Somalia needs militarily unification & changes -lets discuss

[BuuloXubeey]

Currently today Somalia's military is in total disarray. From Saylac to Ras Kamboni.

We have no single military entity. From Puntland forces, SCC forces, Somaliland forces, Ahlu Sunna forces, Ras Kamboni forces and Government forces that merely contain a single clan depending where the government forces are located for the exception of Mogadishu which has somewhat diverse soldiers from all Somali clans.

I seriously believe Somalia will need to re-asses and focus on its military. Starting from the bottom. First by attracting people to join the Government forces through good salary. But also the government really needs to unite all these different fraction soldiers into one state militarily.

If we are opting for a federal government. I is totally stupid to have different military fractions for different federal region. This is a weakness to the military power of Somalia. The military must only have one order, this will strengthen the Somali army like it once used to be.

I have feeling that the international community does not want Somalia to have a organised military cause they know our potential strength if we establish a organised military. I have spoken to some MP's from my clan about this and still waiting for them to address this issue to the Prime Minister and the rest of parliament.

[Khalid Ali]

Why do you need an army when you have these guys

[BuuloXubeey]

Dude I have no time for ur childish/cuqdad/envious comments. Orod oo khat iska goos gooso, awalba waxaas ayaad ku fiican tihin.

[abdikarim86]

Focking little Boon Saylac afkaaga ka saar

[BuuloXubeey]

Focking little Boon Saylac afkaaga ka saar

Saylac has nothing to do with beesha iidoor. bloody akhiso

[Khalid Ali]

Ximan xaare when they say you are the most submissive and retarded walanweyn they are not joking. You are talking about building a central command and uniting the forces but you with your little brain isn't it first primarily important to reconcile and solve the political conflict between Somalis. 38% of Somalias land mass is not in agreement with the Somali federal goverment i am talking about the Puntland state of Somalia. How will faroole give you his blessing and build a central command with you when the 2 haven't agreed even on the implementation of the constitution of Somalia. Before one wants to walk one needs to learn how to stand up. And than you mentioned Somaliland , Somaliland has told the walanweyns aka the koonfurians that it want nothing to do with Somalia so how on earth are you going to build an army with people who dont regard you as their countrymen.

I will teach you step by step first reconciliation than resolving the political conflict and than you can talk about army and unifying and re integrating the various militias and entities. But i dont think that will ever happen or any time soon. The southern part will mostly be hawiye the SFG troops will mostly be hawiye and some run away eeleyes from shabaab. Puntland will keep its army and ofcourse the international community plus the uganda and burundi and Kenya receive funding and some kind of incentives from the international community. So its not in their interest to leave and i doubt the Koonfurians have the resources and political mechanism and even the will to resolve their problems. Dad adigoo maydhan ba ku jira oo raba inu qufac dhuuso dabeedna wuxu na weydin maxa urayaa

[Somali-Transporter]

The somali gov'ts number goal is Building a strong army.. they have some Irish and American trainers, the somali gov't have 10.000 + trained now as we speak but its not enough to take controll over the country and i know some of you Guys are thinking why do they need Amisom and why don't they bring the fight to al-shabaab.. if the gov't felt to get rid of al-shabaab they would have done a all out war on them.. but they don't want to do that bc of 2 reasons..

1. they have this camel they can milk all the time because of al-shabaab, and they want to milk it as long as they can. the Amisom forces is being paid 40 bil dollars by the United states of America.. they also don't want to finish of al-shabaab..

2. finishing them Means you will Waste alot of man power and you lose the camel WHO gives you milk all the time.


So they are planning to increase there trained soldiers up to 28.000 soldiers WHO will be armed. so the question is what is armed or heavily armed.

example. Kenya have been a gov't for a long time, they are poorly armed and one of the weakest nations on earth.. they have 76 tanks of a weak and old British tank from 1967 + a weak air force..

but Amisom are heavily armed with russian tanks named T-72, mini armored rayala, and other strong armored carriers + good small arms and extra round of bullets + good air force.. jets and helicopters.

Ethiopia is Africas strongest nation by far if you look at how well armed they are.. they have 500+ T-72, good air forces, great mini armored tanks, light tanks etc etc..

to arm Somali national army! you need 200+ T-72, rayala, and amisom's armored carriers + jets and helicopters and other small arms. I believe they will be enough armed to hold the elections in 2016.. thats there plan. the EU and UN also believes they can make this happen.. which is A realistic goal!

