President Hassan Sheikh in Washington, DC

[sahal80]

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[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

[sahal80]

For a better understanding of this visit, let us back to our old thread to see what has changed so far since the invitation. I know he is attending the UN summit but this was just a good time.

Firstly america has strongly welcomed hassan sheekhs accession to the power but at a time when the politics were on the verge of agravation they contacted with him and their clues were back then not too adjacent with his long term policies however he insisted all of his short term and long term plans and the agenda was postponed to this visit

Now, since the invitation, there have been a good political accomplishments like the peace agreements, reconciliations, national conferece vision2016...all of these accomplishments have been welcomed internationally.

This makes him a capable leader who can deliver his own national policies...however, it looks like the implementation could have a different tactics to make it more adjacent and central where the president plays dowr al bu toula(the starring role) and the speaker or the pm saying different things that goes along with their bases according to the tawzeec al adwaar policy( distibution of roles)

Some groups have won over others because of some situation and have been told to wait for the post-interim era as nothing states now anything except an agreement...are these groups preparing now for the contra attack where the world can hear their voices? anyways it was a political accomplishment for the govt.

as the president has sorted out his national issues it seems that they would care now only about having an ally just like many other leaders and the latest political support of funding the somali democracy shows getting the green light.

The american political support would include military aid as john kerry himself stated it before.

president intended to visit US for talks
by sahal80 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:35 pm

I'm the source.

Kenya and ethiopia are somalias most influential external players, these two countries are againist strong somali central state and told this to the west for a long time.

They only accept a fragmented somalia with some regions closely linked to them.

These two countries are the driver behind the federalism, thus, the somali politics should be fragmented along tribal lines based on three federal tribal states... Puntland, mogadisho and jubbaland

These countries have sent a lot of secret reports about somalia to the west, using the jihadist, refugee and security cards and indeed had a significant influence on them.

Though the westreners didn't approved all their suggestions but still all their clues about somalia are from these countries and this is why hassan sheekh is confronting all these external problems

Somalias hassan sheekh would be vastly different if these external problems were removed

Wikileaks report on these contacts on somalia
DAS Wycoff told Wetangula that the USG
continued to strongly oppose the Kenyan "Jubaland" initiative as a
bad idea that would more likely add to Somalia's instability than
to help stabilize the country. Wetangula defended GOK plans to
pursue its Jubaland (southern Somalia) initiative, implied that it
was in evolving concept, and offered to facilitate better USG
understanding of Kenya's plans.



Now what is the american position?

America has approved on hassan sheekhs 6 pillars policy in order to maintain stability and peace first but there is some clash between them wich is about the federalism. The US has asked him to appoint his interim governors but after this term ends has to bring the system closer to a genuine federalism by holding a regional elections...
All that is agreed, the problem is that Hassan sheekh wants the govt to control the port revenues in the federalism era so he refused to listen to their clues saying that he will rather resign than grant the federal states this status specifically in the south

The reason is that he fears such a federal state will have contracts with foreing countries on its port and resources and though getting and interim support he doesn't want to sign what could damage him in the long run.

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

Very nicely put sahal80

[sahal80]

Very nicely put sahal80

Thanks mate, I have seen your post and all I can say is the political support wich includes the military support is more important than the economical support, your an ally...that is it.

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

Very nicely put sahal80

Thanks mate, I have seen your post and all I can say is the political support wich includes the military support is more important than the economical support, your an ally...that is it.

Again well put Sahal80, thanks for correcting me, that's what brothers are for

[sahal80]

Woow at this pic at the US state department, shows like what america said earlier that he is a stateman and has showing a great leadership

I would like to add the american political support is a massive logistical support, expect all the gulf arabs soon!

Coming back with the green light!

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

Somalia made it

[jamal9]

Somaliland was also mentioned by Kerry

[original dervish]

Very little will change.
Hassan Sheikh will still be dependent on Bantu troops to keep his Govt alive.
Most of his funding will come from foreign sources.

