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hiiraan post- young abdifatah

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i was never fun of this young powerful guy but one of the good qualities he had was being very ambitious, doesnt smoke or chew khat, very good at arabic as you can see by his handwriting...was good friend of sayf al islam al gaddafi where he got the money he established his maamul goboleedka dooxada shabelle before getting appointed as the governor of hiiraan in 2011at the age of 29 years old
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so you're telling us that this guy took on such a high post at the age of 29, dude isn't that a bit too young to run an entire region.

apart from being friend's with gadaffi''s son does he have any other qualities or past experience?
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wallah all somali politicians r corrupt and hes just one of them lakin when a person has ideology he always leaves some legacy behind so apart from establishing maamul in hiiraan he recently launched some agricultural projects using his arabic connections....

theres a huge egyptian project for beledweyne including al azhar school, hospital, modern villages and agricultural and live stock projects

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Gurikorkiisa ma ku nasataan? Only in beledweyne!
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I think one of them is an artist oo reer abti looyahay..ciidii beledweyne tagey.

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wow, beledweyn looks nice,

but all you told me so far is that Egyptians are coming to invest in agriculture in other words (land-grab) which has a catastrophic effect on local farmers, and in return they'll build couple of schools that's not a fair deal is it? dude most progressive regions are always regions where the locals build up their region instead of relying on outside help/investment,I will presume hiiraan has a large diaspora that can invest in their region move back there and open up factories and build up schools and ect, personally i believe in self reliance which is the key to success.


neways how bout the inter-clan fueds this region has lots of clan disputes and ect how this dude gonna overcome all that?
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Mate, egypt will be given a lease to invest in hiiraan, this will create a lot of people for jobs and facilities...lease means being paid for it not free....whats wrong with that?

but before that, three different egyptian sectors will launch free projects in beledweyne like the al azhar school with egyptian teachers, big hospital, modern village for shaqaalaha in outskirts of beledweyne

Lol there r no disputes in hiiraan. Maybe a place about 7km

in beledweyne hawadle r 75 percent, 90 percent in buuloburde and jalalaqsi....and this is not a claim bc I'm not ignorant person I can show you the map showin xaafadaha...... so even if there is clan settlements the project is bigger for hawadle...mida kale waa maamul ee maaha qabiil. all of them pay taxes for maamulka.

We will build a modern village between luuq jeelow and xaafada beledweyne on the west side of the river....we will build a place to keep a healthy live stock for exportation like this Inshallah. The formation of hiirshabelle state will not evect these agreements bc one of our conditions is that each clan should be responsible of its gobol affairs. TECHNICAL COMMITTEE WERE CANCELLED, hiiraan agaa keenay, abgaalna shabelada dhexe. Odowaa waa laga saarey!

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75%? Where is Nerdfresh... the only place Hawadle is 75% or more is Feerfeer
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dude, what about investment made by local ppl, what about local govt investment in infrastructure roads, irrigation systems and ect, you cant only rely on foreign capital, its self imprisonment, thats why you need a leader who has the expertise on how to handle all these afairs not a brother who finished school 5yrs ago, but i do agree with you on one thing all somali politicians are currupt fuks, but u should always strive to do better


honestly man how can u say beledweyn is 75% hwdle, neways how bout other clans that live with you in hiiraan how are they gonna be represented clans such as gljel, surre,hg(not sure), shidle and ect are you honestly gonna tell me that all of them combined are only 10%
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It's the resourceful lands of Hiiraan that make the women there so appealing.
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sav12600 wrote:dude, what about investment made by local ppl, what about local govt investment in infrastructure roads, irrigation systems and ect, you cant only rely on foreign capital, its self imprisonment, thats why you need a leader who has the expertise on how to handle all these afairs not a brother who finished school 5yrs ago, but i do agree with you on one thing all somali politicians are currupt fuks, but u should always strive to do better


honestly man how can u say beledweyn is 75% hwdle, neways how bout other clans that live with you in hiiraan how are they gonna be represented clans such as gljel, surre,hg(not sure), shidle and ect are you honestly gonna tell me that all of them combined are only 10%
lol sxb hiiraan is synonymous to hawadle like it or dont like it!

