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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:Lol anyone who believes in Isaaq,Darood or Sheikh Hawiye are focking delusional.The sons of Abokor who are majority of SM are e1b1b while Cisse musse and langaab makaahil are T.While noble Ciidigalle and gaajo yoonis are T.I have seen one HJ on ftdna and he is very close in str to Abokor SM and is E-V32.

Stick your Isaaqnimo up your asses! Science has broken its back! The HJ and SM has a blood bond while Garxajis are basically Dir with the other langaab HA clans.Truth is a hard pill to swallow

sheegato alert :!:
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Ben Dover wrote:The Arab myth is long dead and -I hope, buried.

Much of the split of Isaaq at subclan level is news to me, I had been peaking at the infamous spreadsheet every now and then in hopes of it being updated but it seems like that is an abandoned project. On it I could see Isaaq as predominantly E-V32 with a single HY result that was T hence my reluctance to file GX under HG-T. It seems you are more up to date with members' results here on the forum, do you keep a tally of published results on Somalinet? How about Dir results? Any discernible trends you could point to?
Bro, several folk got tested during the first DNA craze on Somalinet around six years ago, the OP was one of them along with other Garxajis and Habar Awal (Abokoor Sacad) members. Not all results were shared on the main but a quick exchange with LH, Sahan-Galbeed, Siciid, Skippa and other Snet old timers will confirm what I have told you. More recently, you have had Lancer (E1b1b), CasualFarah (T), Jugjugwacwac (T), Kiddmo (T). If you combine those who took the test in the first craze and the more recent round of tests, one will notice a trend developing like I highlighted in my previous post. Habar Jeclo are a mystery to me, I have been informed that both E1b1b and T haplogroup carriers can be found among them on 23andme but it is hard to notice a trend if you do not possess their subclan info.

Another method of obtaining data is to ask people on 23andme what the clan identities of their DNA relatives are and their HG. For instance, I was able to find out thanks to CasualFarah and Itrah that you have Habar Awal haplogroup T carriers. Nonetheless, I am not in the league of Awale when it comes to gathering data. To call me an amateur would be an exaggeration and an insult to him, I am too lazy to keep a log lol.

As for Dir results, one has to be specific. Only Djiboutians and to a lesser extent Dire Dawans have been academically tested. They were found to be overwhelmingly HG-T. Nonetheless, were the people sampled in Dire Dawa from all Ciise subclans? Were Gurguras also tested? How many Samaroon or Habar Awal were included in the Djiboutian sample? You will never run out of questions lol. On 23andme, several people have stated that apart from the Isaaq, their other HG-T relatives are either Samaroon, Ciise, Surre Dirs. However, that is not sufficient to assume with confidence that Dir are overwhelmingly haplogroup T because Biimal, Gurre, Quranyow, Gurgura, Bajimal etc have not been tested. I can say with relative certainty that my Surre subclan appears to be mainly haplogroup T but I cannot say the same for other Southern Dir subclans.
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Very interesting!

An opportunity to capitalise on that first wave of DNA results was missed; it could've led to an online database, a hub if you like for Somali DNA results gathering along clan and subclan lines.

When I look at my DNA relatives on 23andme, apart from Isaaqs, I seem to be only related to Dhulbahantes and Warsangelis. This is all very interesting.
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N89476 Habarjeclo Somalia E-M35 12 25 11 10 16-17 11 12 12 13 12 31
N111951 SacadMuuse Somalia E-L117 12 24 11 10 16-18 11 12 11 13 12 30

E-L117 just means the guy didn't take the test to confirm he is v32(he is v32 like most horners).HJ and SM are indeed blood brothers.The only ones hating on this idea were garxajis dir who obviously have a bone to pick with both SM,HJ.SM,HJ and some Kuwaiti dude are the closest to each other in regards to str results.

due to these reults and the idea that I'm more closer to a Darood/Hawiye then gaajo yoonis really reshaped my mind when it comes to politics. But for now :sland: :up:
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WardenOfTheNorth wrote:N89476 Habarjeclo Somalia E-M35 12 25 11 10 16-17 11 12 12 13 12 31
N111951 SacadMuuse Somalia E-L117 12 24 11 10 16-18 11 12 11 13 12 30

E-L117 just means the guy didn't take the test to confirm he is v32(he is v32 like most horners).HJ and SM are indeed blood brothers.The only ones hating on this idea were garxajis dir who obviously have a bone to pick with both SM,HJ.SM,HJ and some Kuwaiti dude are the closest to each other in regards to str results.

due to these reults and the idea that I'm more closer to a Darood/Hawiye then gaajo yoonis really reshaped my mind when it comes to politics. But for now :sland: :up:
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GubanOgoHawdJSL wrote:
WardenOfTheNorth wrote:Isaaq is a confederation like Hawiye if you like it or not.Y-DNA has proven Garxajis are T like Dir(Cisse and those lowborns in Awdal) while Sacad Muuse and HJ are E1b1b with very close str results.Sacad Muuse and HJ are indeed genetic brothers mashallah
OK kulmiye . :lol:
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all isaaq must have same dna result ..because thay are form 1 father >>
dna is for father blood line
thats mean no matter who is the mather
then
shaikh isaag bin Ahmed dna will be E or T
if the result above correct
some body will be sheegato and not reel isaaq
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Hangool,

There's a lot of sheegato/troll in the past week. I guess they no longer approve members.

I also know ben dover or whatever and the north troll are the same person.
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AwRastaale wrote:Hangool,

There's a lot of sheegato/troll in the past week. I guess they no longer approve members.

I also know ben dover or whatever and the north troll are the same person.
Sheegato?

Look at your joining date and then look at mine, hooyada siilkeedaa sheegato ah.
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