Northeastern State Declared: GMS & SWS welcome

[Sharmarke91]

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SLAND accepting what, are u trolling? YES! when these figures were made public SLAND didn't react and dispute them like puntland did, your previous information minister (cukuse) held a press conference but didn't explicitly state that they did not agree with the estimates, so we can only assume they support these numbers.
That inflated "estimation" won't change the reality on the ground.






There is a good reason Erigavo had an Isaaq mayor for well over 20 year. The only reason why ceerigaabo was dominated by isaaqs in the last 20 years is because SLAND controlled it am not disputing that. We controlled it when we daaroods controlled the whole of somalia; as your quotes mention, it doest mean there is more isaaqs residing in the city.

There is no need to argue about Sanaag when we dominate the largest & second
largest districts of the region. Good luck claiming the whole of Sanaag with cato Badhan district.

your obviously being fooled by the map, badhan district is larger in area then ceel ufweyn sxb, get that in your head.
as for ceerigabo district let the following map settle it.

http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.in ... abo_A3.pdf (ceerigabo district)

isaaqs inhabit the lands west of the road from sool-awrbogays-kulal-fiqifuliye-masagan-ceerigabo. then north from cerigaabo the clan borders are midhisho-hamaas-karin tuurwaa -to the coast. just look how small your side of the district is you stupid muppet.




As for Buhodle, it's a small town on the border, no need for research just google
the town or qashin day and you'd know instantly that tuullo in nowhere near Gabiely or Berbera.
kkkkk
BUUHOODLE FROM 500M:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Boh ... 46.3386154

GABILEY FROM 500M:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Geb ... 43.6327326

SEE FOR YOURSELF WHICH IS BIGGER.






I like how you compared Ceerigabo to Buuhoodle as you already
know deep down the majority there but still brought it up in the beginning for the sake of futile argument.

As long as we live in the district we'll dispute it as well. Qorilgud, Bears and Qabri Huluul are Isaaq you dumb ass. LMAO beyras and Qabri huluul dont exist you idiot, waa dhul banaan ama camps, dhulos inhabit baliga galgal literaly 2.8km away from qorilugud adna meelo kala ka hadlasaye
Dhulos can claim their town in Burco district, this will make our mission even easier turning the whole thing from
SSC to SST (Sool, Sanaag and Togdheer) with Burco's population density added to the equation it's a confirmed TKO.
HADA LAGA BILAABO CAYNABA IYO BURCOBA ANAA LEH MAR HADI TUULOOYIN LA TIRSANAYO



All in all, they're under our flag today.


Stick with Liido beach Cambulu boy.

[Sharmarke91]

I always laugh at how Issaqs can argue about the indivisibility of SL when it is apparent that the non Issaqs of SL are opposed to the secession. These same Issaqs then in the same breath will argue for secession. Why not secede the territories that are prounion?

Nice try but Somaliland is not successionist state it was independent state before italia somalia and it joined voluntary union with italia somalia 1960 a union that was never ratified and both courts of two independent states which made the union remain illegal from the start. In 1969 afweyne torn the fake union constitution to shreds and in 91 after the state collapsed the union was completely dissolved and somaliland redeclared there sovereignty once more and till this day thereturn is no match and if hawiye have problem with that I suggest they fight but don't support minorities to take a bullet for faqash somaliwayn dream that died in the sixties and seventies that's quite unrealistic.

Somaliland protectorate gained its independence in 1960 from Britain under the condition that it would join the trust territory of Somaliland (Italian Somaliland). Therefore the union of the two entities was not voluntary and never needed to be ratified, since on the part of the British administered territory it was a requirement from the British government for it to unify with italian somaliland or remain a British protectorate.

I wonder why this fact is never mentioned by pro somaliland folks. kkkk

[Rambie]

Talk about desperate repetition, estimations were rejected by SLAND as well.
They've also said they're gonna make a census for Hargiesa to prove that it's bigger than Xamar (though unlikely)

Anyhow, the map is in front of your eyes, Badhan district could easily be fold inside Ceel Afwayen & with plenty of change in return. Am glad you finally accepted Erigavo's statues an Isaaq town, you're a minority there sxb.



