Shocking: The hadiths on Najds as said by the Prophet (saw)

[ZubeirAwal]

I was shocked as i thought there was only one hadith about the fitna of Najd, only to find out its been mentioned several times in the hadith , even in Bukhari!

As i begin, the Najd hadiths are not directed at Iraq, we are in Aakhirul Zaman and the only thing we see in Iraq is failure, but what we do see in Riyadh/Najd is the aftermath of over 200 years ago, 2 men, Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab, and Muhammad ibn Saud who worked co-herently to establish a monarchy where they will be dominant. They invaded Medina while the city was left without soldiers, eventually the Ottoman rulers returned and defeated them, resulting in a execution on Muhammad bin Saud, but his offspring continue till this day, on who the prophet proclaimed to be " The worst of human beings"

Some hadiths will be quoted from Mishkat Al-Masabih, this book is not a collection of false or daeef hadiths, its a collection of important hadiths.

A person with eyes protruding, with a long beard and head clean-shaven came to the Prophet (SAWS) and declared: 'O Muhammad! (SAWS) fear Allah. ' The Prophet (SAWS) replied: ‘If I disobey Allah (WST), then who else will obey Him? I am obedient to Allah (SWT) at all times and never disobedient. Allah (SWT) has sent me as Amin (Honest for the entire world, but you don't accept me as an honest man? A Sahabi (Companion) became infuriated and sought permission to remove him from the presence of the Prophet (SAWS). The Prophet (SAWS) prevented the Sahabi from doing so. After the person had left, the Prophet (SAWS) said: ‘From his progeny (descendants) will rise a Group who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the Deen (Islam) just as an arrow leaves the bowstring. They will kill Muslims but spare the idolaters. If I ever confronted these people I would slaughter them just as the people of Aad had been destroyed'. (

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From this we can understand these were not the khawarjites of the apostate wars, that these were muslims who recited the holy qur'an. But the prophet says that they will leave the deen.

They will kill Muslims but spare the idolaters.

In the conquests of the saudi family, from 1801, till 1924, so much massacres have been carried out in citys/towns invaded, the most recent one was in 1924, the hashemite army that ruled Taif, was defeated and 400-600 civilians were massacred in the space of 3 days at the hands of Ibn Saud and his militia.
As for idolaters, this word in arabic is the same for polythiests, muhsrikuun, muslims use mushriks for zionists, and other off-shoots of religion like the modern secular state that says Christianity is the religion when in reality they worship the devil.

Nearing Qiyamah there will be a Group of people who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the true Religion of Islam as fast as an arrow leaves the bow. They will be recognized by the shavings of their entire head and they will move in Groups and their last Group will emerge with Dajjal. When you meet them you will discover their nature and character, the worst of its kind.' (Mishkat p. 309).

They will be recognized by the shavings of their entire head and they will move in Groups and their last Group will emerge with Dajjal.

Now undoubtly you can understand that these people the prophet are talking about are people to come in the last era of the Ummah. As for the shavings of the head, my knowledge is limited on that detail.

As for them moving in groups, Wahabists changed their name to Salafi, they claim they are following the Aslaf , but this is a claim to disguise themselves for they follow the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abdulwahab.

An important sign to identify these misguided people mentioned by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) is that they will be so punctual and devoted to Salah to the extent that one will feel ashamed of his own Salah as compared to theirs.

I have seen many of my friends who are Salafi boast about their Salah to me and i feel ashamed if i missed Fajr because of their boasts, amazingly, this was prophesied by the prophet (saw) who Allah blessed with knowledge.


Let us look at the seriousness of these Ahadith. Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) is cautioning us that whoever follows these groups, will go out of Islam as the arrow goes out of the bow, never to return back. Meaning, the chances of returning back to Correct Islamic Faith for them are nil. Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar.

Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) has repeatedly cautioned us about this danger in many Ahadiths. In spite of these warnings, if we fall prey to these sects' Dawa, then no one can save us from Allah’s (SWT) torment (Azab).

It is our experience that whatever Quranic and Ahadith references you place before them, whatever evidence you provide to bring them back to the straight path of Islam, it falls on their deaf ears. They are not willing to listen to reason and evidence of any kind. It seems their fate is sealed.

Wahhabis try to manipulate the above Ahadith in many ways. Some say that the Dua (Prophet's -SAWS supplication) was not made as regards to a high land. Some others say that the what Prophet (SAWS) meant was Iraq. They should understand that in Prophets (SAWS) Hadith there is a mention of Syria and Yemen and not the type of land, therefore the word Najd in this Hadith definitely refers to the place Najd itself which is in Saudi Arabia, and not in Iraq."

