How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
There is no morality without religion.
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
theologain wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:34 amWrong in Atheism Morality doesn't exist it is only optimistic nihilism. In Atheistic beliefs it is okay to have incest with your mother, sister or daughter.Twist wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:24 pmWiredForGood wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:57 pm
There is no sidestepping but using the verses as guidelines with the understanding THAT there is real and relative portions allocated for inheritance among relatives. Also, there is no division of one rule since Muslims are allowed or given permission to write wills as they see just and out of kindness to some of their relatives. So, if the rules were rigid, as you folks would have it, such permissions of writing wills as one sees just/fit would not come into play.
Religion is ease saxib, it is not meant to be hardship and Islam is flexible as long as the fundamental rules are not broken. There are steps to everything.
If you really want to see how biased those websites run their anti-islam propaganda, pay close attention to earth is flat claim they try to foist on Islam. This with Muslims of the past making maps, globes and treating earth as spherical. In fact, Muslims were able to align their mosques to Makkah using their know how of earth's spherical nature from anywhere they settled. Then you have these websites telling us how Islam teaches Earth is flat quoting the Quran out of context. They also quote one translator Jalalyn's opinion who disagreed with the Majority of Muslim scholars on this issue in his tafseer. Muslim scholars uniformly accepted earth is spherical, there is no serious recorded debates among the early Muslims on this issue.
Shooting stars and all you can list as challenges are not that of a challenge. Only in your mind. The arguments you copy and think they are accurate are nothing more than deceitful representation of verses, or because of sheer ignorance.
Well, we can go back and forth for eternity and neither of us is going to change their position so I don't see the point of going in circles forever. You guys have your faith in god and religion and we, our faithlessness in gods and religions.
And by the way, this parodied version of John Lennon's 'Imagine' is my religion for now:![]()
Imagine there is no Allah
No Jesus to crucify
No Church no Temple
No Mosque to horrify
No Monks no Mullahs
No Priesthood of pedophiles
No Ayatullahs no Jesuits
No Popes to petrify
Imagine Christians and Muslims
Without the conversion cries
Imagine there is no religions
Only ethics to live by
No Koran no Bible
No Terror no suicides
No Jihad no Crusades
Now say them bye bye
No Genocides no murders
No Gods no Allahs
No Faith on fictions
Only Kings to pacify
No torture no Inquisition
No burning of witches
No Women to sacrifice
No Heresy no blasphemy
No Heretics to die
No Hell no heaven
Only Earth and sky
Imagine all the Muslims
Without heavenly pies
No beating of children
No animals for cruelty
And nothing to kill joy
Imagine all the people
Living secular high
No Fiction of hereafter
No Nuns to sacrifice
No Virgins in heavens
Only here to enjoy
No Repression of women
No Slavery to Blacks
No Apartheid no colonies
No Jews with sighs
You may say I am a Humanist
But I am not the only one
I hope someday you join us
And peace will be nigh
Killing one another is normal it how God Hard wired us. It is part of Human nature.
Ethics don't exist in Atheism according to Ricard Dawkins.
Answer my Question
Is it Normal to drink your Father's semen even though Semen causes no health risk or issues?
Yummm.......
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
Atheism can't answer morality questions.Basra- wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:06 amtheologain wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:34 amWrong in Atheism Morality doesn't exist it is only optimistic nihilism. In Atheistic beliefs it is okay to have incest with your mother, sister or daughter.Twist wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:24 pm
Well, we can go back and forth for eternity and neither of us is going to change their position so I don't see the point of going in circles forever. You guys have your faith in god and religion and we, our faithlessness in gods and religions.
And by the way, this parodied version of John Lennon's 'Imagine' is my religion for now:![]()
Imagine there is no Allah
No Jesus to crucify
No Church no Temple
No Mosque to horrify
No Monks no Mullahs
No Priesthood of pedophiles
No Ayatullahs no Jesuits
No Popes to petrify
Imagine Christians and Muslims
Without the conversion cries
Imagine there is no religions
Only ethics to live by
No Koran no Bible
No Terror no suicides
No Jihad no Crusades
Now say them bye bye
No Genocides no murders
No Gods no Allahs
No Faith on fictions
Only Kings to pacify
No torture no Inquisition
No burning of witches
No Women to sacrifice
No Heresy no blasphemy
No Heretics to die
No Hell no heaven
Only Earth and sky
Imagine all the Muslims
Without heavenly pies
No beating of children
No animals for cruelty
And nothing to kill joy
Imagine all the people
Living secular high
No Fiction of hereafter
No Nuns to sacrifice
No Virgins in heavens
Only here to enjoy
No Repression of women
No Slavery to Blacks
No Apartheid no colonies
No Jews with sighs
You may say I am a Humanist
But I am not the only one
I hope someday you join us
And peace will be nigh
Killing one another is normal it how God Hard wired us. It is part of Human nature.
