HAG, What do you guys think of abdirahman abdishakur

[Typhoon]

whats wrong with this guy

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

He is well spoken not gonna lie. Personally i don't like him. I support Dahir maxamuud Gheelleh and Sheikh Shariif.

[Typhoon]

He is well spoken not gonna lie. Personally i don't like him. I support Dahir maxamuud Gheelleh and Sheikh Shariif.

he thinks he is the smartest in the room, while in every political turn he loses.
he speaks but what his point, he thinks somalis are like naive white woman voters, doesnt he know we consume politics like air.

this guy reminds me of cali khalif and professor samatar, all these guys think the are the smartest in the somali race because they ran with white people so they only have all the answers.


this guy undermines every president, he is one of the reason why some islamist went for farmaajo against hassan sheik.

this guy never cared of galmudug infact he hates ahlu sunnah but now the abgaal/xawadle have a state and harti daarood have a state and Ogadeen and sade have a state, habar gedir are in a rush to have a state.

He wants to be president lakin we all know there will never be habar gedir president, the best they can get is maybe PM and am not even sure weather xeerka daqanka somaliyeed will allow it.

xeer ba jira in ee habar gedir hoogaan weligeed uu qaban somali.

at one point somalis admired this guy more then cali geedi and salaad cali jeele but look how things turned around.

I learned one thing in somali politics, somaliwayn dont like habar gedir politicians and majerteen politicians hence your usual abgaal and marexaan leaders

[Nomand]

abgaal and majerteen have an alliance of abgaal president and MJ PM, which is probably their best chance of defeating N&N. i am not sure what HG will get out of that alliance, that alliance is basically to sideline HG the most then Marehan second.

[sahal80]

first that was a good move from shakur to back ahlussuna in his Galgaduud constituency.

secondly these days nothing different between HG and Abgaal as both are hiraabists and islamists. HG pro islamists like shakuur are pro UAE and have closer connections with PL and SL or lets us put it this way isaaq and mj than the Abgaal pro islamists who are pro turkey and Saudi arabia. you got abdulqadir osoble who calls xaram installing "sansmyo" in Xamar.....Abgaal are ikhwanisrs and salafists and shababists and their pro harti darod old skool have gone but HG are a diverse group; Sufis, pro UAE and turkey and their region is free from al shabaab 90% therefore they have more chances than Abgaal. its not about HG as a clan like the typical much hated HG its about the foreign powers and their somali satellite states. today OG and isaaq are cooperating bc of kenya. same goes for HG, MJ, isaaq there is a foreign exterior that unites them. so we have two HAG camps; the pro Turkey ikhwani camp led by Abgaal(sharif, hassan sh and HG fiqi) and the pro UAE HAG camp led by abdirahman abdi shakur
who believed Farmaajo could win without Qatar? its possible shakur to win as well for foreign factor.

there is the pro Qatar new Salafi/al ictisaam ex al itihad led by Fahad yasin who last time too cooperated with HG amd murursade ala sheekh(Daljir) after promising HG a pm. the qatar candidate who ever be Farmaajo or kheyre will be challenged by these two HAG groups(HG and Abgaal) so there is a scenario of UAE backing Hassan group(who ever leads) if shakur doesnt work bc of the likes of Sanbalolshe who works with SL and lets them have berbera .

[Typhoon]

first that was a good move from shakur to back ahlussuna in his Galgaduud constituency.

secondly these days nothing different between HG and Abgaal as both are hiraabists and islamists. HG pro islamists like shakuur are pro UAE and have closer connections with PL and SL or lets us put it this way isaaq and mj than the Abgaal pro islamists who are pro turkey and Saudi arabia. you got abdulqadir osoble who calls xaram installing "sansmyo" in Xamar.....Abgaal are ikhwanisrs and salafists and shababists and their pro harti darod old skool have gone but HG are a diverse group; Sufis, pro UAE and turkey and their region is free from al shabaab 90% therefore they have more chances than Abgaal. its not about HG as a clan like the typical much hated HG its about the foreign powers and their somali satellite states. today OG and isaaq are cooperating bc of kenya. same goes for HG, MJ, isaaq there is a foreign exterior that unites them. so we have two HAG camps; the pro Turkey ikhwani camp led by Abgaal(sharif, hassan sh and HG fiqi) and the pro UAE HAG camp led by abdirahman abdi shakur
who believed Farmaajo could win without Qatar? its possible shakur to win as well for foreign factor.