Do your math

Beledweyne is a very large town, it has 4 xaafad..two on the east and the other two on west of the river. 25 plus 25 plus 25 equals 75 these r exclusive to hawadle(xaawo taako, kooshin iyo buundoweyne )the remaining 25 is shared by gaaljecel, jejeele and jareer, its called hawlwadaag-pro-al shabab xaafad and where all the crimes r committed...some times they would fight each other and we used to intervene militarily throughout the 90s and 2000s...now theres an admin and police station

the whole town is hawadle except that tiny small houses side on the right hand of the river....if you can see the bridge its liiqliiqato....on its left its buundoweyne behind goofafka...waxaas waaye gugundhabaha HG iyo AW rabaan inay hiiraan ku hantaan Kkk

the map of the river thats how hiiraan is like from jalalaqsi to mustaxiil, green plain land.... bigger than our needs...as for local investment....diaspora has been going back to hiiraan and we have farmes that only exist in hiiraan...food is cheeper...

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Lol @ jalalaqsi and bulorbarde 90%. Hawadle live in North jalalaqsi and badi'cade live in south jalalaqsi with river dividing them kkkkkkk anyone can take a look at Google earth and see your propaganda. The river divides the two clans. Beledwehne u only control Western part and u share with ujejeen ur Mudulood slaveowner and few madhibaan and jareerweyne.bulbarde is majority gugundhabe which is why alshabab controlled bulbarde and Hawadle militia couldn't take it over. Amisom and Djibouti and Ethiopia had to capture it for you. U can't handle gugundhabe alone you are weak u need foreign help to take over jalalaqsi and bulorbarde which is gugundhabe stronghold. Even Western beledwehne u couldn't capture without the help of foreigners
On 7 August 2000, fighting broke out between the Hawadle and Jajeleh (Jajeele, Jejele) sub-clans in Belet Weyne (Belet Huen, Beledweyne) (UN-ECOSOC 13 Mar. 2001) in which the Galje'el (Galjel, Gaaljaal), "traditional allies of the Jajeleh," were also reportedly involved (AP 9 Aug. 2000). The Associated Press reported on 9 August 2000 that Belet Huen "is a divided city, with the Hawadle controlling the east and the Jajeleh and Galje'el controlling the western part of the town."
No one believe propaganda sahal. Everyone knows the truth about xawadle they only got 1 committee seat while HG got 2, Mudulood got 4 and gugundhabe got 3. Ilmo samatalis aka meyle samaale only 1. Everyone now knows the truth of Shabelle state and the powerless Hawadle clan. Political langaabs

President is abgal vp is Hg and the capital is jowhar and gugundhabe approves of this arrangement. U have no power. Only 1 committee spot. How politically irrelevant can u be even when u r culosows poodle.

Xawadle have bark but no bite. Waa naago

Look at Western beledwehne and eastern beledwehne sahal posted which is more densely populated.

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^

Why isolate Xawaadle as being Meyle Samaale when you purposely ignore that Galjeecel are not Gugundhabe but Saransoor Gardheere Samaale? Keep it real man.
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Galjecel mother is gugundhabe and are part of gugundhabe clan functions. The chief clan leader of gugundhabe is Galjecel. Murule badi'cade and jijeele are code gugundhabe and Galjecel r part of gugundhabe through maternal links. Don't divide gugundhabe. Galjecel view themselves as gugundhabe whether u like it or not

Hawadle or mayale as a whole has 1 committee seat. Shows their relevance in Shabelle state.

I keep it real by posting the truth of hiiraan.
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Ok

You forgot to add Jidle to your list.
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