The man who buried Somaliland's dead

[X.Playa]

I didn’t read that long azz essay, but it happened ages ago.

AUN.

Why bother commenting then? Horta why do you sound you are on your eternal period 24/7 you appear like a feisty little dhoocil on heat.

[AwRastaale]

X-balaayo,

Sxb I know I buried my third leg on many naago but how many times did you bury your dhagax Aw-Buddha in your backyard?


Please don’t use Wikipedia to try and answer the q.

I ask the questions here mate.

AwAmhara is on fire!!!
AwOromo is smashing!!
#IdoorDhiig.kaar.com

[X.Playa]

X-balaayo,

Sxb I know I buried my third leg on many naago but how many times did you bury your dhagax Aw-Buddha in your backyard?


Please don’t use Wikipedia to try and answer the q.

I ask the questions here mate.

AwAmhara is on fire!!!
AwOromo is smashing!!
#IdoorDhiig.kaar.com

Meaningless duufle come back. You are loosing futo jiclow easy with these chips on your shoulder.

Dadka hayska weynayn
Inaad kali wax garad tahay

Don't ask your Oromo step father for its meaning.

By the way I don't discuss where my ceeb has been, but I assure you it has seen plenty dark tunnels of your isxaaq suxul baruurs.

[AwRastaale]

gaal madow

I did enough damage on you already.

I noticed you take topics like this to heart. Is it possible that Faqash buried your father alive and some kufaar who believed in rocks adopted you from the graveyard?

Don’t say I went too hard on you now coz your the one talking about daddies.

I see why you have wounds.

[original dervish]

There was never any genocide............snm killed more iidoor than the former glorious regime.

[smartyt]

The once wearing fatigue were not rebels. This is basics, the first round of killing were acted upon Isaaq government employees mostly from the security sections, thus the fatigue. Their mistakes was to report to work as usual. These were the few hundreds of isaaqs who chose to be blind and thought if they distance themselves from the rebels and majority isaaq population and be uncle Toms they would be safe. The Daarood regime excited them first.

Malko Durduro was originally mass government graves of Isaaq civil servants and governments security forces. So much for their loyalty.

Your silly propaganda does not make any sense why will they kill the people helping them ? lo logic at all. Funny enough nobody killed the hundred tusind Idoor in Xamar

Its well recorded not a single government employee survived this massacre. They reported to work only to be rounded up and excuted.

Why it didn't happen in Xamar it couldn't be done because it would have been witnessed by millions of Somalis majority none Isaaq and that would have expedited the demise of the regime of your uncle.

Well recorded by who ?
I am asking again why will the Kacaan which was a rational acting government do anything like that ?

[X.Playa]

Ask your people. Your people for some strange reason thought they can simply exterminate isaaq that how big was Daarood hubris. It was the policy since the mid 1980s. Col. Jihad troops were openly referred to by the Afweyne government " ciidanka dabar goynta isaaqa " it was no secret he was armed and paid by the national government.

As far as the mass killing of isaaq civil servant and soldiers before the Hargaysa battle its well known and recorded by various human right watch groups.

Why would they do that? Same reason your minor dhulbahante clan and ogadens thought they will inherit the land after the isaaq extermination. Hate + hubris.

[smartyt]

Darod are no angels but genocide on an entire clan I know my people they dont have that kind of savage subhuman mentality otherwise I will had observed it. Issaq civilians were sadly killed in the street battles which only SNM is to blame at the end of the day funny how the genocide did not happen in 1987

[Xildiiid]

Dh!llo Dofaar Ismaciil..

Here you have excerpts from a report written by the Human Rights Watch in 1990.

Using military strikes against civilian targets

The Somali military used artillery and aerial bombardment in heavily populated areas in order to retake Burao and Hargeisa, although there were no SNM combatants there.

U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO), SOMALIA: Observations Regarding the Northern Conflict and Resulting Conditions.

-Under the Geneva convention these types of attacks are indiscriminate and Afweyne, under international law, was obliged to protect civilian lives but he didn't because his goal was to wipe out Isaaq civilians not save them as you can see in the quotation above.

-Here we got another quotation that describes how Afweyne's regime evacuated non Isaaq civilians in order to maximize the death and destruction.

The government used loudspeakers to sort the civilians out into Darood and Isaak. They would shout, ''Who's is from Galkayo? Mogadishu? Las Anod, Garoe?''[Non-Isaak territory]. They appealed to the non-Isaaks to leave so they could burn the town and all those who remained behind. Most of the people from these towns left; the government provided them with transportation.