there is the pro Qatar new Salafi/al ictisaam ex al itihad led by Fahad yasin who last time too cooperated with HG amd murursade ala sheekh(Daljir) after promising HG a pm. the qatar candidate who ever be Farmaajo or kheyre will be challenged by these two HAG groups(HG and Abgaal) so there is a scenario of UAE backing Hassan group(who ever leads) if shakur doesnt work bc of the likes of Sanbalolshe who works with SL and lets them have berbera .

you think this is pre 2016 when the world wanted to appease hawiye and islamist, that uppertunity is gone bro.

the international community and the somali intelectuals came to the conclusion hawiye does not have organised political base hence why they cant mount credible resistance to al shabab.
as for the islamist, sharif and HSM were used to divide the islamist movement and show the moderate factions a road to power but when sharif and HSM failed it was clear that the islamist in somalia might have economic power but they lack political, public support due to power of somali nationalism, hence farmaajo.

the americans and its security services are fed up with suit and tie warring somali islamist

as for the boogyman fahad yasin, the guy got no power whats so ever, the real laison between federal goverment and qatar is abdirisaq taano(reer siyaad voltage uncle)

the reason why fahad yasin moved to nisa is because the islamist were filling up the bureaucracy with islamist and passing classified information to al shabab

if fahad yasin was a foreign agent the americans would have blocked him years ago and the only person that gets top secret classified information in somalia is farmaajo, no one ells.

you are talking about qatar and uae and some ragtag fiefdom when uncle sam is in mogadishu(remember american new policy includes, economic, diplomatic and milatery support of the federal government)


General townsend is even more hardcore then Gen walthouser when it comes to support of farmaajo

somali policy is made by to section of american institutions, donald yamamoto/somali desk state department and the pentagon, both of them are expert on somali politics and power play

yamamoto is the guy that keeps ethiopia, uae, kenya and qatar in line thats why kenya is is facing major pressure on jubaland election and hence why madoobe cant get legitimacy




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[sahal80]

Fahad yasin is married to abdikadir taanos niece that tells you much how he get that post!

your deluded person who dont believe that farmaajo was created by fahad yasin and HAGits who were after the pm post. you think it has to do with great mx


i ignored you putting hawadle after abgaal in hirshabelle but now i see how you belitteling sanbalolshe. you put mx after OG and calling puntland a harti wich is a generalization every body knows puntland is primarily maxamud saleebaan why not givr hawadle their right place? . if Farmaajo goes to jowhar he will be received by waare. anaga iyo abgaal are allies umlike you and OGs. we lead the state and let for them to manage their side and we manage our side.

this is Hirshabelle and hiiraan. both are hawadle



as for sanbalolshe these two links will show you whats his role. this guy is gonna be interior minister if his group wins and he will damage your dblock interests forever! we make the revolution of HAG we dont care who leads HAG

[Typhoon]

Fahad yasin is married to abdikadir taanos niece that tells you much how he get that post!

your deluded person who dont believe that farmaajo was created by fahad yasin and HAGits who were after the pm post. you think it has to do with great mx


i ignored you putting hawadle after abgaal in hirshabelle but now i see how you belitteling sanbalolshe. you put mx after OG and calling puntland a harti wich is a generalization every body knows puntland is primarily maxamud saleebaan why not givr hawadle their right place? . if Farmaajo goes to jowhar he will be received by waare. anaga iyo abgaal are allies umlike you and OGs. we lead the state and let for them to manage their side and we manage our side.

this is Hirshabelle and hiiraan. both are hawadle



as for sanbalolshe these two links will show you whats his role. this guy is gonna be interior minister if his group wins and he will damage your dblock interests forever! we make the revolution of HAG we dont care who leads HAG

you just proofed my point, if you want to be somebody in somalia you have to be marexaan or be married into marexaan

kheyre married to marexan, fahad yasin maried to marexaan

who cares about coalition of the willing, all road lead to marexaan, just like kacaan days.

were is xawadle sahal, just admit that xawadle is krishbooy and i will leave you alone

sahal ware farmaajo ba masuul ka ah, he wanted to act laandheere like the kablalax boys but we showed him who is the boss, anaka masuul ka ah hirshabelle iyo xawadle

sahal farmaajo is in beledwayne start lobbying by the way he is bh ogadeen sinjid ahaan bu xawadle uu necebyahay

[sahal80]

its the other way farmaajo martied to murursade, picked for pm by a murursade, backed by a murursade led party in the last elections so its nor normal the guy they made all the way to pick for them a pm.

the point is my friend he is made by HAG not mx they dont even count to what murursade did for him.