The following Ahadith clearly establishes the location of Najd.

It is in Hadith - Narrated by Imam Nasa’i (Manasik al-Hajj, 22), ‘A’isha (RA) declared that ‘Allah’s Messenger (SAWS) established the 'miqat' for the people of Madina at Dhu’l-Hulayfa, for the people of Syria and Egypt at al-Juhfa, for the people of Iraq at Dhat Irq, and for the people of Najd at Qarn, and for the Yemenis at Yalamlam.’



Last Hadith, very important one

Anas Bin Malik (RU) narrates that in Medina, there lived a very pious youngster. One day we made reference about this youngster to the Prophet (SAWS). In spite of the Sahaba describing the youngster's features and character to the Prophet (SAWS), the Prophet (SAWS) did not recognize the youngster made mention of. However, a few days later, whilst we were in the company of the Prophet (SAWS), the young man passed that way. On seeing the young man, the Prophet (SAWS) exclaimed: 'I see the scabs of Shaitaan imprinted on his face. The youngster then approached the Prophet (SAWS) and made salutation. The Prophet (SAWS) then said to him. 'Is it not true that right now you are thinking that there is no one better than yourself here?. 'The youngster then replied. 'Yes, these thoughts did pass my mind. 'He then walked away into the Masjid. The Prophet (SAWS) then inquired as to who will kill this person. Hazrat Abu Bakr (RU) volunteered to do so and entered the Masjid and saw the person he was deeply engrossed in performing Salaat and he remembered a Hadith of the Prophet (SAWS) which prohibited one from killing a person who is performing his Salah and returned to the Prophet (SAWS).

The Prophet (SAWS) again inquired as to who will kill the youngster, this time Hazrat Umar (RU) volunteered to kill him and entered the Masjid and found the youngster performing his Sajda and with the same thoughts as Hazrat Abu Bakr (RU), Hazrat Umar (RU) returned to the Prophet (SAWS).

For the third time the Prophet (SAWS) again inquired who will kill the youngster, this time Hazrat Ali (RU) volunteered to do so, the Prophet (SAWS) said, 'You will surely kill him, if you find him.'

When Hazrat Ali entered the Masjid, he was surprised to see that the youngster was no longer in the Masjid and he too like the others returned to the Prophet (SAWS). The Prophet (SAWS) said: 'If you had only killed him then all the Fitna in my Ummah till Day of Qiyamah would have been wiped out and no two persons in my Ummah would have fought between themselves.’ (Ibreez , p. 277) Author- Allama Shah Abdul Aziz Dabbaag.



Anyone who reads the above Ahadiths will be convinced that the groups being referred to by Prophet Mohammad (SAWS) is none other than Wahhabis. Because their characteristics meet 100% from the characteristics mentioned in these Ahadith. The good reader can know that despite these people doing evil things they will preserve their salah and would be so proud of themselves, boastly walking, as if they are the best of men, and paradise is preserved from them.

May Allah protect the Ummah from these evil people.

[gurey25]

too late they are the majority, our parents generation is the last one that was spared them.
most of your somali ulema belong to that group.

most of the youth in the west belong to that group.

their dacwa is effective, form over substance.
they look more religous than any other group,
why wouldn't you be attracted to them.

for every subject they have hundreds of fatwas by dozens of their shuyukh.
it very appealing to a reer badiyo who recently came to the town. refugee camp then west or stayed in cities . (majority of the somali population)
and very appealing for westernized youth living in qurbaha.

give up abubaker we lost for now..
just concentrate on your own children.

[SultanOrder]

Ibn Subeer, any group that you described will turn on themselves and destroy each other. What we have to always believe is that everything is ultimately in the hands of Allah and should not fear anyone more than Allah. There is a revitalization of what is sometimes called "traditional Islam" as a counter force to some of these deviant movements. This revitalization is carried on the backs of intellectual elites of the Muslims especially in the West, establishing strong foundations, and growing every day. I see the quality of people that are being produced every day and I amazed.

[ZubeirAwal]

too late they are the majority, our parents generation is the last one that was spared them.
most of your somali ulema belong to that group.

most of the youth in the west belong to that group.

their dacwa is effective, form over substance.
they look more religous than any other group,
why wouldn't you be attracted to them.

for every subject they have hundreds of fatwas by dozens of their shuyukh.
it very appealing to a reer badiyo who recently came to the town. refugee camp then west or stayed in cities . (majority of the somali population)
and very appealing for westernized youth living in qurbaha.

give up abubaker we lost for now..
just concentrate on your own children.

I know, thats why the prophet said their talks will be sweet but they will mislead muslims by the masses.