[BuuloXubeey]

Ximan xaare when they say you are the most submissive and retarded walanweyn they are not joking. You are talking about building a central command and uniting the forces but you with your little brain isn't it first primarily important to reconcile and solve the political conflict between Somalis. 38% of Somalias land mass is not in agreement with the Somali federal goverment i am talking about the Puntland state of Somalia. How will faroole give you his blessing and build a central command with you when the 2 haven't agreed even on the implementation of the constitution of Somalia. Before one wants to walk one needs to learn how to stand up. And than you mentioned Somaliland , Somaliland has told the walanweyns aka the koonfurians that it want nothing to do with Somalia so how on earth are you going to build an army with people who dont regard you as their countrymen.

I will teach you step by step first reconciliation than resolving the political conflict and than you can talk about army and unifying and re integrating the various militias and entities. But i dont think that will ever happen or any time soon. The southern part will mostly be hawiye the SFG troops will mostly be hawiye and some run away eeleyes from shabaab. Puntland will keep its army and ofcourse the international community plus the uganda and burundi and Kenya receive funding and some kind of incentives from the international community. So its not in their interest to leave and i doubt the Koonfurians have the resources and political mechanism and even the will to resolve their problems. Dad adigoo maydhan ba ku jira oo raba inu qufac dhuuso dabeedna wuxu na weydin maxa urayaa

You sound retarded and emotional. Keep your idiotic opinion to urself. I'm only discussing with my own people (16.5 regions of Somalia the half is Eastern Togdheer). I do not find no use to discuss with an akhiso iidoor wagaash. So please keep away from any discussion regards to 16.5 regions of Somalia. Dhulkaaga iyo madaxweynahaga hakugu filnaato.

[BuuloXubeey]

The somali gov'ts number goal is Building a strong army.. they have some Irish and American trainers, the somali gov't have 10.000 + trained now as we speak but its not enough to take controll over the country and i know some of you Guys are thinking why do they need Amisom and why don't they bring the fight to al-shabaab.. if the gov't felt to get rid of al-shabaab they would have done a all out war on them.. but they don't want to do that bc of 2 reasons..

1. they have this camel they can milk all the time because of al-shabaab, and they want to milk it as long as they can. the Amisom forces is being paid 40 bil dollars by the United states of America.. they also don't want to finish of al-shabaab..

2. finishing them Means you will Waste alot of man power and you lose the camel WHO gives you milk all the time.


So they are planning to increase there trained soldiers up to 28.000 soldiers WHO will be armed. so the question is what is armed or heavily armed.

example. Kenya have been a gov't for a long time, they are poorly armed and one of the weakest nations on earth.. they have 76 tanks of a weak and old British tank from 1967 + a weak air force..

but Amisom are heavily armed with russian tanks named T-72, mini armored rayala, and other strong armored carriers + good small arms and extra round of bullets + good air force.. jets and helicopters.

Ethiopia is Africas strongest nation by far if you look at how well armed they are.. they have 500+ T-72, good air forces, great mini armored tanks, light tanks etc etc..

to arm Somali national army! you need 200+ T-72, rayala, and amisom's armored carriers + jets and helicopters and other small arms. I believe they will be enough armed to hold the elections in 2016.. thats there plan. the EU and UN also believes they can make this happend.. which is A realistic goal!

Thanks for ur input and I'm happy that u agree that our military needs to be strengthened. We need a strong army to take control of the whole country not only to fight Al-Shabaab but to keep all regions in Somalia under one military command. Somalis need to separate federal administration and army. A federal state has no reason to have its own army and it's own command in terms of military.

[Khalid Ali]

The somali gov'ts number goal is Building a strong army.. they have some Irish and American trainers, the somali gov't have 10.000 + trained now as we speak but its not enough to take controll over the country and i know some of you Guys are thinking why do they need Amisom and why don't they bring the fight to al-shabaab.. if the gov't felt to get rid of al-shabaab they would have done a all out war on them.. but they don't want to do that bc of 2 reasons..

1. they have this camel they can milk all the time because of al-shabaab, and they want to milk it as long as they can. the Amisom forces is being paid 40 bil dollars by the United states of America.. they also don't want to finish of al-shabaab..