Farmaajo is the feresedint of the federal govt not even Somalia that is misleading bc he cant go to kismaayo and PL without their permission

waare is mucaarad he os not Farmasjo puppet he took money that is it! if you are his boss why you paying him? his second argument is keeping the state together to avoid what happened in Galmudug but he said im waiting for the day Galmudug is back, HAG are more united to be like PL and JL.

the point is my friend i lead a state per constitution i can be bu chance like farmaajo the president of the federal govt. never heard of sh ali jimcaale? at that time when we had 6 mps you had 3 mps! siyaasada waa idinkaga horeeynay. but you YOU HAVE NO regional power whatsoever!

ok your gettung emogional as always making calaacal about a guy who defends his people saying he used to be against them wtf? its bc you know only them matter in Galmudug!

im out!

[Typhoon]

its the other way farmaajo martied to murursade, picked for pm by a murursade, backed by a murursade led party in the last elections so its nor normal the guy they made all the way to pick for them a pm.

the point is my friend he is made by HAG not mx they dont even count to what murursade did for him.


Farmaajo is the feresedint of the federal govt not even Somalia that is misleading bc he cant go to kismaayo and PL without their permission

waare is mucaarad he os not Farmasjo puppet he took money that is it! if you are his boss why you paying him? his second argument is keeping the state together to avoid what happened in Galmudug but he said im waiting for the day Galmudug is back, HAG are more united to be like PL and JL.

the point is my friend i lead a state per constitution i can be bu chance like farmaajo the president of the federal govt. never heard of sh ali jimcaale? at that time when we had 6 mps you had 3 mps! siyaasada waa idinkaga horeeynay. but you YOU HAVE NO regional power whatsoever!

ok your gettung emogional as always making calaacal about a guy who defends his people saying he used to be against them wtf? its bc you know only them matter in Galmudug!

im out!

who cares about 60s mps didnt we destroy dawladaas and bring about the glorious revolution

second, am the vice president of galmudug, vice president of jubaland and the president of somaliwayn
we have the second largest mp in galmudug and second largest mp in jubaland and second largest mp among the daarood xildibaan

as for jubaland its ogaden and marexaan clan allaince its reer abdulle, reer ahmed reer hassan and talxe vs, makahiil, reer farah ugaas and cawliyahan= basicly you might aswell call jubaland dawlada beesha absade

sahal saxib i like but laangaabnimada ma qiratid

first admit inaad laangaab tahay and then we find a solution to your genetically predisposed dilema

[Nubis]

[sahal80]

btw kheyre divorced his cali dheere old wife before he became a pm and married to saaq a month a go before farmaajo became president.. i used to say his was mx and voltage used to say isaaq now i know the mx was the mother of his children and he divorced her. he has younger isaaq wife.


yeah farmaajo pick him for his mx wife kkkk

[Voltage]

Fahad yasin is married to abdikadir taanos niece that tells you much how he get that post!

First of all his name is Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano, not Cabdiqaadir.

Second of all, FARMAAJO's decision (walaa Kheyre, walaa Fahad, walaa heblaayo had nothing to do with this...I will explain at the end) to name Taano as Qatar Ambassador was very personal and very strategic for Farmaajo.

Let me just say you're always popping off about Marehan and things you don't know anything about. First of all, I am the one that even told you about that marriage connection in another similar topic you knew even less. You probably asked around afterwards and put together more conjecture.

Ku lahaa Cabdirisaaq got his post as Ambassador to Qatar because of a little kid Fahad who is his in-law. This is the kind of childish shit this guy comes with.

You're talking about Cabdirisaaq Faarax TAANO. Ilma Faarax Taano are one of the most powerful families in Marehan and Somalia as a whole.

For example, do you know who Cabdirisaaq's older brother is? IDAAJAA Faarax Taano

Here Marehan begged Idaajaa out of retirement so he can personally take the new Ugaas of Sade under his wings and teach him everything about Somali history, dhaqan, preparing him for Ugaasnimada Marehan; one of the most powerful and influential traditional leaders in Somalia.

