Legal arguments against Somaliland?

[Bermooda]

Xildiiid so why is SL still stuck in the union 23 years later if you claim it never was part of the "your slam dunk legal case* Union?

[Xildiiid]

Because our leaders are too stupid and they have no vision but that's going to change..

[SultanOrder]

Xil this is the first I'm ever hearing of annexation, minda show ba inoo dhigaysa

[HusseinHassan]

Lol what a big fat waste of time! The issue has and never will be was there a union, because there was and we have 31 years of that Union. The question is what will be the new relationship for the two entities. How that will be decided is yet to be seen but I guarantee you no one will waste their time arguing about 1960.

It wasn't a union.

Somalia annexed Somaliland just like Haile Selassie annexed Eritrea.

why are you distorting history?
the somali clans in the former british-somaliland protectorate, individually chose to unite with the other somali
clans in the former italian-somaliland protectorate.
just like the british came in 1884, into a land of nomadic somalis with no single governance or entity; so did the
british left in 1960, leaving the somali tribes just like he found them in 1884, each clan ruling himself.

[SultanOrder]

It wasn't a union.

Somalia annexed Somaliland just like Haile Selassie annexed Eritrea.

No one annexed anyone but Xamar became the capitol of the new Somali Republic.

What Somaliland is trying to do is trying to annex territory belonging to the Somali Republic.

Like I said this legal mumbo jumbo doesn't matter. Somaliland is here to stay but, in what form will be decided by all of us.

What you're saying is that the "Somali republic" got more right to Somaliland than Somaliland got to her own regions? That's f-king ridiculous.

Btw, there's no such thing as Somali republic. Your country is called the federal republic of Somalia while my country is called the republic of Somaliland.

Yes they do, and the people in the eastern parts support this. The only thing to your advantage is that Somalia is in a weakened state, but if it wasn't, I'd be surprised if half of your somaliland didn't break away from you guys.

Don't waste your time the FSG is the same as Somali Republic and legally recognized as so.

[Khalid Ali]

Lol what a big fat waste of time! The issue has and never will be was there a union, because there was and we have 31 years of that Union. The question is what will be the new relationship for the two entities. How that will be decided is yet to be seen but I guarantee you no one will waste their time arguing about 1960.

It wasn't a union.

Somalia annexed Somaliland just like Haile Selassie annexed Eritrea.

why are you distorting history?
the somali clans in the former british-somaliland protectorate, individually chose to unite with the other somali
clans in the former italian-somaliland protectorate.
just like the british came in 1884, into a land of nomadic somalis with no single governance or entity; so did the
british left in 1960, leaving the somali tribes just like he found them in 1884, each clan ruling himself.

No the British left a parliament 3 political parties a legal constitution a governance and police and Militarily officers all in all a state

And another thing Italian Somalia was not a protectorate it was a colony in all aspects

Somaliland was annexed when SL rejected the Somali constitution and the walanweyns enforced it because they had the political power followed by the Somaliland coup of Hassan kayd in 1961

[Xildiiid]

Xil this is the first I'm ever hearing of annexation, minda show ba inoo dhigaysa

It seems you can't accept the truth.

[SecretAgent]

Half million dhulos died for somali unity hargeisa,burco,berbera can leave if they want ssc remains

[Xildiiid]

Yes they do, and the people in the eastern parts support this. The only thing to your advantage is that Somalia is in a weakened state, but if it wasn't, I'd be surprised if half of your somaliland didn't break away from you guys.

Don't waste your time the FSG is the same as Somali Republic and legally recognized as so.

I'm from the eastern regions you're talking about and I oppose Somalia to the fullest. You can't generalize entire communities, however there are some people who oppose SL out of sheer clanism but they're defeated. They're roaming the Ethiopian wilderness trying to figure out what went wrong while our soldiers are now patrolling the border we have with Somalia.

For arguments sake even if Somalia wasn't a weak state there's nothing she could do about SL.

FSG is not even the equivalent of the Somali republic let alone the "same thing". The Somali republic was based on irredentism and the idea of uniting all Somali territories. The FSG doesn't claim NFD nor does it claim Zone 5 nor Djibouti so the question is why does it claim Somaliland?

