20 years since today but still you are wearing on pampers and cry like a little bij.
Grow up

HutuKing01 wrote:

abdalla11 wrote:Darood shouldn't have fled Xamar, biggest mistake ever

Dude its been 20 years since today but still you are wearing on pampers and cry like a little bij.
Grow up

evualating things isn't whining you cambuulo freak

You are comparing human being to animal, you are doing unjust to the animal.

PrinceOfDarwiishLand wrote:

SLJOOFAY wrote:
Your just a total CLOWN, when did the SNM slaughter Mareexan or when did the SNM loot Muqdishu. If ur gona contribute u should do so with some realistic facts. Wot an absolute CLOWN

I have realistic facts. Abdirahman Tuur send over thousands of SNM militia to Mogadishu in April 1991 to fight against the SNF and help the USC. After the SNM secured the Northern cities of Somalia, Caydid asked Abdirahman Tuur for weapons and men, and he surely got it.

They partook in the battles of Jamaame, Kismaayo and so forth.

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SNM was composed of Isaaq foot soldiers, have u got any proof that SNM soldiers faught in Kismayo and Jamaame. i guarentee u that not a single Isaaq soldier faught in these places.SNM faught to liberate THEIR lands from a savage tribilist goverment. If u want to blame any body for why Somalia disintegrated and the clan was at the fore have a look at your hero's policies of turning tribes against each other and building a government dominated by his tribal hench men.

Prince of doqanimo always ready to bad mouth SL and SNM.. SNM Fought against the govt when the govt went down the SNM laid down thier weapons and start the peace process in the north with Gadarbursi and Dhulls.

The problem with xamar is that every tribe wants to president. So they can earn a few dollars .. Peace was close when the icu were in charge

SLJOOFAY wrote:

PrinceOfDarwiishLand wrote:

SLJOOFAY wrote:
Your just a total CLOWN, when did the SNM slaughter Mareexan or when did the SNM loot Muqdishu. If ur gona contribute u should do so with some realistic facts. Wot an absolute CLOWN

I have realistic facts. Abdirahman Tuur send over thousands of SNM militia to Mogadishu in April 1991 to fight against the SNF and help the USC. After the SNM secured the Northern cities of Somalia, Caydid asked Abdirahman Tuur for weapons and men, and he surely got it.

They partook in the battles of Jamaame, Kismaayo and so forth.

SNM was composed of Isaaq foot soldiers, have u got any proof that SNM soldiers faught in Kismayo and Jamaame. i guarentee u that not a single Isaaq soldier faught in these places.SNM faught to liberate THEIR lands from a savage tribilist goverment. If u want to blame any body for why Somalia disintegrated and the clan was at the fore have a look at your hero's policies of turning tribes against each other and building a government dominated by his tribal hench men.[/quote]


Sxb, don't respond to this troll. She just wants attention.

The only handicap is you for comparing the Somali war in which thousands had already died and the dictator and all institutions collapse. Anyway, why do i get the feeling that you are trying to defend Siyad Bare?

Yaa kugu yidhi Somalis are dumb? Don't insult dumb people

Murax wrote:Look at Tunisia after their leader was ousted. Police is still functioning, Army still functioning, heck they even have a friggin interim Gov already set up. Somalia? Like little school childeren they used the exile of a 'dictator' as a free pass to go crazy, and still have the audacity to place their xoolo antics on a dead Man. Wallahi I do not make MSB AUN threads, or try to interject His name into things unnecessairly but I had to here because it pertains to what I'm saying. The Sewage repair Man fixing a broken pipe in Tunis, or the Traffic Policeman are not using Ben Ali's dictatorship as a free reign to all of the sudden act like animals.

Your generalizing believe it or not some people are better off than they were under Siad Barre, also people do what they are taught......

Samatr wrote:
Your generalizing believe it or not some people are better off than they were under Siad Barre, also people do what they are taught......

Over millions of Somalis died, after Jalle Siyaad Barre left power. Somalia's is having an identity crisis. Jalle Siyaad Barre was the Messiah of Somalia. Without him or his likes, there will be no Somalia.

^He's a dead man there's no use slinging dirt on the deceased, yes millions died after he left office and hundreds and thousands died while he was in power.......life is life no matter whose dying.
you should be thinking about how to fix your country instead of worrying about how to destroy it further.