WikiLeaks on Jubaland state and Kabalah allies

[D-Runner]

SUBJECT: SOMALIA: MADOBE PREPARING JUBA OFFENSIVE; GEDO
ISSUE UNRESOLVED

REF: NAIROBI 1648

NAIROBI 00001710 001.3 OF 002


Classified By: Somalia Unit Counselor Bob Patterson for reasons 1.4(b,d
).

1. (C) Summary: Darod/Ogaden clan heavyweight Ahmed Madobe,
in coordination with TFG officials, appears to be stepping up
efforts to take Kismayo and consolidate control of Lower
Juba. (Note: Hassan al-Turki is the nominal head of the Ras
Kamboni group, which has been working to overthrow the TFG.
In recent months Turki's top commanders Ibrahim Shukri and
Madobe have worked behind the scenes to marginalize al-Turki
within his Ogaden/Mohamed Zubeyr subclan and move against
al-Shabaab. End Note.) Our contacts tell us TFG
Minister of Defense, the TFG Minister of Finance, and the
Prime Minister are aware of and support Madobe's plans.
Madobe has been appointed head of an evolving Lower Juba
entity, which is locally administered and has links to the
TFG. Shukri has been appointed head of internal affairs. The
appointments of Madobe and Shukri grew out of recent
meetings in Juba and Nairobi between their supporters and
predominantly Darod/Kabalah clan leaders and MPs (reftel).
Our contacts report that many Marehan figures in Gedo, to
include long-time warlord Barre Hirale, appear uninterested
in cooperating with Lower Juba to form a Jubaland entity
unless they (Marehan) are in charge. End summary.

Madobe Prepares for "War" with Al-Shabaab
-----------------------------------------

2. (C) A close ally of Ahmed Madobe on August 12 told us that
he had just returned from meeting Madobe at the Kenyan
border. Madobe held a meeting in Dhoble on August 13, during
which he reportedly assured NGOs and humanitarian
organizations that they could operate in areas under his
control. After the meeting Madobe told our contact that he
intended to return to Kismayo and was preparing for war with
al-Shabaab. Madobe said he recently traveled to Mogadishu to
encourage his allies to take part in a Kismayo offensive. An
Ogaden business figure close to Madobe, Mohamed Sheikh, on
August 12 told us that Madobe said the focus should be on
Kismayo. After Kismayo was under his control, consideration
would be given to Gedo Region. Mohamed Shiekh told us that
Madobe does not intend to push beyond lower Juba. Sheikh
had just been in Mogadishu, where he met with the TFG
Ministers of Defense and Finance and the Prime Minister, who
all supported Madobe's plans. Shukri told the Minister of
Defense that Madobe's plan was the kind of initiative that
"he would fund." In Mohamed Sheikh's view, Darod/Kabalah
subclans were behind the evolving Lower Juba administration
and would add currently inactive militia to the fight. (Note:
Mohamed Sheikh is the chairman of Somalia's second largest
telecom company. End note.)

3. (C) Our contacts tell us that Madobe has been appointed
head of an evolving Lower Juba entity, which is locally
administered and has links to the TFG while Ibrahim Shukri
has been appointed head of the entity's internal affairs.
Madobe's role is essentially military and Shukri's is
administrative. The appointments grew out of recent
meetings in Juba and Nairobi between the supporters of Madobe
and Shukri and predominantly-Darod/Kabalah clan leaders and
MPs. In mid-July a 27-person Steering Committee was formed
for Jubaland, but our contacts say that arguments continue
over who will occupy key positions (reftel). (Note: Madobe
appears to both head the Ras Kamboni organization and an
emerging Jubaland administration. Al-Turki is described as
aging, marginalized within his Ogaden/Mohamed Zubeyr subclan,
and increasingly loyal to al-Shabaab. Other contacts
involved in the mid-July meetings tell us there was support
for Madobe among the Darod/Kabalah leaders. End note.)

The Question of Gedo and the Marehan
-------------------------------------

4. (C) Darod/Kabalah contacts on August 12 told us there is
disagreement between the Darod/Marehan clan in Gedo region
about joining Lower Juba representatives to form a Jubaland.
The most influential Marehan leaders in Gedo, to include
long-time warlord Barre Hirale, appear uninterested in
cooperating with Lower Juba to form a Jubaland unless they
are in charge. Other Juba contacts report some Marehan
support the idea, but they are the less influential and not
well-armed members of the subclan.

NAIROBI 00001710 002.5 OF 002

Many Darod leaders from Juba and Gedo reportedly agree
on the general principle of a Jubaland state subordinate
to the TFG, but remain divided over who will control
Jubaland and the port of Kismayo. One option being
considered is a Jubaland state with two regions, Middle Juba
and Lower Juba. Middle Juba, in this scenario, would
be predominantly Marehan and Lower Juba would be
primarily Ogaden and Majerteen. Our contacts, however,
indicate the Ogaden and Majerteen would insist on the
presidency of a united Jubaland. Mohamed Sheikh said it is
widely believed in Lower Juba that Ethiopia intends to
support the Marehan's claims on Kismayo because Addis Ababa
would be threatened by an Ogaden-led Lower Juba
administration. (Note: The Ogaden is currently the most
powerful subclan within the Darod/Kabalah in Lower Juba. The
Darod/Kabalah also contains the Majerteen subclan. The
Darod/Marehan power base remains Gedo region, or "Middle
Juba." End note.)