[Xildiiid]

Half million dhulos died for somali unity hargeisa,burco,berbera can leave if they want ssc remains

What Somali unity? The concept of a united Somali state didn't exist at that time.

They were murdered by the terrorist Mad Mullah and British records from that time period prove that more than 15.000 Dhulbahante families sought refuge in places such as Berbera, Sheikh, Burco etc.

[whitehartlane]

Horta isaaqow maskaxdiina ka saara in marna sool sanaag iyo cayn inila go'ayaan.. taasi marna maba dhacayso..its already recognised as an disbuted region within a disputed region. The demographs of somalia is well known, somaliland is a tribal cause that advocates for reer isaaq only, no shame in there. However, those that do the recognising thingy know fully what's behind the curtain.

Bal waxaad ku fakaraysaan qabuuraha daarood ayaan goosanayna because of jaamac siyaad iyo baharsame..

Walle waad kaftamaysaan. Irregardless of the current politics seperating puntland and somalilands all out war.. let alone harti lands most likely if u do ever gain recognition which I hope you do, awdal will most likely join djibouti.

Iidoorku waa nacas, nin kale ayay doonayaan dhulkiisa in uu ku qabsado hadana wuxuu ku fakaraya in uu nabad barwaaqo iyo daris wanaag ay kuwada noolaadaan..war heedhe reer laascanood iyo ku yaro afar jeebla mid na kuma siin karo sool sanaag iyo cayn..

Not that its going to happen but Dr yalaxow may not recognise you but I will just out of sheer curiousity of where you will end up..

[Xildiiid]

Isaaq inhabit Sool and Sanaag. There's no such thing as Cayn, the term was originally used to what's today called Saraar or Caynaba district and I'm from that district among other districts in SL. How can someone who doesn't inhabit these regions have the audacity to debate where these regions should or should not belong?


I've seen how you write a lot of nonsense on this forum from time to time. I suggest you either disprove the original statements on page 1 or that you don't hijack the thread.

[HusseinHassan]

Horta isaaqow maskaxdiina ka saara in marna sool sanaag iyo cayn inila go'ayaan.. taasi marna maba dhacayso..its already recognised as an disbuted region within a disputed region. The demographs of somalia is well known, somaliland is a tribal cause that advocates for reer isaaq only, no shame in there. However, those that do the recognising thingy know fully what's behind the curtain.

Bal waxaad ku fakaraysaan qabuuraha daarood ayaan goosanayna because of jaamac siyaad iyo baharsame..

Walle waad kaftamaysaan. Irregardless of the current politics seperating puntland and somalilands all out war.. let alone harti lands most likely if u do ever gain recognition which I hope you do, awdal will most likely join djibouti.

Iidoorku waa nacas, nin kale ayay doonayaan dhulkiisa in uu ku qabsado hadana wuxuu ku fakaraya in uu nabad barwaaqo iyo daris wanaag ay kuwada noolaadaan..war heedhe reer laascanood iyo ku yaro afar jeebla mid na kuma siin karo sool sanaag iyo cayn..

Not that its going to happen but Dr yalaxow may not recognise you but I will just out of sheer curiousity of where you will end up..

lol their stupidity knows no bounds.
they remind me of the zionists and how deliberate they are in claiming other people's homes and lands
while simultaneously calling out for peaceful co-existence.
but, truth be told, the problem isn't really isaaq.
the problem is the man [darod] whose land is being taken and not lifting a finger to defend it, instead moves his tongue [talk].

[Xildiiid]

Are we claiming Las Caanood, Laas Qoray, Badhan etc. as our cities or are we simply stating the truth which is these cities are part of the republic of Somaliland just like Borama and Seylac, non Isaaq cities, are part of the republic of Somaliland.

We don't have the Walaweyn culture of claiming other peoples land, the Jubba valley and the Shabeelle valley being enough proof.

[Kukri]

. However, those that do the recognising thingy know fully what's behind the curtain.

And what's behind the curtain is qabuuraha Daarood and that's why the West will not recognise SL.

lool

Whether Somaliland is recognised or not is a matter that you will have no say in it.

Ma mar bah adi wax alga weydiin?

Taleex miyaana lagugu iman adigoo booweda hay a oo tawheedkii dushaada lalga lulin?