Places Facaye settle in the Horn

[Gashireedle]

I heard there are some there are many in the southern region of Afar and they are preodominately from the Higsed sub clan, they live in Gabi Rasu and Hari Rasu, there are also many who live in Northern Shewa, Adis Ababa and Hararghe, in Somalia they can be found in Jilib, Beerxani, Jamame, Bardher, Ceel Waaq, Garrisa and Wajir, does anyone have any details about them or know any other places they settle?

[Gubbet]

[Gubbet]

From this account almost 200 years ago, the plains between Garba Ciise and the Barudadda Afar land until the Hawash River are called the plains of Marehan (Merihan) and the hills are called the peaks of Facaye (Feyo)

The Highlands of Ethiopia
By Sir William Cornwallis Harris
Published by Longman, Brown, Green and Longmans, London.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/35369/35369-8.txt

• This edition dated 1844.

  The rainy season having now fairly set in, it was believed that the
  pools on the upper road would furnish a sufficient supply of water, and
  the course was accordingly shaped towards it. Emerging upon the
  extensive plain of Merihan, bounded to the westward by the lofty peaked
  range of Feeoh, the route skirted the Bundoora hills, thickly clothed
  with grass, and varying in height from six hundred to a thousand feet.
  Wayess, the chief of the Woema, formerly held his head-quarters in this
  neighbourhood, at Hagaio-dera-dubba; but the Eesah Somauli making
  frequent inroads, and at last sweeping off all the cattle of the tribe,
  it was abandoned.

This is a map from medieval times showing the same "Fiao" in the same land

• Distant past
  

This is a map of "Marehanni" and "Mt. Feyo" in the same land with "Horisammadaga" (Howraarsame degay; today part of Barudadda)

• From the 1800's
  

This is a British topographical map showing "Fa'aio" near "Merihan" valley in the same area just a little south of Lake Assal, Djibouti;

• From the 1900's
  

[Gubbet]

Btw this geographical area is historically simply the kingdom of "Mara."

The kingdom of "Mara" is one of the constituent halves that formed the Sultanate of Adal after merging with .Zeila.

Almost no one who is Somali in the gazillion of discussions surrounding Adal that I have seen has ever shown the awareness that like Great Britain formed from the merger of the kingsoms of Scotland and England----"Adal" formed from the merger of Mara + Zeila.

This led to the development of Harar as the capital between them.

[Gashireedle]

From this account almost 200 years ago, the plains between Garba Ciise and the Barudadda Afar land until the Hawash River are called the plains of Marehan (Merihan) and the hills are called the peaks of Facaye (Feyo)

The Highlands of Ethiopia
By Sir William Cornwallis Harris
Published by Longman, Brown, Green and Longmans, London.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/35369/35369-8.txt

• This edition dated 1844.

  The rainy season having now fairly set in, it was believed that the
  pools on the upper road would furnish a sufficient supply of water, and
  the course was accordingly shaped towards it. Emerging upon the
  extensive plain of Merihan, bounded to the westward by the lofty peaked
  range of Feeoh, the route skirted the Bundoora hills, thickly clothed
  with grass, and varying in height from six hundred to a thousand feet.
  Wayess, the chief of the Woema, formerly held his head-quarters in this
  neighbourhood, at Hagaio-dera-dubba; but the Eesah Somauli making
  frequent inroads, and at last sweeping off all the cattle of the tribe,
  it was abandoned.

This is a map from medieval times showing the same "Fiao" in the same land

• Distant past
  

This is a map of "Marehanni" and "Mt. Feyo" in the same land with "Horisammadaga" (Howraarsame degay; today part of Barudadda)

• From the 1800's
  

This is a British topographical map showing "Fa'aio" near "Merihan" valley in the same area just a little south of Lake Assal, Djibouti;

• From the 1900's
  

Correct, the regions in between Fafaan zone all the way to Adis Ababa were historically Mareexan and all most every single Mareexan sub clan has huge portions of their sub clan in this area, I theorize the south was dominated by Mareexan and the north (Afar, Northen Shewa and Djibouti) were dominated by Facaye, however due to the influx of Oromo in the area, the arrival of the Aussa sultanate and the huge waves of Mareexan migrations to the central and southern regions of Somalia, our clan became weak and vulnerable and thus joined into these new tribes. The founders of Adis Ababa are even Howrarsame and refer to themselves as "Howrarsadi." What I find odd about Facaye is there is barely any oral history which retains information about them and the Futax provides no mention of them taking part in the war.