Human Right Watch - A government at war with its own people.

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Economic punishment and government policies.

-The accounts of an Isaaq businesswoman interviewed by the HRW, who was the manager of Oriental Hotel in Hargeisa and her encounter with Afweyne Barre in Mogadishu after being detained by the NSS simply because her late father's business was profitable.

Eventually, I was taken to see the President. The President started talking politics straight away. He launched into an attack against Isaaks and against me. He had no kind words to say in spite of our ordeal. He commented, ''What you Isaaks deserve is not be detained but shot on the spot after you commit such offenses''. I asked him, ''what have we done?'' I said I was not aware of aything illegal that I had done. He emphasized, again and again, the ''arrogance'' of the Isaaks.

- The quote above reminds me of that humiliation study posted by a former snetter that describes how Afweyne, the former Italian Zaptie not even a real military soldier, felt humiliated at the hands of Isaaq generals trained at the Royal Military Academy of Sandhurst in his early days, which lead to his pathologic hatred for the Isaaq clan. Eventough one can say that all Darood suffer from pathologic hatred because of their inferiority complex nonetheless..

Isaak businessmen, both in the north and in the south, suffered from discriminatory practices. Lines of credit at state banks were severely restricted, which was a major blow to businessmen as there are no private banks in Somalia. No Isaak could participate on equal footing in government tenders. No Isaak could obtain business loans from banks, unless this was facilitated by a non-Isaak crony of the authority.

Isaaks in Mogadishu were also at a severe disadvantage. She describe the example of Hashi Afboor, who tried to obtain money from his bank account in Mogadishu in 1986. He was told he could withdraw the amount he requested on condition that he gave four non-Isaak men the money with which to start business.

Dad gaajo weligood ku noolaa..

In the marketplace in Hargeisa, women who had sewing machines had to pay 10 shillings a day and 3,000 shilling every six months. Even women selling milk did not escape. They paid 10 shillings for the spot on the ground that each container occupied and 3,000 shillings every six months. Of course, all these regulation affected principally the Isaaks. When the odd non-Isaak was affected, once it was established that they were not Isaaks, he or she would be compensated.

HRW - A government at war with its own people.

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The regime's policies

A confidential report from General Morgan to President Barre leaked to the international press in February 1987 detalied the policies that Morgan had been implementing to ''liquadate'' what he referred to as the ''Isaak problem'' and which he was recommending to the president. Te measures spelled out in the letter included confiscating the property of Isaaks and redistributing their wealth; suspending their business licences; freezing the bank accounts of Isaak businessmen and destroying their businesses by giving opportunities to non-Isaaks; purging Isaaks from all sensitive government positions; accelerating the enrollment of the children of the refugees into local schools in order to ensure a ''balance''; relocating villages, destroying water reservoirs and resettling Ethiopian refugees on Isaak territory.

The government had at its disposal, a formidable array of extra-legal sanctions that it used to wage a more subtle kind of political warfare. A system known as ''Isaak Extermination'' (''Dabar Goynta Isaaka'') was put into effect.

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The war against Isaaq nomads

Dabar Goynta Isaaka (''The Isaak Exterminators''), a well-mechanized section of the army which consisted entirely of non Isaaks, widely regarded as one of the most abusive forces engaged in counter-insurgency activities, was responsible for ''dealing'' with the nomads. They, and other branches of the military terrorized the countryside.

In late June or early July 1987, the governor of Las Anod was killed by the SNM. The military demanded that Isaaks civilians living in the region pay 120 camels ''in exchange'', although they had nothing to do with the killing.

Whenever the military suffered a defeat in an encounter with the SNM, they killed some nomads in the area. Then they brought their dead bodies to towns, saying, ''We have killed some Ethiopians - come and see for yourselves''

When confronted by the military, nomads would be extravagantly generous, hoping that would appease their ''guests'' and they would be left in peace. At the end of 1987, some soldiers visited Aw Harrir Nur. He was very hospitable. They repaid him by raping his daughter and ill treating his wife. When he protested, they beat him.

In January 1989, Community Aid Abroad, an Australian agency operating in the Sanaag region reported that:
Widespread massacre occured after 2 soldiers were blown up with a landmine in Elafweyn District. In reprisal the military commander of Sanaag ordered the deaths of 200 nomands. One hundred and three men, women and children were slaughtered the following day.

Nomads arrested in the countryside were brought to Hargeisa to be executed. These poor people would be forced to wear whar the government described as ''SNM uniforms'' and were paraded in the National Theater.