The new Ugaas of Sade was finally deemed ready just this past summer to finally replace his old, ailing uncle who held the post temporarily for him for so long.

In this pic, Idaajaa is there in red shirt, still supervising the Ugaas as he introduces himself to his people. This pic is in the Wagardhac town of Dhabad in Galmudug.





Now to Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano.

When the civil war happened, we all know about the rise of Al Itihad..first in Bari then in Gedo. It was the hope of all the political Islamists in the darkest time of the civil war.

Basically like when the ICU rose, it contained all the Al Shabaab types, the Hisbul Islam type, the Dam Jadeed types, the Ala Sheekh times. Basically all the political Islamist united to drive the warlords out whether these Islamists had international terrorist ambitions or were conservative nationalists.

So when Al Itihad rose and formed its very first administration in Gedo, it was the hope of all political Islam including Al ISLAAX which was the ideology of Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano and is the overall ideology of Dam Jadeed (Hassan Dh, Farax Abdikadir, Fahad Yasin, rtc).

At that time in 1994, when Al Itihad (representing all of political Islam) declared its first administration in Gedo; Islamic humanitarian aid started to flow to Somalia through through them.

At that time there was A LOT OF OVERLAP between SNF and Al Itihad even though they were two different groups with different objectives;

1. They were both led by Marehan (Gen Omar Haji Masalleh as SNF chairman and Sh Mohamed Xaaji Yuusuf as Al Itihad chairman)
2. Their support base and fighters were primarily Marehan (although the UN estimated 20% of Al Itihad were different non-Marehan)
3. They both fought to defeat USC and Aideed in southwest Somalia

CABDIRISAAQ FAARAX TAANO being a well educated moderate Islamist who spoke fluent Arabic and a degree from KING SAUD UNIVERSITY in Riyaad became the guy to organize and manage this aid for Marehan and Al Itihad.

At that time his residency was partly in the Netherlands and even came to influence European aid access.

Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano basically became a a sort of "FOREIGN MINISTER" for all the Islamic oriented humanitarian agencies working in Somalia and the man EVERYONE involved in this industry had to go through.

For instance, Mogadishu port was closed and dangerous so aid to Mogadishu was sent to LUUQ where it would be received and then the guys organized by Cabdirisaa would further pass it to the guys working in Mogadishu.

Same for Marka, Barawa, Kismaayo, Baydhabo, etc.

Cabdirisaaq was basically the spider in the spiderweb. That's how he became one of the most important connections for AS ISLAAX groups before they even had any official organization.

I am not sure but this is how Fahad Yasin may have been introduced to Islamic agencies. Through this sponsorshop with close family who were the most influential when aid starting to flow in. Also probably Hassan Sh would certainly have developed a very strong friendship then because Hassan Sheekh first named Cabdirisaaq as AMBASSADOR TO OMAN.

Anyways, we know the story of Alitihad...about how Al Islax, including Cabdirisaaq, and them would separate because of Al Itihad's extremism, that Ethiopia would invade, aid would dry up, etc etc etc.

FAST FORWARD TO 2007.

Basically Cabdirisaaq was living and working in Kismaayo having brought back Doctors Without Borders. He was working on accessing more aid to Gedo and Kismaayo before Cabdullahi Yusuf messed everything up.

The Abdullahi Yusuf government is in control of KISMAAYO after the Ethiopians kicked ICU out. Abdullahu Yusuf names a Kablalax administration headed by Col Afgaduud (MJ) and Col Koojaar (Ogaden).

This is exactly like Kismaayo today...a foreign government had troops in Kismaayo where they just removed a Islamic group and the group who rode in with the foreign army was Kablalax.

As we know, ETHIOPIA VACATED KISMAAYO AND LESS THAN COUPLE DAYS Marehan clashed with the Yusuf Administration and chased them out.

Odayaasha Beesha Sade oo go’aanno ka soo saaray sugidda Ammaanka Magaalada Kismaayo

Axad, June 24, 2007(HOL): Odayaasha iyo Waxgaradka Beesha ay Ciidamadeedu ka talinayaan magaalada Kismaayo ee Gobolka Jubbada Hoose ayaa maanta waxay soo saareen go’aanno lagu sugayo ammaanka Magaaladaas.

...

