It is important for SSC not to pass Dhulbahante clan boundary.

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It is important for SSC not to pass Dhulbahante clan boundary.

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As it stands now.

Do not approach Oog or Caynaba. Regardless of historical grievance, it is not now Dhulbahante clan territory.

Close your clan boundary, consolidate SSC territory, keep building administration, stabilize security, provide for the quick return of displaced, and promptly start reconstructing.

SSC has won its battle for self-administration and has strong moral support for overcoming the compulsion it faced.

Do not break your convenant with Justice.

Don't pass your clan lines as they stand this moment.
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An third Darood state who doesn’t feel lucky. Secondly the domestic violence victim knows I’m coming for her head
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I respectfully disagree.
The war is not quite over.....as long as the iidoor pose a threat.

We must continue to degrade their forces and material.
The occupation of iidoor towns will be used to bring the iidoors to the table.

If we retreat to our lands.....what's stopping the iidoor from regrouping and launching counterattacks?

The war will continue in iidoor lands until the iidoors opt for peace. We will then demarcate our respect territories and mutually recognise each others authority.
Only then can we have peace.

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original dervish wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:11 am I respectfully disagree.
The war is not quite over.....as long as the iidoor pose a threat.

We must continue to degrade their forces and material.
The occupation of iidoor towns will be used to bring the iidoors to the table.

If we retreat to our lands.....what's stopping the iidoor from regrouping and launching counterattacks?

The war will continue in iidoor lands until the iidoors opt for peace. We will then demarcate our respect territories and mutually recognise each others authority.
Only then can we have peace.

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Foolish. You are no better than Muuse. And your fate will be the same.

Thankfully, I do not believe Garad Jama or the new SSC administration will allow such reckless hooliganism to assert itself.

SSC has been a war of "Self-Determination" not a war of imperialism (that was Muuse). Moving a cm past your own clan lines is the point at which IT ALL FALL APARTS (to borrow the famous title of Chinua Achebe's celebrated book).
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This is all about ending the conflict.
We will trade iidoor land for peace.
This is an age old formula.

We cannot accept the war to be frozen.......so it can be restarted in the future.We want a full and comprehensive peace with the iidoors, an agreed tribal demarcation, mutual recognition of each other's administrations.


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OD, Rome if you know your history. Rome lost wars to barbarians and generals. But it always returned and reconquered. We are Rome in the horn.
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original dervish wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:29 am This is all about ending the conflict.
We will trade iidoor land for peace.
This is an age old formula.

We cannot accept the war to be frozen.......so it can be restarted in the future.We want a full and comprehensive peace with the iidoors, an agreed tribal demarcation, mutual recognition of each other's administrations.

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original dervish wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:29 am This is all about ending the conflict.
We will trade iidoor land for peace.
This is an age old formula.

We cannot accept the war to be frozen.......so it can be restarted in the future.We want a full and comprehensive peace with the iidoors, an agreed tribal demarcation, mutual recognition of each other's administrations.


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Sxb, how long have you and I disliked each other? I think at this point even you can admit both 1.) waad iga gardarnayd and 2.) I am principled which changes for nothing.

Your behavior right now is not showing "principled."

When you were in the down, you were impacted, almost overburdened, spiritually inspired, and deeply steeped in the deliverance of justice as your salvation.

Do not become like the people of Moses who after being delivered turned their backs on God Almighty to worship the goldan idols!

It was unjust for them to instigate compulsion against Dhulbahante in their own homes and it would be unjust for Dhulbahante to instigate compulsion against them in their own homes.

That is not how to "end" conflict, you know damn well that is the further continuance of conflict.

That is your pride, arrogance, and greed even lack of self-control speaking.

Bring back this man, he was a creation of God 👇

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SSC forces have been ordered to halt 16 kms from OOG where they have effectively set up their "line" of territory :clap:

Garad Jama's leadership is indeed wise

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original dervish wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:11 am I respectfully disagree.
The war is not quite over.....as long as the iidoor pose a threat.

We must continue to degrade their forces and material.
The occupation of iidoor towns will be used to bring the iidoors to the table.

If we retreat to our lands.....what's stopping the iidoor from regrouping and launching counterattacks?

The war will continue in iidoor lands until the iidoors opt for peace. We will then demarcate our respect territories and mutually recognise each others authority.
Only then can we have peace.

🇸🇴


I understand. If I’m being real they alienated everyone south of Goojacade (🐀).

They the money. It’s always us two being the brains. They alienated their own in Burco and Borama. But it’s MX this MX that. You know Dhabacyos are only looking out for their own state interest. They diplomats for that (way better sauce and originality). You know who to get hub from. Welcome to the long winter
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Ileen voltage was iska miskiin

the isaaq men are going to get raped let alone the women. They are going into mass graves
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KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:59 am Ileen voltage was iska miskiin

the isaaq men are going to get raped let alone the women. They are going into mass graves
This

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skywalker25 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:34 am OD, Rome if you know your history. Rome lost wars to barbarians and generals. But it always returned and reconquered. We are Rome in the horn.
You are a small Somali clan that became famous in 1991 due to alliance with SSDF, USC and SPM. You're history begins in 1991 unless you want to count going to mengestu as pawns, going to TPLF as slave Jaajuuus or begging UK during the Sayid haxssan times. You'll have faced reality after 33+ yrs head start, mass amounts of weapon, money and Djibouti support along with Isse and Samaroon soldiers. Soo soco siraadey. Good thing is now you won't cry on aljazeera about fake genocide. Hargeysa has no gone into it's dark age.
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Faisalali wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 6:21 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:34 am OD, Rome if you know your history. Rome lost wars to barbarians and generals. But it always returned and reconquered. We are Rome in the horn.
You are a small Somali clan that became famous in 1991 due to alliance with SSDF, USC and SPM. You're history begins in 1991 unless you want to count going to mengestu as pawns, going to TPLF as slave Jaajuuus or begging UK during the Sayid haxssan times. You'll have faced reality after 33+ yrs head start, mass amounts of weapon, money and Djibouti support along with Isse and Samaroon soldiers. Soo soco siraadey. Good thing is now you won't cry on aljazeera about fake genocide. Hargeysa has no gone into it's dark age.
Leave them alone maan माँ leave them alone. It’s ur turn. Have the black book on them. They are complicit in removal of Roe. That’s why we BRICs.
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KacdoonSool wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 11:59 am Ileen voltage was iska miskiin

the isaaq men are going to get raped let alone the women. They are going into mass graves
Isn't your gripe with USC or "Hawiye" what allegedly immediately occurred after the overthrow of Siad Barre? How are you different to them that you still complain about decades later?

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