People often try to say that Mareexan look Ethiopian, when in reality we settled with them, ruled them, joined them and married into them, the Afar I have seen look even more Sade than Sade themselves and iska dhal Mareexan tend to have these features similar to them than the rest of Somalis, I've seen Mareexan dna tests and they all come out as 100% Somali and have the same haplogroup as their other Darood kin.

The town of Massawa is still dominated by Mareexan, the Amarar, Beni Amir and Hadenoa, who are off shoots of Mareexan still live in the city and dominate it. Amarar has 4 sub clans just like Amareer and one is called Wagardhac, Hadendoa sounds like Hodanbari and Beni Amir are probably the descendants of Raadamir, they use the word "nabtab" similar to nasab in the Somali language to describe the real descendants of Amir.

You can find Mareexan all across Ethiopia, even as far as Wollega in Amhara and Habar Ciise deep in Gondar and the Reer Cismaan in Wollo, in fact they even make songs in their languages about Sade, if this small portion of Sade in Somalia alone is this dominant over the country and it's politics alone, imagine if it was all of Sade, I don't even think we are more than 10% of Sade. Some people even say that Abiy Ahmed is descended from Sade as he is from a region which has many Mareexan.

[Gubbet]

What I find interesting is the existence, presence, and/or relevance of "Marehan"---a Somali clan that today lives within or around the central or southern borders of Somalia---in the socio-cultural history and heritage of the Afar people. This is not just noteworthy ---this is singularly unique. No other Somali clan that I have seen shares this including the Issa who today neighbor them.

Beyond the modern era, Marehan is not just evident in place naming or anthropological identifications, but is evoked in their oral history and associative tools of imagination for the purpose of remembering the past.

There is an Afar on Twitter I used to casually read with the handle Aseb2Aden, but it seems they might have deleted their account. The individual shared the following poem in the Afar language which contained the reference "Crossed the fog of Marrehan." The Afar contextualized it as Afar having defeated the "Marehan Somali clan" who having been a dominant power were encroached upon successfully by the Afar;

A copy of that old material has been saved in this tweet;



Btw in spite of that contextualization, the reference, and the modern place naming---or rather despite it---other Afar, displaying interesting familiarity with Marehan oddly enough, questioned the connection;



A question which is more explained by lack of knowledge about the subject matter because it is not just the similarity of the "Marehan" name that is the only, or even the main, reason for what is implicated here as the discussion in this topic about "Fa'ayo" shows so brilliantly.

No it is not just or even because of only the "Marehan" connection ---but the Fa'aye connection, as well as the Hawlrarsame connection, as well the Diini connection ---there is an indictment here encompassing the entire Marehan clan historical, sociological, and even genealogical structure and institutions!

As can be displayed by a different representation of the written and cartographic record provided above concerning "Fa'aye."




Btw the Afar didn't "defeat" Marehan per se in my historical theorizing on this.

It is rather after the Ali Da'ud dynasty of the "Emirate" of Harar was born following a "coup" against the Adal Sultanate presided over until then by the dynasty resulting from Emir Nur who succeeded Imam Gragne----the Sultanate of Adal retreated from Harar north to the desert oasis of Aussa which was ethnically "Afar" by then.

The Sultan of Adal, with nominal authority over the land of "Adal" (including Harar although de facto under the control of the Ali Da'ud dynasty that would famously rule it as an emirate city-state until the capture by Menelik), essentially became "hosted" by the Afars of Aussa which replaced for the first time the Somali importance with regards to Adal which until then had sort of been the "hosting" or "intimately" implicated people-group indispensable to the defense and protection of the Sultanate.

