Somalilanders come in

[SteadyState]

I just just told you, anyone whose family resided in somaliland June 26, 1960 and before that are considered somaliland citizens basically the original tribes of somaliland June 26, 1960 at the time of independence and before then.

any person who is a patrial[10] of Somaliland being a descendant of a person residing in Somaliland on 26th June 1960 or earlier  shall be recognised as a citizen of Somaliland.

2.   The law[11] shall determine the acquisition or loss of the citizenship of Somaliland.

How will this work in light of the large number of refugees Somaliland has taken from Yemen and Syria? Surely an amendment needs to be made to that constitution to give a reasonable roadway for citizenship to their children and their descendants.

[sahal80]

As state structure, PL has less centralized authority than SL. Puntland has regional-based system where each gobol is located for a portion of mps for example bari 21 seats, sool iyo sanaag 26, others 5 per each out of 65 seats...this system gives a political monopoly to one subclan who can easily secure the majority vote (maybe 32/33) and wants to apply this philosophy to somalia!

yeey as a military man was closer to establish stronger institutions in PL by establishing the dervish forces as the traditional army in the state but they got exhausted in his TFG war so adde muse has established his own birmad forces who may have received logistics as security forces wich will futher marginalize the dervish army

Then you got farooles UAE-funded marine police

The war in galgala has proven the importance of the traditional dervish forces so gaas has been concentrating on them...their salaries havent been sorted out yet but he did paid them a couple of times

Qaldaans r good at governance and management but not good politicians and diplomats...gulf countries lose about $10bn per year on fighting piracy so the UAE was organizing a counter piracy conferences...farole has worked before in the UAE and knows them closely so he made some promotional contracts with them and benefited from these programs

Farole is behind PLs foreign relations and image as stable region using as well TFG mechanism such as the galkacyo agreement 2010 wich allocates PL 25 percent of the foreign scholarship, bosaso airport was one of them but they did not get the parliaments approval...garowe consultative road map conferences, somali women conference including djibouti! Somali regional football tournaments! All these activities have atracted the diplomats!

Mogadishu sources say he's trying to retake back his position pushing gaas to find his chance in xamar by 2016 elections so they r doing every thing to avoid this by cooperating with gaas and supporting his economic priorities.

PL police receives now foreing funds as part of the federal police..3000 PL dervish to be incorporated in the SNA and i think this will be their financial solution.

https://horseedmedia.net/2015/10/01/mar ... ska-video/

[mahoka]

sahal the mooryan said "Qaldaans r good at governance and management but not good politicians and diplomats"
how can you be good at governance but not be good at politics. Are hutu this stupid

[Thuganomics]

sahal the mooryan said "Qaldaans r good at governance and management but not good politicians and diplomats"
how can you be good at governance but not be good at politics.

Makes no sense whatsoever

[Siciid85]

They are about 1200 troops in PL who have such equipment, the bulk of their militias wear regular fatigues. Basically everyone from Kismaayo to Somaliland has similar equipment. I personally not concerned with how our troops dress us, the question is, can they fight? Short answer is Hell yeah

[mahoka]

They are about 1200 troops in PL who have such equipment, the bulk of their militias wear regular fatigues. Basically everyone from Kismaayo to Somaliland has similar equipment. I personally not concerned with how our troops dress us, the question is, can they fight? Short answer is Hell yeah

fire power is the most concerning thing

[theyuusuf143]

Sahalaw dawladnimada dhanba waxaad u haysataa weel dawladaha kale lagu tuugsado. adigu waxad siyaasi fiican u taqaan hadba ninkii meelo badan soo tuugsada ee wax lasoo siiyo. Dalkaaga horumarintiisa iyo difaaciisa ayaad dilaal ka dayeysaa. imika tusaale ahaan yadoo Somaliland ay kutaal gacanka cadmeed ee maraakiibtoo dhan Marto hadana weligeed falburcad badeednimo kama dhicin xitaa xabashidu lugbay Ku tagaan Bosaso

si ay uga tahriibaan because meel wadankayaga dad laga tahriibin karaa kumaba taal degmo kasta Ciidanka ilaalada xeebaha dagan, Waxa kaloo ay la dagaalamaan Koontara baanka. mushaharka yar ee aanu siinay waxaasoo hawla Ku qabtaan. Dhigooda xamar iyo Bosaso jooga ee malaayiinka dollar lagu bixiyey maxay qabteen?? muhiimadu maaha in qalab iyo lacag bilaasha la iska siiyo muhiimadu waa inay wax qabtaan.