Shirkan ay go’aannada ka soo baxeen ee ay Odayaasha Beesha Sade ku yeesheen Magaalada Kismaayo ayaa wuxuu ku soo beegmayaa iyadoo dhawaan uu dagaal ku dhexmaray Magaaladaas duleedkeeda labo ciidan oo ka wada tirsan Dowladda Federaalka, iyadoo dagaalkaasna ay ku dhinteen dad ka badan 15 ruux.

https://www.hiiraan.com/news/2007/jun/w ... 4-1435.htm

CABDIRISAAQ FAARAX TAANO WAS ELECTED BY THE MAREHAN OF KISMAAYO AS HEAD OF THE CITY AFTER THE FIGHT.

Kismayo Mayor Dr. Abdirazak Taano Returns Too Kismayo

PostWed Oct 17, 2007 11:47 am

Greeted outside the city warmly.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=132935

Marehan held the town until Al Shabaab's resurgence in 2008 which took over everything back at which point Cabdirisaaq left.

In 2015, Xassan-Rubeeti (Siad Barre's son) became very sick and told the Somali gov he could no longer continue as Ambassador to Oman.

Xassan was part of Siad Barre's family which bad been given asylum and treated very well by Sultan Qaboos since the 90's. He was basically Ambassador from Somalia for Life since he lived there

Long after Fahad fell out with Hassan Sh and Dam Jadeed and had no influence, Hassan Sh talked to Marehan and said who do you want to replace Xassan Rubeeti and they said Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano.

So Hassan Sheekh named Cabdirisaaq as Ambassador to Oman in 2015



FINALLY, Farmaajo's decision to change Cabdirisaaq from Oman to Qatar is something I know very well.

It all had to do with the decision not to cut ties with Qatar after Saudi/UAE try to force us.

Remember what I said;

1. Cabdirsaaq has Bachelor's from King Saud University (he did his masters in the Netherlands).
2. He is a fluent Arabic speaker whose knowledge of Arabs, their culture, and mindset is top notch.
3. He is a MASTER at requesting/soliciting/organizing aid.
4. He has a STRONG/TRUSTED reputation in Islamic humanitarian aid networks to Somalia.

Basically the more important our links with Qatar became and for Farmaajo personally, the more it became apparent to Farmaajo just who needed to fill that seat that he could trust will have his back 100% and could deliver with his knowledge and experience in accessing funds and aid from the country that had become our biggest source in the Middle East.

This wasn't just a "oooh who to name Ambassador to Zambia" to placate some koox/tribe kind of thing. This was one of the most delicate and personal decisions Farmaajo needed to make about our (and his own personal) links to a country that had become an existential lifeline for Somalia in recent times.

Farmaajo only told ONE person about this decision before he even offered it to Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano.

After he got the idea, Farmaajo spoke with his most closest advisor Col Abdi Osman-Nuur (officially his "military/security advisor") who is also reer Siyaad Diini like Cabdirisaaq Faarax Taano.

After that, Farmaajo called Taano up and told him to get on the next flight to and come to Villa Somalia.

Farmaajo offered the role to Taano with Cabdi Cusmaan between them and Taano accepted knowing how crucial his new post was going to be.

There's that.

[Voltage]

btw kheyre divorced his cali dheere old wife before he became a pm and married to saaq a month a go before farmaajo became president.. i used to say his was mx and voltage used to say isaaq now i know the mx was the mother of his children and he divorced her. he has younger isaaq wife.

You're welcome. There's nothing about Marehan that you can argue with me about that I don't know.

Btw. She's not "just" Marehan/Cali Dheere. She's reer Yaroow which has huge implications for Mareexaanka Kismaayo.

Also doesn't this guy know that Kheyre's first wife and the mother of his children is reer MADOOBE YAROOW. Does he even know that family was along with Uunlaaye the Mj and Cascaseey Siad Barre's cousin the third most richest and biggest land owning family in Kismaayo???

Reer Yaroow are MAREEXAAN/CALI DHEERE. The Suldaan of Marehan in Jubooyinka is Mohamed Madoobe Yaroow, the first cousin of Kheyre's children's mom. The Suldaan gave the wilaayad of her to Kheyre

Ironically enough, she's now based in Nairobi having relocated from Norway after getting married to one of the richest Ogaadeen guys in Kenya.

[AbdiWahab252]

Abdirahman lacks charisma. He needs a better strategy and should start by building his support base beyond Xamar. He needs to tour the HG hinterland and present an alternative agenda to Farmaajo. Right now his agenda is just being a critic but one with no agenda or coalition building.