dhulbahante and Puntland

[abdalla11]

What motivated our fellow harti brothers to join the isaaq??What do they want, is it more power or do they want more to say in the government of Puntland.

i realy don't get it.

Ps: I only want that reer harti answers this, so annoying somalilanders don't bother

[abdisamad3]

we should give more power to our dhulbahante brothers..puntland should be ruled 4 years by every harti sub clan that would make every one feel equal..

[JeyR]

First of all, dhulbahante was 100% puntland at the begining. It was good thing that time, people were excited to have Harti state. After while, Puntland is change. There were no justice at all, for example, there were three guys who were been accused killing one majeerteen officer in Las anod. This is during the puntland controling Las anod. The three guys transfered to Growe Jail, which was suppost to be Capital of Puntland. Gues what happen to those three guys, they get kill by those who suppost to protect them in growe. When dhuloos rise this issue, no one did anything. The other thing is that, there was no equality at all, for example, the cities such as, bosaso, goroowe, galkacayo were getting every kind of social services from puntland governments. Las anod And Buhoodle never had puntland government to do anything. Before you post this, do fact check please. We love our brothers, but you are too politician for us. The other thing is that, you only use harti card when there is something you need to get.
For the Isaaq, I will be honest with you, they respect us more then they respect themselves. Becuase they know what we are capable of, and you don't respect us.

[abdisamad3]

First of all, dhulbahante was 100% puntland at the begining. It was good thing that time, people were excited to have Harti state. After while, Puntland is change. There were no justice at all, for example, there were three guys who were been accused killing one majeerteen officer in Las anod. This is during the puntland controling Las anod. The three guys transfered to Growe Jail, which was suppost to be Capital of Puntland. Gues what happen to those three guys, they get kill by those who suppost to protect them in growe. When dhuloos rise this issue, no one did anything. The other thing is that, there was no equality at all, for example, the cities such as, bosaso, goroowe, galkacayo were getting every kind of social services from puntland governments. Las anod And Buhoodle never had puntland government to do anything. Before you post this, do fact check please. We love our brothers, but you are too politician for us. The other thing is that, you only use harti card when there is something you need to get.
For the Isaaq, I will be honest with you, they respect us more then they respect themselves. Becuase they know what we are capable of, and you don't respect us.

I dont think the idoor respect you guys to be honest..

[Highland]

Almost all Dhulbahante Garads support the state of Puntland. Las Anod will soon come back sooner the Jama Siyad and Bahararsame are braught on board.

We just need democratic institutions that is NOT based on qabiil quota. The institution of Qabiil is truly destructive in the long term though it can be a temporary solution.
This is the best time to implement the political party system.

[gemini07]

The Previous Puntland Admin focked up big time,which is what caused the loss of L.A. iyo kalsoonida Beesha Dhulbahante.
& We need to stop hogging the seat,sharing is caring.

That is all.

[abdalla11]

First of all, dhulbahante was 100% puntland at the begining. It was good thing that time, people were excited to have Harti state. After while, Puntland is change. There were no justice at all, for example, there were three guys who were been accused killing one majeerteen officer in Las anod. This is during the puntland controling Las anod. The three guys transfered to Growe Jail, which was suppost to be Capital of Puntland. Gues what happen to those three guys, they get kill by those who suppost to protect them in growe. When dhuloos rise this issue, no one did anything. The other thing is that, there was no equality at all, for example, the cities such as, bosaso, goroowe, galkacayo were getting every kind of social services from puntland governments. Las anod And Buhoodle never had puntland government to do anything.


ok...but why didn't the ppl of laascaanood do anything for their hometown? Are you saying that the governmentof puntland built the cities bosaso and garowe and gaalkacyo?? No the inhabitans of those cities built it!! So don't blame the government, blame yourself for bearing no interests. I agree if u say the government should help you guys, but it doesn't mean they shold do everything! But i do condemn the Pland goevrnment for not showing much interests for laascaanood, but that doesn't mean that u guys must sek the help of the isaaq

Before you post this, do fact check please. We love our brothers, but you are too politician for us. The other thing is that, you only use harti card when there is something you need to get.

We only want that our Harti brothers don't join the enemy

For the Isaaq, I will be honest with you, they respect us more then they respect themselves. Becuase they know what we are capable of, and you don't respect us.

Are you saying that mj doesn't respect their fellow Harti brothers as much as the Isaaq do???are you kidding me??

[Khalid Ali]

The supreme leader garaad jamac garaad cali garaad jamac , took back his support from puntland end last year, ever since he is in Nairobi working with nsum party and other united nation and hayado. The only garaad of the maxamuud garaad ama garaadka nugaleed is in garowe, and he cant do much.

[Captain24]

war Garaadkaa waa qunyar usocod. I don' think he has the support of Baharsame let alone beesha Dhulbahante

[surrender]

garaad jamac garaad cali garaad jamac is supporter, but i guess it takes more than one man to win the battle right!