[sahal80]

sahal the mooryan said "Qaldaans r good at governance and management but not good politicians and diplomats"
how can you be good at governance but not be good at politics. Are hutu this stupid

your post itself shows how undiplomatic and qaldaan you are!

Governance is not the same as politics and diplomacy, governance is about the mechanisms and the method of governing whether its a government, network, company...a good mayor is not much different than a good company manager(policy governance)...this is some thing earned by education and since waqooyis had more secular education they adopted a mix of westren governance and traditional clan....

Politics: the art of the possible! Al siyasa fan al momkin!

What if you refuse the possible? This is what PL do as you can see in my previous link...how many millions your national planning ministry rejected to take it from the african bank wich could have been used for education or employment opportunities? Politics r not about whats right and what's wrong so don't come to me and say i will never... lol

Diplomacy not far from the politics.. its the art of dealing with the nation's...no nation will help you without having interests in you be it political or economical interests. Does SLs strategic location reflect its regional and world relations?

Forget about building relations and watch this destructive speech by the chairman of the ruling party calling erdogan "a cawaan" when theres a turkish consulate and turkish humanitarian activities!!
http://www.medeshivalley.com/2014/04/tu ... pDoHdZFDqA

http://calankamedia.com/?nid=32567

[original dervish]

Sahal is clearly right......S/L has had relative peace for decades and yet has made almost no progress internationally.
Even the east of the region is in a constant state of flux.....if that aine enough evidence for a lack of political and diplomatic competence I don't know what is.

[LobsterUnit]

War aabihi wasayankan jaanjaan-ka ayaa ka qabta meesha . Labo topig bu u furay isla sheekadi . Kii horaa lagu jawaabi waayay , mid kaloo haddena dib u furay . Qudhun yaroo keligii koris ah baad tahay warye , waxba ha ina waraysan inaga, orodoo Somaliland ugu tag sua'asha ilayn waxba ka garan mayside shabakad dhan bay ku leedahay xagaa iyo midigta !

[mahoka]

sahal the mooryan said "Qaldaans r good at governance and management but not good politicians and diplomats"
how can you be good at governance but not be good at politics. Are hutu this stupid

your post itself shows how undiplomatic and qaldaan you are!

Governance is not the same as politics and diplomacy, governance is about the mechanisms and the method of governing whether its a government, network, company...a good mayor is not much different than a good company manager(policy governance)...this is some thing earned by education and since waqooyis had more secular education they adopted a mix of westren governance and traditional clan....

Politics: the art of the possible! Al siyasa fan al momkin!

What if you refuse the possible? This is what PL do as you can see in my previous link...how many millions your national planning ministry rejected to take it from the african bank wich could have been used for education or employment opportunities? Politics r not about whats right and what's wrong so don't come to me and say i will never... lol

Diplomacy not far from the politics.. its the art of dealing with the nation's...no nation will help you without having interests in you be it political or economical interests. Does SLs strategic location reflect its regional and world relations?

Forget about building relations and watch this destructive speech by the chairman of the ruling party calling erdogan "a cawaan" when theres a turkish consulate and turkish humanitarian activities!!
http://www.medeshivalley.com/2014/04/tu ... pDoHdZFDqA

http://calankamedia.com/?nid=32567

calling someone cawaan isn't diplomatic incompetence. We have members of the ruling party in the UK and members of the cabinet actively and publicly campaigning against the EU despite the PM seeking allies in EU for reforms.