2. finishing them Means you will Waste alot of man power and you lose the camel WHO gives you milk all the time.


So they are planning to increase there trained soldiers up to 28.000 soldiers WHO will be armed. so the question is what is armed or heavily armed.

example. Kenya have been a gov't for a long time, they are poorly armed and one of the weakest nations on earth.. they have 76 tanks of a weak and old British tank from 1967 + a weak air force..

but Amisom are heavily armed with russian tanks named T-72, mini armored rayala, and other strong armored carriers + good small arms and extra round of bullets + good air force.. jets and helicopters.

Ethiopia is Africas strongest nation by far if you look at how well armed they are.. they have 500+ T-72, good air forces, great mini armored tanks, light tanks etc etc..

to arm Somali national defence! you need 200+ T-72, rayala, and amisom's armored carriers for soldiers are great + jets and helicopters and other small arms. I believe they will be enough armed to hold the elections 2016.. thats there plan! and the EU, and UN also believes they can make this happend.. which is A realistic goal!

Are you out of your mind Ethiopia's army is shitty it looks strong because Somalis are eating their xaar but they have a couple of Sukho 27 jets they have a huge army that is true and its well trained infantry but their equipment is very poor rusty old tanks. Egypt and South Africa and Morocco have better and much more technologized defense forces the egyptians have more than 150 abram tanks the best tank the Americans developed its equivalent to the to the israeli made merkava tank any way it will take years for Somalia rebuilds its army first they need to train them than to train them more than let them unleash them and combat shabaab and than maybe they have a militia strong enough to be the base of an army.

[Khalid Ali]

Ximan xaare when they say you are the most submissive and retarded walanweyn they are not joking. You are talking about building a central command and uniting the forces but you with your little brain isn't it first primarily important to reconcile and solve the political conflict between Somalis. 38% of Somalias land mass is not in agreement with the Somali federal goverment i am talking about the Puntland state of Somalia. How will faroole give you his blessing and build a central command with you when the 2 haven't agreed even on the implementation of the constitution of Somalia. Before one wants to walk one needs to learn how to stand up. And than you mentioned Somaliland , Somaliland has told the walanweyns aka the koonfurians that it want nothing to do with Somalia so how on earth are you going to build an army with people who dont regard you as their countrymen.

I will teach you step by step first reconciliation than resolving the political conflict and than you can talk about army and unifying and re integrating the various militias and entities. But i dont think that will ever happen or any time soon. The southern part will mostly be hawiye the SFG troops will mostly be hawiye and some run away eeleyes from shabaab. Puntland will keep its army and ofcourse the international community plus the uganda and burundi and Kenya receive funding and some kind of incentives from the international community. So its not in their interest to leave and i doubt the Koonfurians have the resources and political mechanism and even the will to resolve their problems. Dad adigoo maydhan ba ku jira oo raba inu qufac dhuuso dabeedna wuxu na weydin maxa urayaa

You sound retarded and emotional. Keep your idiotic opinion to urself. I'm only discussing with my own people (16.5 regions of Somalia the half is Eastern Togdheer). I do not find no use to discuss with an akhiso iidoor wagaash. So please keep away from any discussion regards to 16.5 regions of Somalia. Dhulkaaga iyo madaxweynahaga hakugu filnaato.

Stop mentioning our name than you filthy boon piglet , if i see you talk about us i will beat your boon skull with an Amisom boot i know u like that

[Somali-Transporter]

The Americans don't sell there tanks to countries just like that.. and by the way! T-72 is no joke sxb.. its the ak47 of the tank World.. Ethiopia is more armed then egypt, morocco and South africa..

we will find out 2016.. the elections! they know the military needs to be armed, and the UN have accepted to arm them. the somali gov't have nothing to lose really its EU, Turkey and US WHO will be the losers if this gov't fails. EU just invested in them 1.8bil, turkey have done there part and US paying for those Amisom, they are not there for free.. they cost them 40bil..

they want to milk all that Money back from somalis oil and other resources.. politics has no friends only interest.

[BuuloXubeey]

somali transporter,

Being armed/having the equipment is not important right now. What is important is to have a established organised military with discipline. We need to think and brain storm how to achieve this. Having a poorly organised military will not be useful even if you have the best equipment/weapons in the world.