[abdalla11]

garaad jamac garaad cali garaad jamac is supporter, but i guess it takes more than one man to win the battle right!

Yes, but one man can also make the difference

[Khalid Ali]

garaad jamac garaad cali garaad jamac is supporter, but i guess it takes more than one man to win the battle right!

His father garaad cali was the garaad of somaliland in 1960 leading the usp party

This represent Mejeertenia , meel uu dhaafo ma jirto taasna inu hawiye ghaadho hawiye na way qasanyihin

[Khalid Ali]

Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali oo ku dhawaaqay inay Kalsoonidii kala noqdeen Puntland
Thursday, 29 January 2009
Buuhoodle(Togdhnews)-Garaad Jaamac Garaad Cali oo ah garaadka guud ee beesha Dhulbahante ayaa waraysi la yeelatay laanta afsoomaaliga ee
idaacada BBC-du waxa uu si cad ui sheegay in isaga iyointa la talada ahiba ay kalsoonidii kala noqdeen maamulka Puntland,isagoo sheegay in waxba la waydiin waayey isla markaana meel lagaga dhacay sharaftii iyo karaamadii beeshiisa.


Garaad Jaamac ayaa sheegay in awood qaybsigii lagu dhisay Puntlad la garab maray,oo la diiday taladii ay soo jeediyeen,isla markaana xataa la diiday xubnihii ay u soo xusheen golaha wakiilada Puntland.

Garaadka ayaa wuxuu tiriyey gabaygii Saahid Qamaan ee ay ka mid ahaayeen:

Masoow aabahay iyo halkii aan, Magan kasoo gaadhay
· Rag waxaan ku maamuli aqaan, amaan ku maamuusi
· Masaa in aanu nahay ooy tolnimo, meerto noo tahaye
· Oon waliba kaga miil cadahay, maydhta diidaniye
· Masalaha ninkaan ii dhigayn, midig ma saaraayo
· Kii aniga iga maarmi kara, uma muraad sheegto

Garaadka ayaa sidoo kale sheegay inaanay jirin cid kala qaybsan oo beeshu midaysan tahay,aanayna ahayn jinac-duulaan dhinac isu wada raaca,basle ay jiraan dad ku kala jira maamulada iyo ururada soomaaliya ka jira,sida qabaa'ilada kale ee Soomaaliya.

Garaad Jaamac ayaa sheegay in ay tahay khalad in maamulka Puntland uu yidhaahdo anagaa qorayna xubnaha gobolada SSC uga mid noqonaya xildhibaanada Soomaaliya,arintaasoo Garaadku ka dalbday inay ka noqdaan go'aankaas oo aanay xaq u lahayn inay xubnaha beelaha xulaan.
Garaad Jaamac ayaa sheegay in beesha Dhulbahante isugu timaado shir deg deg ah oo ay aayahooda kaga tashanayaan,isagoo sheegay inay arintoodu qar ka lulato.

Garaad Jaamac oo maalmahan ku sugnaa Buuhoodle ayaa shirar kala duwan la qaadanayey odayaasha,siyaasiyiinta iyo waxgaradka deegaankaas,iyagoo shirar ay yeesheen ka soo saaray go'aamo muhiimah.

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[JeyR]

ABDALLA11 YOU WROTE THIS...........

ok...but why didn't the ppl of laascaanood do anything for their hometown? Are you saying that the governmentof puntland built the cities bosaso and garowe and gaalkacyo?? No the inhabitans of those cities built it!! So don't blame the government, blame yourself for bearing no interests. I agree if u say the government should help you guys, but it doesn't mean they shold do everything! But i do condemn the Pland goevrnment for not showing much interests for laascaanood, but that doesn't mean that u guys must sek the help of the isaaq

Before you post this, do fact check please. We love our brothers, but you are too politician for us. The other thing is that, you only use harti card when there is something you need to get.

We only want that our Harti brothers don't join the enemy





ABDALLA, I DON'T THINK YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT. WE ARE NOT ASKING YOU WALFARE. THAT IS KIND OF INSULT. I HOPE YOU ARE NOT KID OR UNEDUCATED INDIVIDUAL WHO JUST HAPPEN TO READ AND WRTE ENGLISH.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THOSE OF US WHO LIVE USA, CANADA, OR EUROPE DID EVERYTHING FOR OUR PEOPLE. WE ARE ABLE TO BUILT BEST HOSPITALS IN OUR CITIES. WE HAVE BEST COMMUNCATIONS SYTEMS, WATER, ELECTRICITY AND WE PROVIDE EVERYTHING FOR OUR PEOPLE WITHOUT YOUR HELP. I WANT TO YOU TO LOOK AT BUUHOODLE HOSPITAL HERE: THIS HOSPITAL IS THE BIGGEST IN BOTH PUNTLAND AND SOMALILAND. IT BUILTED BY ONE OF OURS, IT IS JUST SAMLL THING I WANNA SHOW YOU WHAT WE DID FOR OUR PEOPLE.