But as far as the district is concerned, you could see that most towns are in the north of which we dominate. 95% of Erigavo district coast is in under the control of Isaaq Waqdaria is right next to Badhan distict border. However when the line goes down it goes to the left. Still from Waqdaria to Karin to Kulmiyi going down all the way to Darawayne is Isaaq territory.

BTW do you know how to use Google Maps? Although I don't consider it as a reliable tool to measure towns
but the links you've provided shows that Gabiely is much larger than Buuhoodle. Maybe you should Zoomout to 1KM
in order to have a better prospect. I have the feeling you though that small neighborhood in eastern Gabiely is the town itself
and rushed here to receive your long overdue L.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Boh ... 46.3386154

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Geb ... 43.6327326




As for our lands there, yes we can claim it town and water wells why not? You're the one who lay
unsubstantial claims on 2 regions + one district. Why not claiming the whole Toghdeer instead of picking
Buuhoodle district and renaming it Cayn, why not going after Xildiban or whatever your town is in Togdeer.
Do you know why? cos you're severely outnumbered with that move hence why you're content with only Buuhoodle district.
Unlike you, I am not afraid to claim my lands especially with the'Sool Sanaag & Cayn' bullshit airing everywhere.

Tough luck with the Hutu's 2 regions rule. You're stuck with us and can never make any regions be it SSC, Khatumoo, Makhiir or even the new North East.

[JSL3000]

I always laugh at how Issaqs can argue about the indivisibility of SL when it is apparent that the non Issaqs of SL are opposed to the secession. These same Issaqs then in the same breath will argue for secession. Why not secede the territories that are prounion?

Nice try but Somaliland is not successionist state it was independent state before italia somalia and it joined voluntary union with italia somalia 1960 a union that was never ratified and both courts of two independent states which made the union remain illegal from the start. In 1969 afweyne torn the fake union constitution to shreds and in 91 after the state collapsed the union was completely dissolved and somaliland redeclared there sovereignty once more and till this day thereturn is no match and if hawiye have problem with that I suggest they fight but don't support minorities to take a bullet for faqash somaliwayn dream that died in the sixties and seventies that's quite unrealistic.

Somaliland protectorate gained its independence in 1960 from Britain under the condition that it would join the trust territory of Somaliland (Italian Somaliland). Therefore the union of the two entities was not voluntary and never needed to be ratified, since on the part of the British administered territory it was a requirement from the British government for it to unify with italian somaliland or remain a British protectorate.

I wonder why this fact is never mentioned by pro somaliland folks. kkkk

Actually that's false Somaliland gaining its independence on June 26th is what helped italiana somalia gained it independence on July 1st because italy wasn't going to grant italiana somalia independence till 1961 learn your historical facts before you make assumptions it was Somaliland that talk to British on April 1960 to speed up the independence for both somali states and actually the British was against the union with italia somalia because believed a strong independent somaliland would be better off than union with italian half and British was the ones who invented somaliwayn and pushed for it not you faqash fanatics, so be proud your from somaliland we are first independent somali nation in horn so don't try to cover up things because your qabilist minority of darood that nobody in world cares about.

[Ben Dover]

EL AFWEYNE: 100,000
ERIGAVO:205,000
BADHAN: 239,00

Where did you bring these numbers from? Waad dawakhsantahay sxb.

[Sharmarke91]

Talk about desperate repetition, estimations were rejected by SLAND as well.
They've also said they're gonna make a census for Hargiesa to prove that it's bigger than Xamar (though unlikely)

Anyhow, the map is in front of your eyes, Badhan district could easily be fold inside Ceel Afwayen & with plenty of change in return. Am glad you finally accepted Erigavo's statues an Isaaq town, you're a minority there sxb.



But as far as the district is concerned, you could see that most towns are in the north of which we dominate. 95% of Erigavo district coast is in under the control of Isaaq Waqdaria is right next to Badhan distict border. However when the line goes down it goes to the left. Still from Waqdaria to Karin to Kulmiyi going down all the way to Darawayne is Isaaq territory.