Your understanding of politics is very simplistic and not surprising since most wanlawein are less educated then your average somalilander, Politics is a complex system of problem solving while creating the least number of problem along the way. Your idea of politics is clan A is president thus clan A is the most powerful or Clan A term then Clan B term. The world simply doesn't work like that. In Africa, there are 54 countries and majority of them are on the verge of starvation like wanlawein, it is more harder to get recognition. Similarly in the 90's internal conflict resolution politics was at play in Somaliland so no one focus on International recognition. Somaliland has built from the base up while wanlawein want to build a shanty town and call it a factoring society. In essence Somaliland has started thinking about recognition only since 2008, before that was perfecting internal matters.

pols101 states that politics is everywhere, there is politics in your family. mooryan haven't got out of clan politics yet and that is why they are still killing each other and have been doing so for the last 30 years. The most politically developed people in the former somali republic pulled out (somalilanders) and no one has filled the gap yet

[theyuusuf143]

All the south Mogadishu+Puntland+jubaland. Government budgets combined is less than Somaliland budget. that shows Aid contributes nothing if you don't have your own Revenues.

[mahoka]

All the south Mogadishu+Puntland+jubaland. Government budgets combined is less than Somaliland budget. that shows Aid contributes nothing if you don't have your own Revenues.

sad truth

[Xildiiid]

sahal the mooryan said "Qaldaans r good at governance and management but not good politicians and diplomats"
how can you be good at governance but not be good at politics. Are hutu this stupid

your post itself shows how undiplomatic and qaldaan you are!

Governance is not the same as politics and diplomacy, governance is about the mechanisms and the method of governing whether its a government, network, company...a good mayor is not much different than a good company manager(policy governance)...this is some thing earned by education and since waqooyis had more secular education they adopted a mix of westren governance and traditional clan....

Politics: the art of the possible! Al siyasa fan al momkin!

What if you refuse the possible? This is what PL do as you can see in my previous link...how many millions your national planning ministry rejected to take it from the african bank wich could have been used for education or employment opportunities? Politics r not about whats right and what's wrong so don't come to me and say i will never... lol

Diplomacy not far from the politics.. its the art of dealing with the nation's...no nation will help you without having interests in you be it political or economical interests. Does SLs strategic location reflect its regional and world relations?

Forget about building relations and watch this destructive speech by the chairman of the ruling party calling erdogan "a cawaan" when theres a turkish consulate and turkish humanitarian activities!!
http://www.medeshivalley.com/2014/04/tu ... pDoHdZFDqA

http://calankamedia.com/?nid=32567

calling someone cawaan isn't diplomatic incompetence. We have members of the ruling party in the UK and members of the cabinet actively and publicly campaigning against the EU despite the PM seeking allies in EU for reforms.

Your understanding of politics is very simplistic and not surprising since most wanlawein are less educated then your average somalilander, Politics is a complex system of problem solving while creating the least number of problem along the way. Your idea of politics is clan A is president thus clan A is the most powerful or Clan A term then Clan B term. The world simply doesn't work like that. In Africa, there are 54 countries and majority of them are on the verge of starvation like wanlawein, it is more harder to get recognition. Similarly in the 90's internal conflict resolution politics was at play in Somaliland so no one focus on International recognition. Somaliland has built from the base up while wanlawein want to build a shanty town and call it a factoring society. In essence Somaliland has started thinking about recognition only since 2008, before that was perfecting internal matters.

pols101 states that politics is everywhere, there is politics in your family. mooryan haven't got out of clan politics yet and that is why they are still killing each other and have been doing so for the last 30 years. The most politically developed people in the former somali republic pulled out (somalilanders) and no one has filled the gap yet

He's a southern Gudhuu! Waraabe dont waste your breath on Walaweyn trash whose legal guardians are none other than disease infested AMISOM troops.

[mahoka]

Thing is sahal calls himself a political analysis but his understanding of politics is very weird and almost child like.