As the Aussa Sultans of Adal lost more and more touch with Somalis, becoming more and more dependent on the Afars of Aussa---eventually the Afars would decapitate the Sultanate of Adal by pulling a 2nd coup against the Sultanate ending its long sickly existence since the Harar coup by Ali Da'ud with the declaration of the "Afar" Sultanate of "Aussa" on the gravesite of the now disposed of "Sultanate of Adal."

The , very important key, to understanding the "Marehan" questions presented in this topic, as well as I believe a lot of questions surrounding the modern genesis of the current Somali clan/Xeer systems, including the sudden combustions or formations of the "Sultans/Ugases/Imams/Garads/Malaqs, etc" forming the beginning of the xeer or clan units implicated in the modern Somali tribal segmentation, are questions which I absolutely believe have their answers in this dark, cloudy, hazy historical period between the Ali Da'ud dynasty coming to power in Harar successfully in a coup against the Sultanate of Adal and the Afar Sultanate coming to power in Aussa successfully disposing or ending the Sultanate of Adal.

Reconstructing that time period is absolutely the key to all of this.

In it, I believe, is contained the explanation or link or connection, trajectory, etc of the Marehan historical implication in the land of old Adal and the Marehan modern implication far to the east of old Adal.

Or in other words, synergizing the very obviously prominent question before us;

Subjective Afar oral history remembers defeating "Marehan

Objective history records the Afar defeating the Sultanate of Adal

∆Marehan =?= ∆Sultanate of Adal

???

[SadSayyid]

Thanks for the analysis, I saw those tweets a while back as well.

Here you have one clan defending their claim to a territory using the justification of a hundreds year old claim of "Marehan", not Dir equity or Somali equity but a sub-clan of Darod.

On the other hand you have one clan dispossessing another Somali clan, because a few hundred years ago this city was supposedly described as "the capital of Hawiye country". Looking to claim all of Lower Shabelle as well.

What a contrast.

What do we see today though? Their leadership under f-king "Urur-Samaale".

I saw you apologising for genocidal hawiye on another thread, I didn't want to shit on your post but since I have you here take a look at this tweet for me.



This is how HAG and others see Central Somalia, I don't care if we're able to defend grazing lands. Simply being in a political arrangement is illogical to me. I'd much rather swallow my pride and seek and arrangment with OG and push to form Galgaduud-Sare.

Watch this video from 4:41

[Gashireedle]

What I find interesting is the existence, presence, and/or relevance of "Marehan"---a Somali clan that today lives within or around the central or southern borders of Somalia---in the socio-cultural history and heritage of the Afar people. This is not just noteworthy ---this is singularly unique. No other Somali clan that I have seen shares this including the Issa who today neighbor them.

Beyond the modern era, Marehan is not just evident in place naming or anthropological identifications, but is evoked in their oral history and associative tools of imagination for the purpose of remembering the past.

There is an Afar on Twitter I used to casually read with the handle Aseb2Aden, but it seems they might have deleted their account. The individual shared the following poem in the Afar language which contained the reference "Crossed the fog of Marrehan." The Afar contextualized it as Afar having defeated the "Marehan Somali clan" who having been a dominant power were encroached upon successfully by the Afar;

A copy of that old material has been saved in this tweet;



Btw in spite of that contextualization, the reference, and the modern place naming---or rather despite it---other Afar, displaying interesting familiarity with Marehan oddly enough, questioned the connection;



A question which is more explained by lack of knowledge about the subject matter because it is not just the similarity of the "Marehan" name that is the only, or even the main, reason for what is implicated here as the discussion in this topic about "Fa'ayo" shows so brilliantly.

No it is not just or even because of only the "Marehan" connection ---but the Fa'aye connection, as well as the Hawlrarsame connection, as well the Diini connection ---there is an indictment here encompassing the entire Marehan clan historical, sociological, and even genealogical structure and institutions!

As can be displayed by a different representation of the written and cartographic record provided above concerning "Fa'aye."




Btw the Afar didn't "defeat" Marehan per se in my historical theorizing on this.

