Isaaq Historians Come in

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

I recently had the fortune of speaking with a Habar Awal elder and he was telling me about general subclan history. He made an interesting point about the mothers of Habr Magaadle and Habr Habusho. He said that Magaado (the mother of Habr Magaadle) was not from the Magaadle clan but just had that name out of coincidence. He said also that Habr Habusho's mother was not a Habishiyad but a Somali woman named Habuusho. An example would be Abu Sufyans wife, Hind, who was obviously not from India. A personal example would be my great aunt who was called Burco, but was neither from there nor had she ever went to that city.

What do you guys think?

[theyuusuf143]

Does he believe in Dir. If not tell him to phuk off.

[X.Playa]

Does he believe in Dir. If not tell him to phuk off.

Who believes in Dir but you.

Of course Magaado was Somali form the Magaadle tribe that still lives in Sanaag region, as to her original name , probably its lost like 99% of all Somali clan matriarchs . Habar Xabuush's name was Xiis ( hence the port of Xiis) also the original name of Shariifo was lost also.

[theyuusuf143]

Waar murtadyahaw horta buugii daraawiishta ma dhamaysay, kolayba Hargeisa kuma Soo bandhigi karid oo Dhagax baa lagugu dilayaaye bahalka dhaamee hada, Gaalyahaw kollayba waari mayside war haka hadhee. Oo sayidka been haka sheegin inaanu ilaahay cadaabta kuugu fogayn.

Qoomiyada direed Nin carabnimo iyo bloodline ka qoyska nebi maxamed u waashay uuunbaa diidan.

[X.Playa]

Waar murtadyahaw horta buugii daraawiishta ma dhamaysay, kolayba Hargeisa kuma Soo bandhigi karid oo Dhagax baa lagugu dilayaaye bahalka dhaamee hada, Gaalyahaw kollayba waari mayside war haka hadhee. Oo sayidka been haka sheegin inaanu ilaahay cadaabta kuugu fogayn.

Qoomiyada direed Nin carabnimo iyo bloodline ka qoyska nebi maxamed u waashay uuunbaa diidan.

Isaaq ina Carro sayid uga yeedha anigu garan maayee malaa hooyadaa bu Sayid u ahaa.

[theyuusuf143]

Adeer dee waa Ku sidee, dumaashidaa lama caayo. I was just bullying your legs. Haygu talax tegin.

[X.Playa]

sawdigan sida dhilooyinka u habaartamaya dadkana caayaya , imika murtad baad qof ku leeday , murtad ma amaan baa?? iyo ina cabdulle xasan ood leeday sayid ood na dhigaysid nin awliyo ah. fudaydka habar jeclo horta ma dhamaado miyaa ma ilaa awow ka awow buu idinku jirayaa?

[theyuusuf143]

sawdigan sida dhilooyinka u habaartamaya dadkana caayaya , imika murtad baad qof ku leeday , murtad ma amaan baa?? iyo ina cabdulle xasan ood leeday sayid ood na dhigaysid nin awliyo ah. fudaydka habar jeclo horta ma dhamaado miyaa ma ilaa awow ka awow buu idinku jirayaa?

Oo murtad saw ma tihid iyo gaalba, sawdigan ilaaha yar daaqada saartay. Maanaa moodi jirayba inaad ka xanaaqdo. Bal xaal qaado hoostaad Islam ka tahay hadaabad murtad ka xanaaqayside. Eeg adeer yara xagjir baad tahee you know I respect you.

[X.Playa]

sawdigan sida dhilooyinka u habaartamaya dadkana caayaya , imika murtad baad qof ku leeday , murtad ma amaan baa?? iyo ina cabdulle xasan ood leeday sayid ood na dhigaysid nin awliyo ah. fudaydka habar jeclo horta ma dhamaado miyaa ma ilaa awow ka awow buu idinku jirayaa?

Oo murtad saw ma tihid iyo gaalba, sawdigan ilaaha yar daaqada saartay. Maanaa moodi jirayba inaad ka xanaaqdo. Bal xaal qaado hoostaad Islam ka tahay hadaabad murtad ka xanaaqayside. Eeg adeer yara xagjir baad tahee you know I respect you.

Dee hadaad diintiina ku caytantaan oo marka afar madfac futada laydin ka galiyana cabaadaan Maxamed iyo Islam baa wax laga sheegay side baa horta qoladiinan Gusska iyo Dhagaxa carabta caabuda looga gar helaa?

[kanadiid90]

no body believes in DIR thing yuusef it was more political than lineage. If we were Dir how come no body knows the abtirsi for dir and how we are related to the cisse, samaroon, biyomaal etc like the way we know isaaq lineage.

I heard from elders that previous isaaqs didnt marry from samaron, why would they do such a thing if we were cousins? old isaaqs never claimed Dir so why should we now

[MujahidAishah]

no body believes in DIR thing yuusef it was more political than lineage. If we were Dir how come no body knows the abtirsi for dir and how we are related to the cisse, samaroon, biyomaal etc like the way we know isaaq lineage.

I heard from elders that previous isaaqs didnt marry from samaron, why would they do such a thing if we were cousins? old isaaqs never claimed Dir so why should we now

I agree

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Isaaq is a confederation like Hawiye if you like it or not.Y-DNA has proven Garxajis are T like Dir(Cisse and those lowborns in Awdal) while Sacad Muuse and HJ are E1b1b with very close str results.Sacad Muuse and HJ are indeed genetic brothers mashallah

[JSL3000]

Does he believe in Dir. If not tell him to phuk off.

We are not dir we are isaaq watch out if reer xamar catch u saying that they will refer to you as dirty waqooyi.

[JSL3000]

Isaaq is a confederation like Hawiye if you like it or not.Y-DNA has proven Garxajis are T like Dir(Cisse and those lowborns in Awdal) while Sacad Muuse and HJ are E1b1b with very close str results.Sacad Muuse and HJ are indeed genetic brothers mashallah

OK kulmiye .

[X.Playa]

Isaaq is a confederation like Hawiye if you like it or not.Y-DNA has proven Garxajis are T like Dir(Cisse and those lowborns in Awdal) while Sacad Muuse and HJ are E1b1b with very close str results.Sacad Muuse and HJ are indeed genetic brothers mashallah

proof??????