Dark days for true muslims, i wonder is it the same back home in Hargeisa? with the recent visit from Bilal Phillips at the hargeisa universitiy's attempt to mislead hargeisa's youth?

PO man im shocked one of my closest childhood friends, i just found him on facebook after no contact for 7 years, he's one of them, me and him had an arguement and he kept on saying shekh hebel said that Salafi is the reserved sect for Jannah, i couldn't help but pray Allah guided him. The prophet seemed to take this topic so seriously, whilst Salafis around the world preach to muslims about their shirk and bid3ah, the prophet said in sahih bukhari " Wallahi i do not fear you commit shirk after, i fear you will fight each other" so the equation of shirk is out of the equation.


For muslims like you and i that understand this problem, i just thank Allah my parents never took me to any Madrassa apart from the one back home where i learned my quran.

[Sagaashan]

AbuukarSubeer, Hutuking, and Yalaxow are riding in a wave of ant-salafism that i believe will eventually lead them to question the wisdom and purpose of this deen. From the conspiratorial to the absurd, they dig the wildest things in the news to take chaps at the beautiful teaching of the rasuul. All this is due to the shameless shabaabs who by all known and respected scholars have been dissed and sidelined. Let not these thugs blind you from the truth and question the Salafi concept which has nothing to do with Abdulwahab but everything to do with the purest forum of Islam as propagated by the Sunnah of the Nabi. Let not the current thingys misguide you and seek refuge in bidcah groups like the suufis who by all claims do not represent a zilch of what the prophet stood for.

[Shirib]

We live in strange times my friends.

[SultanOrder]

AbuukarSubeer, Hutuking, and Yalaxow are riding in a wave of ant-salafism that i believe will eventually lead them to question the wisdom and purpose of this deen. From the conspiratorial to the absurd, they dig the wildest things in the news to take chaps at the beautiful teaching of the rasuul. All this is due to the shameless shabaabs who by all known and respected scholars have been dissed and sidelined. Let not these thugs blind you from the truth and question the Salafi concept which has nothing to do with Abdulwahab but everything to do with the purest forum of Islam as propagated by the Sunnah of the Nabi. Let not the current thingys misguide you and seek refuge in bidcah groups like the suufis who by all claims do not represent a zilch of what the prophet stood for.

Muslims didn't fall off the path and new the salafi's to come and put them on a new course.

[Sagaashan]

We live in strange times my friends.

Indeed. Wallahi I always thought when the rasuul said that the deen is going to be more difficult than 'dhimbil dab ah' that it was the external breaking in to misguide and allude to our senses through media, nudity, etc. I never thought they would be as successful to penetrate our inner circles and train our own to question the holy texts, what many have dubbed 'cilmaaniyiin'.

[Alphanumeric]

Just more bickering and insults. Nothing worthwhile.

[Sagaashan]

PO,

Salafi is simply saying lets follow what the prophet did, without any additions. He lived that life and ordered others to follow such a path. I dont know where traditional Islam comes in or what it means, especially if it diverges from such a path.

[SultanOrder]

PO,

Salafi is simply saying lets follow what the prophet did, without any additions. He lived that life and ordered others to follow such a path. I dont know where traditional Islam comes in or what it means, especially if it diverges from such a path.

It's not simply saying anything.

[ZubeirAwal]

Alpha, was that post directed at me?, your a better member when you discuss tv shows and anime, in topics like these your one annoying person who only looks at this with one view.

Sagaashan, the aslaf of the prophets time and the 2 generations after that will never return, they were the best at their times, and their will be no generation better then them, the Salafis considered themselves upon the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abdul wahab, only when their reputation was getting more and more worse did they then changed their title to salafis, but they still live upon the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab of Najd.


I never looked at the Najdi's at this way, as in those hadiths it says that the prophet said if any of you confront them Allah loves that servent. And that if the prophet had ever had physical contact with them he would slaughter them.

No one preaches true Islam like the true Aslaf did, topics like the future of islam, dajjal, the preservation of the deen and the unity of muslims, the khalifa. Instead we got topics about shirk, bida3 and kafirs.

[Alphanumeric]

Alpha, was that post directed at me?, your a better member when you discuss tv shows and anime, in topics like these your one annoying person who only looks at this with one view.

Yes, it was at this thread.

And what view is that?

[ZubeirAwal]

a people with excellent words and vile deeds.

no doubt the modern salafists preserve the salah like no other muslim, their salah is one hundred precent on time, and the da3wah of their shuyukh is very effective and can have an effect on ones heart which will lead him following their doctrine.

[Alphanumeric]