It is rather after the Ali Da'ud dynasty of the "Emirate" of Harar was born following a "coup" against the Adal Sultanate presided over until then by the dynasty resulting from Emir Nur who succeeded Imam Gragne----the Sultanate of Adal retreated from Harar north to the desert oasis of Aussa which was ethnically "Afar" by then.

The Sultan of Adal, with nominal authority over the land of "Adal" (including Harar although de facto under the control of the Ali Da'ud dynasty that would famously rule it as an emirate city-state until the capture by Menelik), essentially became "hosted" by the Afars of Aussa which replaced for the first time the Somali importance with regards to Adal which until then had sort of been the "hosting" or "intimately" implicated people-group indispensable to the defense and protection of the Sultanate.

As the Aussa Sultans of Adal lost more and more touch with Somalis, becoming more and more dependent on the Afars of Aussa---eventually the Afars would decapitate the Sultanate of Adal by pulling a 2nd coup against the Sultanate ending its long sickly existence since the Harar coup by Ali Da'ud with the declaration of the "Afar" Sultanate of "Aussa" on the gravesite of the now disposed of "Sultanate of Adal."

The , very important key, to understanding the "Marehan" questions presented in this topic, as well as I believe a lot of questions surrounding the modern genesis of the current Somali clan/Xeer systems, including the sudden combustions or formations of the "Sultans/Ugases/Imams/Garads/Malaqs, etc" forming the beginning of the xeer or clan units implicated in the modern Somali tribal segmentation, are questions which I absolutely believe have their answers in this dark, cloudy, hazy historical period between the Ali Da'ud dynasty coming to power in Harar successfully in a coup against the Sultanate of Adal and the Afar Sultanate coming to power in Aussa successfully disposing or ending the Sultanate of Adal.

Reconstructing that time period is absolutely the key to all of this.

In it, I believe, is contained the explanation or link or connection, trajectory, etc of the Marehan historical implication in the land of old Adal and the Marehan modern implication far to the east of old Adal.

Or in other words, synergizing the very obviously prominent question before us;

Subjective Afar oral history remembers defeating "Marehan

Objective history records the Afar defeating the Sultanate of Adal

∆Marehan =?= ∆Sultanate of Adal

???

This is fascinating, but I still wonder why Facaye is never mentioned in any of this history, they had a presence in the region yet are never spoken about in the history of Adal nor the time when the Afars took over, however I'm sure the Afarised Facaye and Mareexan have retained their history and we can get some information from thek the lam on what happened during this period of time, for some reason they seem to barely claim their roots, the Afarised Harti have already spoken up and begun their Harti identification and renounced being Afar, when Sade get absorbed some where they never come back. I heard a story of a guy in Adis Ababa who came across a very Somali looking Afar fellow, he went up to the man and began speaking Somali to him and he responded he didn't speak the language and explained to him how he was originally Facaye. We need to take action and begin communicating with our absorbed kin in Afar and make them identify with Sade.
Today it's the Ciise Somalis who are taking back the lands which the Afar xooged and they are most likely descended from Mareexan.

[Ghiklo]

Thanks for the analysis, I saw those tweets a while back as well.

Here you have one clan defending their claim to a territory using the justification of a hundreds year old claim of "Marehan", not Dir equity or Somali equity but a sub-clan of Darod.

On the other hand you have one clan dispossessing another Somali clan, because a few hundred years ago this city was supposedly described as "the capital of Hawiye country". Looking to claim all of Lower Shabelle as well.

What a contrast.

What do we see today though? Their leadership under f-king "Urur-Samaale".

I saw you apologising for genocidal hawiye on another thread, I didn't want to shit on your post but since I have you here take a look at this tweet for me.



This is how HAG and others see Central Somalia, I don't care if we're able to defend grazing lands. Simply being in a political arrangement is illogical to me. I'd much rather swallow my pride and seek and arrangment with OG and push to form Galgaduud-Sare.

Watch this video from 4:41

Thank you. Urur Samaale is actually a real thing. People think it is just a meme but how can you explain away this Guled Wiliq guy. Offtopic, but Caabudwaaq should join K5 and leave Galmudug.