BTW do you know how to use Google Maps? Although I don't consider it as a reliable tool to measure towns
but the links you've provided shows that Gabiely is much larger than Buuhoodle. Maybe you should Zoomout to 1KM
in order to have a better prospect. I have the feeling you though that small neighborhood in eastern Gabiely is the town itself
and rushed here to receive your long overdue L.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Boh ... 46.3386154

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Geb ... 43.6327326




As for our lands there, yes we can claim it town and water wells why not? You're the one who lay
unsubstantial claims on 2 regions + one district. Why not claiming the whole Toghdeer instead of picking
Buuhoodle district and renaming it Cayn, why not going after Xildiban or whatever your town is in Togdeer.
Do you know why? cos you're severely outnumbered with that move hence why you're content with only Buuhoodle district.
Unlike you, I am not afraid to claim my lands especially with the'Sool Sanaag & Cayn' bullshit airing everywhere.

Tough luck with the Hutu's 2 regions rule. You're stuck with us and can never make any regions be it SSC, Khatumoo, Makhiir or even the new North East.

Am going to wrap this up for you sxb.

SANAAG:

I showed you the only available population estimate for the region, i showed you the map of the districts, BUT YOUR A UNREASONABLE INDIVIDUAL (you probably spend too much time in your local fadhi-ku-dirir place)


-we agree on badhan and ceel ufwyn districts respectively belong to Harti (warsengali) and isaaqs.

-However you use seem to be avoiding the obvious fact that badhan district is larger both in area and population (even though you've seen the UNFPA survey and the larger towns in the badhan district)

- I never said and i will never say ceerigabo city belongs to isaaq ( i said isaaq control the city Just like LA, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE)

- I also showed you that ceerigabo district is by far Harti majority, you keep saying you have large towns in north of ceerigabo (but you haven't and you cant even name one major town there).

- you also claim that 95% of ceeribaago district's coast belongs to isaaq, which is false as the furthest east the isaaqs go is laasa surad village whom they share with the gahayle (MJ). even if you occupied the entire coast you would still be a small minority in the district. CHECK MAP AGAIN

IN CONCLUSION I HATE TO BREAK IT TO YOU MATE BUT YOU ARE A MINORITY IN SANAAG!! ( CEERIGAABO DISTRICT ESPECIALLY)
dadku waa is yaqaana marka cidna been loo sheegi maayo indr.

According to the UNDP (JPLG) ONLY 26,00 live in Gabiley town. KKKKKKK HOW SMALL
http://jplg.org/documents/Documents%5CD ... y%20DP.pdf (GABILEY)

Horta i have to give it to you idoors for such a small tribe you speak very loud and proud, but your wrong sxb we are the people stopping you from getting recognition LMAO, that's why you developed all this hatred for us (plus the thousands of your people we massacred in 1991 - no wonder your calling as hutu's)

[Sharmarke91]

EL AFWEYNE: 100,000
ERIGAVO:205,000
BADHAN: 239,00

Where did you bring these numbers from? Waad dawakhsantahay sxb.

These figures are from the UNFPA survey, not mine sxb!

[Khalid Ali]

wasakhgali are a minority in sanaag and Somaliland they are 3% of SL population

they have no say in sanaag at all haday is dhaqaajiyaan they will be wiped out

[AwRastaale]

We all know the truth. Sanaag is lock down and Erigabo is the most isaaq dominated.

The only places still somewhat need our attention are Dhahar, Las Qorey and Badhan.

Even with those we can penetrate any time we want as you saw Silanyo delegation in Las Qorey but we have a strategy plan and that is to develop Isaaq districts.

With the road now almost complete, we will pour in Isaaq.

Once we make all the Isaaq districts more developed and more important we will visit other districts.

The new Makhiir gang will hand themselves over but right now we don't care about them. They are no threat like Makhiir and we will just block any attempts to build roads other than ours.

Kaymaha heska jogan.



We can block any thing they try but none of them can even try to stop our policies and that speaks volume of not who controls but who is majority.

[Ben Dover]

These figures are from the UNFPA survey, not mine sxb!

