marka

[sahal80]

i care about marka as a historical place and i like to visit some of its southren parts not politically, its where my clan ancestor is buried.
The way the marko crisis was handled is grossly unfair.
How can you make equal between people who fought againist italian colonial forces and a new comers? More then this it was the deputy mayor for security who started the offension and acts like a boss not the poor mayor?
Getting rid both of them and replacing them with other two is still far from fairness
the people would start reacting quite negatively toward the govt.

[original dervish]

sahal....what is the political situation in Shabelle Hoose?

Have the Govt favoured the h/g over the indigenous owners.
Don`t tell me how they`re wallaalo now.

[Sagaashan]

and people thought this HAG thingy was a mild joke

listen to the voice of the oppressed http://saadaalnews.com/magaalada-marka/, as Faisal Roble would aptly say this is a 'A Government Failing at its own Peril'

[sahal80]

sahal....what is the political situation in Shabelle Hoose?
Have the Govt favoured the h/g over the indigenous owners.
Don`t tell me how they`re wallaalo now.

Its not one clan govt. This is the business of the hg-held interior ministery(ina cadiid, gacmo dheere,sh cabdi raxiim, cabdi samad macalin, cabdikarim gulled)
th govt is great but they cant do shyt, needs some years, if they can change in marko they would changed the villa somalia and the port. Ex mayor dhagaxtuur has an army, indhocade so, so you keep them within as they are not againist until you can do a shyt

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

is Xawaadle buried in merka?

[sahal80]

is Xawaadle buried in merka?

lol what is this focking stright question i said my clan why you are exposing it?
His father mohamed. We still have a vew lost subclan in there called manshi/mane who are about 3000 all they way to banaadir.


Back to the politics.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

expose? isn't it obvious that you are xawaadle? Anyways thanks for the answer

[sahal80]

expose? isn't it obvious that you are xawaadle? Anyways thanks for the answer

Sorry imam, i just didnt like to mix it with politics it would sound like im anti-some clan from this background and this thread is about the politics.
i like to talk about my clan culturally as for manshi they are very vew and live with silcis gurgaarte if you like to read more check the clan talk section my thread the old shape of the somali clans its from an arabic article shows that they live between lower shabeele and northren banaadir.

[original dervish]

sahal

What are you saying?
That warlords still exist and are part of the Govt.

Answer clearly about the situation in Shabelle Hoose.
The Ceyr warlords have been given Govt cover to continue their oppression of the indigenous owners?

[sahal80]

what do you see? Arent khatumo warlords are joining somaliland?
every body has guys, but the policy is to get rid of them slowly.
As for lower shabeele i said to you this is the business of interior ministery and there is a reason why some are keeping this posision for themselves
When other people are in this business things will get changed but now the govt doest wanna creat stronger enemies for itself
Why the govt is not talking about khatumo its because somaliland are more important
Think this way it has nothing to do with clanish policy rather its called real politik

[original dervish]

I`d appreciate it if anybody can translate any of the above.
I think Sahal is admitting the Govt is acting as a clannish outfit, but is shrouding it in riddles.

[GeoSeven]

I`d appreciate it if anybody can translate any of the above.
I think Sahal is admitting the Govt is acting as a clannish outfit, but is shrouding it in riddles.

He said that the government is not addressing the issue for the same reason it isnt addressing the Khaatuumo issue. What he wrote was perfectly understandable btw.

OD, do you think the first Somali government in 22 years can magically make all problems disappear within 6 months? Do you actually think that a Somali state will be built on injustices that are happening? Do you think that the people of Marka wont be adressed in a fair manner? The Biimaal and Digil will regain full control of their city. Contrary to what everyone is thinking, HG know that they cannot establish a Shabeele Hoose kingdom with government coming. Not every group of Somalia is so deluded

[original dervish]

I support your sentiments, however, every indication suggests exactly the opposite.
The h/g moryaans have been empowered in Shabelle Hoose, and are picking up from where they left off after Aideed.

There has been no serious talks between Khaatumo/unionists and the Govt.
This at the same time Hassan Sheikh is saying all voices in J/Land must be heard.

My pessimism is fueled by the negative actions of the Govt.

[The_Patriot]

sahal....what is the political situation in Shabelle Hoose?
Have the Govt favoured the h/g over the indigenous owners.
Don`t tell me how they`re wallaalo now.

Its not one clan govt. This is the business of the hg-held interior ministery(ina cadiid, gacmo dheere,sh cabdi raxiim, cabdi samad macalin, cabdikarim gulled)
th govt is great but they cant do shyt, needs some years, if they can change in marko they would changed the villa somalia and the port. Ex mayor dhagaxtuur has an army, indhocade so, so you keep them within as they are not againist until you can do a shyt

But kismaayo has to be changed in few weeks? by calling 850 Sierra leone troops.

[original dervish]

J/Land were wise to their hypocrisy and hostility from the off.
While peoples homes and farms are being occupied and civilians being raped and killed daily, the Govt wants to deploy to Kismayo.

This Govt is continuing where the USC left off in 1991, albeit using political means this time.
Hassan Sheikh and his cabal of cultists are dividing the nation instead of bringing reconciliation to a troubled land.