Ethics don't exist in Atheism according to Ricard Dawkins.
Answer my Question
Is it Normal to drink your Father's semen even though Semen causes no health risk or issues?
Yummm.......WTF????????????????????????????????????
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
theologain wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:34 amWrong in Atheism Morality doesn't exist it is only optimistic nihilism. In Atheistic beliefs it is okay to have incest with your mother, sister or daughter.Twist wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:24 pmWiredForGood wrote: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:57 pm
There is no sidestepping but using the verses as guidelines with the understanding THAT there is real and relative portions allocated for inheritance among relatives. Also, there is no division of one rule since Muslims are allowed or given permission to write wills as they see just and out of kindness to some of their relatives. So, if the rules were rigid, as you folks would have it, such permissions of writing wills as one sees just/fit would not come into play.
Religion is ease saxib, it is not meant to be hardship and Islam is flexible as long as the fundamental rules are not broken. There are steps to everything.
If you really want to see how biased those websites run their anti-islam propaganda, pay close attention to earth is flat claim they try to foist on Islam. This with Muslims of the past making maps, globes and treating earth as spherical. In fact, Muslims were able to align their mosques to Makkah using their know how of earth's spherical nature from anywhere they settled. Then you have these websites telling us how Islam teaches Earth is flat quoting the Quran out of context. They also quote one translator Jalalyn's opinion who disagreed with the Majority of Muslim scholars on this issue in his tafseer. Muslim scholars uniformly accepted earth is spherical, there is no serious recorded debates among the early Muslims on this issue.
Shooting stars and all you can list as challenges are not that of a challenge. Only in your mind. The arguments you copy and think they are accurate are nothing more than deceitful representation of verses, or because of sheer ignorance.
Well, we can go back and forth for eternity and neither of us is going to change their position so I don't see the point of going in circles forever. You guys have your faith in god and religion and we, our faithlessness in gods and religions.
And by the way, this parodied version of John Lennon's 'Imagine' is my religion for now:![]()
Imagine there is no Allah
No Jesus to crucify
No Church no Temple
No Mosque to horrify
No Monks no Mullahs
No Priesthood of pedophiles
No Ayatullahs no Jesuits
No Popes to petrify
Imagine Christians and Muslims
Without the conversion cries
Imagine there is no religions
Only ethics to live by
No Koran no Bible
No Terror no suicides
No Jihad no Crusades
Now say them bye bye
No Genocides no murders
No Gods no Allahs
No Faith on fictions
Only Kings to pacify
No torture no Inquisition
No burning of witches
No Women to sacrifice
No Heresy no blasphemy
No Heretics to die
No Hell no heaven
Only Earth and sky
Imagine all the Muslims
Without heavenly pies
No beating of children
No animals for cruelty
And nothing to kill joy
Imagine all the people
Living secular high
No Fiction of hereafter
No Nuns to sacrifice
No Virgins in heavens
Only here to enjoy
No Repression of women
No Slavery to Blacks
No Apartheid no colonies
No Jews with sighs
You may say I am a Humanist
But I am not the only one
I hope someday you join us
And peace will be nigh
Killing one another is normal it how God Hard wired us. It is part of Human nature.
Ethics don't exist in Atheism according to Ricard Dawkins.
Answer my Question
Is it Normal to drink your Father's semen even though Semen causes no health risk or issues?
Brother, what Twist suggested is not bad. To each their own religion. Also , it is not true all atheists lack morality. Just like a Muslim is capable of immorality, so are others, Twist is wise in his suggestion. As long as he is respectful, we must return the favour. We engage them in conversation when necessary. If they quit, we quit.
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
Alot of morality came from religion. But isn't Atheism anti religion? Twist uses a form of existentialism, which a sort of apostasy in Atheism. Morality is Justice between bad and good, in Athesim Bad or Good does not exist. Because the Universe has no Meaning according to Many atheist and philosophers.WiredForGood wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:04 amtheologain wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:34 amWrong in Atheism Morality doesn't exist it is only optimistic nihilism. In Atheistic beliefs it is okay to have incest with your mother, sister or daughter.Twist wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:24 pm
Well, we can go back and forth for eternity and neither of us is going to change their position so I don't see the point of going in circles forever. You guys have your faith in god and religion and we, our faithlessness in gods and religions.