SINCE YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND MY POINT AT ALL, I WILL BREAK IT DOWN FOR YOU. THE GOVERNMENT OF PUNTLAND HER ROLE WAS TO CREATE SAFE AND SECURE ENVIRONMENTF FOR ALL PUNTLANDERS, TO PROTECT, AND SERVE IT IS CITIZENS EQAULLY, TO SHARE THE WEALTH EQUALLY. THAT HAS NOT HAPPEN AT ALL, DUE TO THE FACT THAT SOME TRIBES KEPT EVERYTHING TO THEIR OWN PEOPLE. THE POLICE MEN IN BUUHOODLE AND LAS CAANOOD NEVER GET THIER SALARIES,THE TEACHER WHO TEACH SCHOOLS HAS NOT GET ANYTHING FROM PUNTLAND. IF THE STATE CAN'T AFFORT TO PAY THESE SALARIES, THAT IS ABSULUTELY UNDERSTANABLE, BUT WHEN THE POLICE MAN OR TEACHER WHO LIVE BOSASO, GROWE, AND GAALKACAYO GETS THEIR PAY CHECK EVERYMONTH, IS THAT FAIR??

IT SEEMS YOU RESPOND EVERYTHING I SAID, EXCEPT THE THREE SOLDERS WHO DEAD IN GROOWE JAIL WHOM KILLED BY THOSE WHO SUPPOST TO PROTECT THEM, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT??? JUST WONDER....

FOR LOOSING LAAS CAANOOD, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A GOVERNMENT NOT DHULOOS RESPONSIBILTY. THE REASON I AM SAYING THAT IS, BEFORE PUNTLAND, DHULOOS WILL NEVER ALLOW ISAAQ TO COME CLOSE TO DHULOOS AREA. IF YOU REMEMBER, WHEN ISAAQ CAPTURED HARGAISA AND BURCO 1991, THEY WENT STRIGHT TO GUDUBIIRSI AND CAPTURED BOORAMA, BUT THEY NEVER INTENT TO ATTACK BUUHOODLE OR LAAS CAANOOD BECUASE THEY KNEW IT WILL BE HELL FOR THEM IF THEY GO TO DHULOOS AREA. AFTER DHULOOS JOINT PUNTLAND SOOL WAS GONNE.......

THERE ARE DHULOOS WHO LOVE PUNTLAND, MY UNCLE WHO LIVES BUUHODLE IS ONE OF THEM, BUT WHEN YOU ASK HIM WHAT PUNTLAND DID FOR HIM, OR DID FOR BUUHOODLE PEOPLE, HE CAN'T COME UP ONE THING. HE WILL TELL YOU, THEY ARE HARTI. BEING HARTI ALONE CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. YES WE ARE ALL HARTI, WE LOVE EACH OTHER, BUT LET'S BE FAIR TO ONE ANOTHER. AND ALSO THERE ARE OTHERS WHO WANT TO BE PART OF PUNTLAND BUT SEE NO HOPE, AND HAVE BEEN DISAPPOINTED BY HOW THESE ADMINISTRATIONS ARE DOING THINGS. AND THEY ARE RAISING THEIR VOICES. AND THERE ARE THOSE WHO ALREADY MAKE UP THEIR MIND AND DICIADED TO STAY NATURAL OR GONNE OTHER PLACES. BUT WHAT COST THEM TO HAVE A DOUBT IN THEIR OWN HARTI BROTHER? PLEASE DO RESEARCH OR LET ME KNOW SO I CAN HELP YOU.

MAJEERTEEN, SHOW ME SOMETHING, FAIRNESS, EQUALITY, RESPECT, BROTHERHOOD, HONEST AND THEN WE CAN GET ALONE EACH OTHER ROTHER.....
AGAIN PLEASE DO FACT CHECK BEFORE YOU POST ANYTHING HERE.

YOU SUPRISE WHEN I SAID ISAAQ RESPECT THE DHULAHANTE, THEY DO RESPECT US MORE THEN THEIR OWN OTHER ISAAQS THAT IS THE FACT....IF YOU RESPOND TO THIS, BE CIVIL...PLEASE NO IN

[Highland]

Jeyr, just keep the peace in the region intact, continue building your cities, and then participate in the general Somali politics.
Neither PL nor SL has your interest at heart. In fact, PL is a political umbrella for Darod sub-clans. It's not a common wealth entity and it does not have the capacity to build the much-needed infrastructure. We are blessed to have inherited the Bosaso Port from the last regime, the lack of which would have created social disorder and widespread famine. As a historic friend and brother, my belief is that clan entities won't last long but the creation of a sustainable peace and harmony within the dhullos sub-clans, Diaspora investment and active political participation on the national level will preserve the Dhulbahante Nation forever.

Somalia will come back, so be prepared and organize yourself well.