In August 1985, an army truck was blown up on a two mile feeder road that connected the main asphalt road to the military barracks near Arabsiyo. The driver was killed. The army responded with massive retaliation against the residents living within 30 kilometers of the area; many residents were shot, livestock confiscated and many huts butned.

After spending so much money in constructing reservoirs, the owners were often not even allowed to drink from them, never mind their animals. If there were soldiers living in the aream the reservoirs became theirs

HRW - A government at war with its own people.

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Rape as weapon of war,

Rape by soldiers became common. It was particularly frequent in the countryside. Those who could send a daughter out of the country did so.

Often, when they came to search houses, they raped any attractive woman they saw, saying, ''Instead of giving birth to a ''qurmis'', I will force her to have a pro-government bastard. It's better than what they give birth to anyway''. Isaak men would constantly be told, ''Go and get those prostitutes of yours'' - meaning their sisters and daughters.

They would kick the man out of the house and soldiers forced him to remain outside while the women were raped by other soldiers. Just to humiliate the men, they did no even spare the old women. Sometimes women were gang-raped. This is really what made the SNM expand. So many storekeepers, traders and tea shop owners just locked up and left to join the SNM, feeling that they couldn't just sit around watching this happen to their wives daughters, sisters and the relatives of their friends and neighbors.

HRW - A government at war with its own people.

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Destroying the social fabric and basic elements of the society,

It got to a point that the people of the region became invisible, no matter what their qualifications or qualities. They were worse off than foreigners; they became a people with no rights in their own country. Every group was encouraged to watch over the others, as the only way to protect themselves. It destroyed community life. Neighbors became suspicious of each other.

Education deteriorated year after year. After only two hours at schools, the teachers would leave. Those were the conscientious ones. The other simply never turned up. The students could see that both the living confitions and the political situation were getting worse every year. Soldiers came to the schools with the their tanks and fired into the air. Students ran and then they would be arrested and beaten. Those who really could not tolerate the situation left to join the SNM

HRW - A government at war with its own people.

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[Adali]

Withdrew from where? Loool are you stupid or you are regurgitating your household fairy tales.

in my household we do not discuss topics concerning this at all. It is just common sense that the SNM were very hostile against iidoor with wanlawein tendencies, even to this day you call them dirty isaaq and women who are married to men from south you revoke their citizenship of this unrecognised state. During the SNM you just executed these women and took their kids as child soldiers or sex slaves.

I know you have made this topic your life work, but sorry mate not interested in iidoor on iidoor violence.

Do you make up facts as you go and talk shot just for the sake of talking shit. You sound to me as an illiterate faqash punk who grow up on Afweyne welfare.

I wasn't aware Siad Barre(aun) provided welfare to my family, considering we were already wealthy, do you mean the thousands of iidoor he airlifted from their drought stricken destitute region to lush green valleys of Jubaland ? Or perhaps you mean the hundred of thousands of iidoors that had free education and health care for 2 decades thanks to this man ?

nah, I don't make facts up I simply give people a reality check when they take clannism way too far.

[Ben Dover]

considering we were already wealthy

A boon Marehan being wealthy, dont be ridiculous

You leaches have been sucking the coffers of the Somali states dry, all reliable sources confirm as much.

[Adali]

considering we were already wealthy

A boon Marehan being wealthy, dont be ridiculous

You leaches have been sucking the coffers of the Somali states dry, all reliable sources confirm as much.

You know all about sucking things dry, apparently it used to be a family business for the gaalo madows in xeroyinka ciidanka qaranka back in the day.

[Ben Dover]

You know all about sucking things dry, apparently it used to be a family business for the gaalo madows in xeroyinka ciidanka qaranka back in the day.

Dont change the subject, Boon Marehan being wealthy is an oxymoron, your corrupt gaajo ex-hunter-gatherers have never seen a good day before Afweyne. It is well documented.


Your ancestors used to eat dead meat for fucks sake

[X.Playa]

Loool daarood wealthy. The only wealthy daarood who earned his wealth apart from Afweyne government was the late Uun Laaye.

99% of Daarood made their wealth through political corruption. Even now 30 years later 99% of wealthy business men are either Isaaq or Hawiye. Daarood are still waiting for another daddy Afweyne to bankroll them.

[smartyt]

Xplayer is the first iidoor on snet to admit to snm murder of iidoor civilians whom worked for the state.
Very few iidoor initially supported the terrorists........it wasn't until the snm began using human shields and the resulting collateral damage to propagandize ordinary iidoor to flee to Ethiopia.

He is so funny he claims pro kacaan idoor were gunned down just for the fun of it