And by the way, this parodied version of John Lennon's 'Imagine' is my religion for now:![]()
Imagine there is no Allah
No Jesus to crucify
No Church no Temple
No Mosque to horrify
No Monks no Mullahs
No Priesthood of pedophiles
No Ayatullahs no Jesuits
No Popes to petrify
Imagine Christians and Muslims
Without the conversion cries
Imagine there is no religions
Only ethics to live by
No Koran no Bible
No Terror no suicides
No Jihad no Crusades
Now say them bye bye
No Genocides no murders
No Gods no Allahs
No Faith on fictions
Only Kings to pacify
No torture no Inquisition
No burning of witches
No Women to sacrifice
No Heresy no blasphemy
No Heretics to die
No Hell no heaven
Only Earth and sky
Imagine all the Muslims
Without heavenly pies
No beating of children
No animals for cruelty
And nothing to kill joy
Imagine all the people
Living secular high
No Fiction of hereafter
No Nuns to sacrifice
No Virgins in heavens
Only here to enjoy
No Repression of women
No Slavery to Blacks
No Apartheid no colonies
No Jews with sighs
You may say I am a Humanist
But I am not the only one
I hope someday you join us
And peace will be nigh
Killing one another is normal it how God Hard wired us. It is part of Human nature.
Ethics don't exist in Atheism according to Ricard Dawkins.
Answer my Question
Is it Normal to drink your Father's semen even though Semen causes no health risk or issues?
Brother, Twist suggested is not bad. To each their own religion. Also , it is not true all atheists lack morality. Just like a Muslim is capable of immorality, so are others, Twist is wise in his suggestion. As long as he is respectful, we must return the favour. We engage them in conversation when necessary.
I will tell you how Morality came into atheism
Atheism broke from Religion
Atheism took moarl values from religion and adopted them.
Twist uses Imagine if there is No Allah or God, he is not suggesting he is enforcing.
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
theologain wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:11 am
Alot of morality came from religion. But isn't Atheism anti religion? Twist uses a form of existentialism, which a sort of apostasy in Atheism. Morality is Justice between bad and good, in Athesim Bad or Good does not exist. Because the Universe has no Meaning according to Many atheist and philosophers.
I will tell you how Morality came into atheism
Atheism broke from Religion
Atheism took moarl values from religion and adopted them.
Twist uses Imagine if there is No Allah or God, he is not suggesting he is enforcing.
Bro, there is no set definition for atheism. There is one thing common among people who claim to be atheists. There is no God. From there, it is downward spiral and religion of instinct, just do as you please kinda mentality. Some though realized humans will always need an organized religion, so they repurposed the Ten Commandments and adopted them as their own Commandments. Here is their ten commandments I generated through quick googling. And these are American Atheists btw who are more classy and respectful than the Somali ones you guys deal with in here like Xplaya.
1. Thou SHALT NOT believe all thou art told.
2. Thou SHALT seek knowledge and truth constantly.
3. Thou SHALT educate thy fellow man in the Laws of Science.
4. Thou SHALT NOT forget the atrocities committed in the name of god.
5. Thou SHALT leave valuable contributions for future generations.
6. Thou SHALT live in peace with thy fellow man.
7. Thou SHALT live this one life thou hast to its fullest.
8. Thou SHALT follow a Personal Code of Ethics.
9. Thou SHALT maintain a strict separation between Church and State.
10. Thou SHALT support those who follow these commandments.
For elaborate definition of each commandment, here is their website: http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/ten_ ... ments.html
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Re: How come there is no archaeological evidence of Prophet Sulaiman?
I believe in the ten commandments execept the fourth given to MusaWiredForGood wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:28 amtheologain wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:11 am
Alot of morality came from religion. But isn't Atheism anti religion? Twist uses a form of existentialism, which a sort of apostasy in Atheism. Morality is Justice between bad and good, in Athesim Bad or Good does not exist. Because the Universe has no Meaning according to Many atheist and philosophers.
I will tell you how Morality came into atheism
Atheism broke from Religion
Atheism took moarl values from religion and adopted them.
Twist uses Imagine if there is No Allah or God, he is not suggesting he is enforcing.
Bro, there is no set definition for atheism. There is one thing common among people who claim to be atheists. There is no God. From there, it is downward spiral and religion of instinct, just do as you please kinda mentality. Some though realized humans will always need an organized religion, so they repurposed the Ten Commandments and adopted them as their own Commandments. Here is their ten commandments I generated through quick googling. And these are American Atheists btw who are more classy and respectful than the Somali ones you guys deal with in here like Xplaya.
1. Thou SHALT NOT believe all thou art told.
2. Thou SHALT seek knowledge and truth constantly.
3. Thou SHALT educate thy fellow man in the Laws of Science.
4. Thou SHALT NOT forget the atrocities committed in the name of god.
5. Thou SHALT leave valuable contributions for future generations.
6. Thou SHALT live in peace with thy fellow man.
7. Thou SHALT live this one life thou hast to its fullest.
8. Thou SHALT follow a Personal Code of Ethics.
9. Thou SHALT maintain a strict separation between Church and State.
10. Thou SHALT support those who follow these commandments.
For elaborate definition of each commandment, here is their website: http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/ten_ ... ments.html
You shall have no other gods before me.
You shall not make any graven images.
You shall not use the Lord's Name in vain.
Remember to keep Sabbath day holy. Not this one
Honor your father and mother.
You shall not commit murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not steal.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour.
You shall not covet.
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