Comment
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5. (C) The emerging alternative to an al-Turki-led al-Shabaab
in Lower Juba is a positive development. Madobe, Shukri, and
their allies represent the most powerful subclan in Lower
Juba. While there are certainly interests which are not
represented in Lower Juba by the emerging Jubaland
administration, there are probably not competing groups,
aside from al-Shabaab, in Lower Juba which would pose a
serious threat to Madobe and Shukri's forces. The
Darod/Marehan power base is in Gedo and it is unlikely
Marehan leaders would be able to move down the valley and
confront Madobe and Shukri's forces without significant
support from Ethiopia. While there appears to be increasing
momentum behind an evolving Lower Juba administration that
includes Madobe and Shukri, it appears clear that a Jubaland
that includes Gedo region is far from a reality. We believe
that the Marehan in Gedo will most likely view Ogaden
military action in Lower Juba as a threat if it moves beyond
Lower Juba's borders. Similarly, Marehan efforts to
militarily or politically lay claim to Kismayo will likely be
strongly resisted by Madobe, Shukri, and their predominantly
Darod/Kabalah allies. Finally, Madobe and Shukri's possible
willingness to work with the TFG and negotiate with other
leaders in the Jubas could shift as quickly as the
ever-shifting Somali political sands.

http://dazzlepod.com/cable/09NAIROBI1710/?rss=1

[Advo]

Abti give it rest, we both know the outcome of this situation.

Puntland ku ekow ee dhulkaaga nabada leh dhiso

[Aseelah-Raaida]

[Advo]

Horta marka ugu horey waxaan u hanjabaayey odeyga d runner oo sheeka qaloocan la shir imaadey. His advocating or atleast wishing for a jubbaland without mareexaan involvement or with very little. Thats just comical and far from reality. I personally believe anyone who"s from the regions compromising of the state should have a say and a hand in the formation. Tbh Majeerteen/leelkase power house is in the north, I doubt they will have a big role in the south, thats why im suspicious of the kablalax card being brought out in such manner .

[Aseelah-Raaida]

Horta marka ugu horey waxaan u hanjabaayey odeyga d runner oo sheeka qaloocan la shir imaadey. His advocating or atleast wishing for a jubbaland without mareexaan involvement or with very little. Thats just comical and far from reality. I personally believe anyone who"s from the regions compromising of the state should have a say and a hand in the formation. Tbh Majeerteen/leelkase power house is in the north, I doubt they will have a big role in the south, thats why im suspicious of the kablalax card being brought out in such manner .

Advo ,

& which tribes are these?

[Based]

Reer Siyaad, Reer Dalal, Reer Kooshin, Reer Ugaas Shermarke, Reer Hirsi, Reer Siyaad Xussein, Reer Cali Xussein, Reer Xassan, Reer Garaad, Uurmidig, Ina-Nuur, Celi, Cali Dheere, Wagardhac, Talxe, Howrarsame, and other Sade sub clans

[Aseelah-Raaida]

Absame ,Adeerkii iyo Ina'adeerkii

[Based]

@OP, you realize this cable is from 09 right? Things have changed substantially since then.

I find it hard to believe that we're already talking about fighting over the Jubbas before Shabaab has been defeated. imo the future of Jubbaland has always been Absade Any attempt by either group to do things unilaterally will most likely end in abject failure. I think the Ethiopian fiasco has shown that a foreign force that displaces AS at best creates an artificial power shift that's not sustainable when the foreign forces leave, which leaves a united Absade front being the only logical choice for long term stability in a post-Shabaab Jubbaland.

[gemini07]

Horta marka ugu horey waxaan u hanjabaayey odeyga d runner oo sheeka qaloocan la shir imaadey. His advocating or atleast wishing for a jubbaland without mareexaan involvement or with very little. Thats just comical and far from reality. I personally believe anyone who"s from the regions compromising of the state should have a say and a hand in the formation. Tbh Majeerteen/leelkase power house is in the north, I doubt they will have a big role in the south, thats why im suspicious of the kablalax card being brought out in such manner .

i dont get why "sade" get so emo when kablalax is mentioned.

[Aseelah-Raaida]

Horta marka ugu horey waxaan u hanjabaayey odeyga d runner oo sheeka qaloocan la shir imaadey. His advocating or atleast wishing for a jubbaland without mareexaan involvement or with very little. Thats just comical and far from reality. I personally believe anyone who"s from the regions compromising of the state should have a say and a hand in the formation. Tbh Majeerteen/leelkase power house is in the north, I doubt they will have a big role in the south, thats why im suspicious of the kablalax card being brought out in such manner .

i dont get why "sade" get so emo when kablalax is mentioned.

Kablalax is the older brother ,better looking ,more successful and "cagdheer"

[Based]

btw, aseelah = gemini. we are the same person.

[gemini07]

Horta marka ugu horey waxaan u hanjabaayey odeyga d runner oo sheeka qaloocan la shir imaadey. His advocating or atleast wishing for a jubbaland without mareexaan involvement or with very little. Thats just comical and far from reality. I personally believe anyone who"s from the regions compromising of the state should have a say and a hand in the formation. Tbh Majeerteen/leelkase power house is in the north, I doubt they will have a big role in the south, thats why im suspicious of the kablalax card being brought out in such manner .

i dont get why "sade" get so emo when kablalax is mentioned.

Kablalax is the older brother ,better looking ,more successful and "cagdheer"

btw, aseelah = gemini. we are the same person.

[Aseelah-Raaida]

btw, aseelah = gemini. we are the same person.

[Based]

I'm still @ "Kabalah" allies.

We've got the Scientologists with us

[Amilla]

btw, aseelah = gemini. we are the same person.

I should tell you this and I should just watch your laugh for no reason but There is two geminis. Gimini-snake and Aseelah are the same person. Gemini07 is a different person.