I see. It is strange sxb because in the very same post you cited those numbers from UNFPA you also claimed that:

buuhoodle is insignificant? kkkk buuhoodle is larger and more populous than gabiley,ceerigaabo and berbera. If somaliland had any power they would of taken over it. They tried a few years ago but they failed.

And according to the same UNFPA numbers you've quoted:

Ceerigaabo: 205,318
Berbera: 176,000
Gabiley: 106,000
Buuhoodle: 83,747

So what is it? Are the numbers real and Badhan larger than Ceelafweyn, mise waa iska sheeko oo Buuhoodlaa ka dad badan Gabiley, Ceerigaabo iyo Berbera?

Waad dawakhsantahay sxb

[Sharmarke91]

These figures are from the UNFPA survey, not mine sxb!

I see. It is strange sxb because in the very same post you cited those numbers from UNFPA you also claimed that:

buuhoodle is insignificant? kkkk buuhoodle is larger and more populous than gabiley,ceerigaabo and berbera. If somaliland had any power they would of taken over it. They tried a few years ago but they failed.

And according to the same UNFPA numbers you've quoted:

Ceerigaabo: 205,318
Berbera: 176,000
Gabiley: 106,000
Buuhoodle: 83,747

So what is it? Are the numbers real and Badhan larger than Ceelafweyn, mise waa iska sheeko oo Buuhoodlaa ka dad badan Gabiley, Ceerigaabo iyo Berbera?

Waad dawakhsantahay sxb

I was referring to the towns of Berbera, Gabiley, Erigavo, and Buuhoodle and not the districts as whole.
if you take away the rural population from those figures you will get:

Ceerigabo 86k
Berbera 75k
Buuhoodle 50k
Gabiley 37k
(keep in mind that these numbers include not just the main towns but the villages in the area)

...considering that buuhoodle has the least villages and no other main towns in the district i think i can safely assume depending on these stats that buuhoodle town is more populous than gabiley and ceerigabo for sure, but i have doubts on berbera.

just look at ceerigabo district there must be like 35 villages and like 5 other main towns in the district if you divide that 86k you would probably get that ceerigabo town is around 25-30k

The population estimate confirmed that gabiley town has 26k inhabits

berbera am not too sure but looking at the satellite pictures all i can see is warehouses and hardly any houses.

also if you look at the built up area of these towns on google maps you'll get:
berbera : 13.34 km2
ceerigabo: 6.48km2
gabiley: 8.86km2
buuhodle: 10.86km2

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Wtf is this guy talking about? How the hell is gabiley 37,000 when Arabsiyo alone has that population.

[Sharmarke91]

Wtf is this guy talking about? How the hell is gabiley 37,000 when Arabsiyo alone has that population.

These figures where released by a UN agency you daft cunt,

arabsiyo has that much population? LOL go tell your hooyo that, she might believe you.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Wtf is this guy talking about? How the hell is gabiley 37,000 when Arabsiyo alone has that population.

These figures where released by a UN agency you daft cunt,

arabsiyo has that much population? LOL go tell your hooyo that, she might believe you.

My hoyoo is Ciidigalle you focking nacas.

I have been there in the groundo unlike you.Arabsiyo is booming and growing quickly it is past the 30,000 mark.The UN never conducted a formal census so stick your fake numbers up your ass!

The Gabiley region is probably 150,000 with 90% of them JB Mashallah!

[Sharmarke91]

Wtf is this guy talking about? How the hell is gabiley 37,000 when Arabsiyo alone has that population.

These figures where released by a UN agency you daft cunt,

arabsiyo has that much population? LOL go tell your hooyo that, she might believe you.

My hoyoo is Ciidigalle you focking nacas.

I have been there in the groundo unlike you.Arabsiyo is booming and growing quickly it is past the 30,000 mark.The UN never conducted a formal census so stick your fake numbers up your ass!

The Gabiley region is probably 150,000 with 90% of them JB Mashallah!

firstly I've been to the little refugee camp of arabsiyo, i haven't seen nobody but a few nappy headed idoors high of qaad.

secondly dont be mad at me i didnt make these numbers up.

http://jplg.org/documents/Documents%5CD ... y%20DP.pdf