[Khalid Ali]

Interesting development we know President xassan sheikh held talks with US aid last year and they are working on that , i saw today he met with the high ranking Pentagon officials including the US Secretary of defense Chuck Hagel. Is there a statement so far is the US willing to assist the Somali defence forces in Military aid imagine if the US gives Military aid to the SFG. Hassan should also ask the US pentagon officials if they can give military training to his troops an army can be reinstated once there is proper training and who gives better training than the US. US support for Somalia security branch is essential if the US is committed in supporting the Somali defense forces, than the Bantus wont be needed any more and can be send back to their homes. But is the US willing to cut off the pay checks it pays to African states, through their channels of Africom. If Amisom is no longer needed than countries such as burundi Kenya and Uganda Djibouti siera leone will no longer benefit from the European and American pay checks.

[sahal80]

Interesting development we know President xassan sheikh held talks with US aid last year and they are working on that , i saw today he met with the high ranking Pentagon officials including the US Secretary of defense Chuck Hagel. Is there a statement so far is the US willing to assist the Somali defence forces in Military aid imagine if the US gives Military aid to the SFG. Hassan should also ask the US pentagon officials if they can give military training to his troops an army can be reinstated once there is proper training and who gives better training than the US. US support for Somalia security branch is essential if the US is committed in supporting the Somali defense forces, than the Bantus wont be needed any more and can be send back to their homes. But is the US willing to cut off the pay checks it pays to African states, through their channels of Africom. If Amisom is no longer needed than countries such as burundi Kenya and Uganda Djibouti siera leone will no longer benefit from the European and American pay checks.

Woow this is really great. I think hassan sheekh is developing into an ally and has started involving in the regional and continental geopolitics. There is a somali hope under him.

I made the old thread after the invitation and it was about his national policies I was expecting only this and would they...but as you see kerry has added his position on syria and how they...this has changed the game abit. wallah hassan is too smart guy!

While you was away, the govt has changed amisom into a UN mission by early next year, this means first they would have international commanders, secondly any country can joint it.

[SomaliDefenceCouncil]

Very little will change.
Hassan Sheikh will still be dependent on Bantu troops to keep his Govt alive.
Most of his funding will come from foreign sources.

Khustomo who cares what you think, look at the state of your people

He really hates the president , if its in his Dna he would have shown the same sentiment towards Shariif but he did not .

Exactly it is in his DNA and his entire family, his father and mother groomed him from an early age to hate on us, to envy us.

Buuhoodle the center of Khastumo, half of it is in the ethiopian border and the other half the Somali border


On the Ethiopian side of Buuhoodle they've erected a statue for Meles



What I am trying to say is that be on guard and vigilante against them

In Talex they hold posters of Uhuru kenyatta thinking that it would cause any harm to the Somali state

[FAH1223]

Interesting development we know President xassan sheikh held talks with US aid last year and they are working on that , i saw today he met with the high ranking Pentagon officials including the US Secretary of defense Chuck Hagel. Is there a statement so far is the US willing to assist the Somali defence forces in Military aid imagine if the US gives Military aid to the SFG. Hassan should also ask the US pentagon officials if they can give military training to his troops an army can be reinstated once there is proper training and who gives better training than the US. US support for Somalia security branch is essential if the US is committed in supporting the Somali defense forces, than the Bantus wont be needed any more and can be send back to their homes. But is the US willing to cut off the pay checks it pays to African states, through their channels of Africom. If Amisom is no longer needed than countries such as burundi Kenya and Uganda Djibouti siera leone will no longer benefit from the European and American pay checks.

The US has the Afghanistan experience to think about with training troops and giving aid in a country that is effectively starting over.

[sahal80]

Thanks mr red your american info


SomaliDC

WTF are you thick or what? You just destroyed the thread and moved it to here

Pls edit your shyt, don't post unrelated pics and topic you just posted unrelated woman pic in this topic that is why I moved it here with a notice

I said to you do your shyt in your threads as you like but not in mine. Take them out!

The guy has experessed his opinion why do you need to comment after him? and if you do what has all this thyt got to do with what he said? Don't do that in here pls.