[Gubbet]

Guled Wiliq is not an intelligent man, and I don't just mean conceptually or cognitively---I mean biologically and developmentally. No human at his age displays the rawness, even tenderness, if barmy callowness which at this point is so striking as to preclude this isn't elementally who he is. What he considers relevant to share is merely what can be interpreted as "excitable" to someone of that innocent perspective. I have no interest to respond or address it substantively.

With regards to "Hawiye" and being mentioned in connection to Merca by Maqrizi---that is false.

What was mentioned in connection to Merca is "Zawiya" or Islamic/Sufi missionaries or "kibbutz" which is how many of the older settlements of the Somali people formed particularly in the interior.

And it is in fact even appropriate that Merca was named as the place close to the Zawiya because even until the modern period---Qoryooley was the biggest Zawiya in Somalia following the destruction of the Bardera Zawiya ("Jamaaca") which was itself formed to be a replacement of the Zawiya base in Merca.

In fact between the Banadir Coast and the Emirate of Harar, for hundreds of years the link between the two Muslim powers on the Horn was the Shabelle River with two major "Zawiyas" as relay points.

1. Merca
2. Ime

Google my previous discussions about Merca/Ime, the Zawiya/Jamaca/Xer , and the Islamic missionary settlements.

This Merca Hawiye/Zawiya decontextualization is one of the biggest myths percolating not necessarily just because of "ignorance" even but also because of "politics" despite the fact it is not even an obscure and mythological issue but rather actually very well based in written record subject to rigorous engagement and capable of being intellectual illuminated and defined with great objectivity.

[Northkil]

Great read
Btw I heard from 3 different people that Abiy is rer cali dalal

[Gubbet]

Oh really? How about the full big picture?



Wider context and explanation

What I find interesting is the existence, presence, and/or relevance of "Marehan"---a Somali clan that today lives within or around the central or southern borders of Somalia---in the socio-cultural history and heritage of the Afar people. This is not just noteworthy ---this is singularly unique. No other Somali clan that I have seen shares this including the Issa who today neighbor them.

Beyond the modern era, Marehan is not just evident in place naming or anthropological identifications, but is evoked in their oral history and associative tools of imagination for the purpose of remembering the past.

There is an Afar on Twitter I used to casually read with the handle Aseb2Aden, but it seems they might have deleted their account. The individual shared the following poem in the Afar language which contained the reference "Crossed the fog of Marrehan." The Afar contextualized it as Afar having defeated the "Marehan Somali clan" who having been a dominant power were encroached upon successfully by the Afar;

A copy of that old material has been saved in this tweet;



Btw in spite of that contextualization, the reference, and the modern place naming---or rather despite it---other Afar, displaying interesting familiarity with Marehan oddly enough, questioned the connection;



A question which is more explained by lack of knowledge about the subject matter because it is not just the similarity of the "Marehan" name that is the only, or even the main, reason for what is implicated here as the discussion in this topic about "Fa'ayo" shows so brilliantly.

No it is not just or even because of only the "Marehan" connection ---but the Fa'aye connection, as well as the Horarsame connection, as well the Diini connection ---there is an indictment here encompassing the entire Marehan clan historical, sociological, and even genealogical structure and institutions!

As can be displayed by a different representation of the written and cartographic record provided above concerning "Fa'aye."




Btw the Afar didn't "defeat" Marehan per se in my historical theorizing on this.

It is rather after the Ali Da'ud dynasty of the "Emirate" of Harar was born following a "coup" against the Adal Sultanate presided over until then by the dynasty resulting from Emir Nur who succeeded Imam Gragne----the Sultanate of Adal retreated from Harar north to the desert oasis of Aussa which was ethnically "Afar" by then.

The Sultan of Adal, with nominal authority over the land of "Adal" (including Harar although de facto under the control of the Ali Da'ud dynasty that would famously rule it as an emirate city-state until the capture by Menelik), essentially became "hosted" by the Afars of Aussa which replaced for the first time the Somali importance with regards to Adal which until then had sort of been the "hosting" or "intimately" implicated people-group indispensable to the defense and protection of the Sultanate.

As the Aussa Sultans of Adal lost more and more touch with Somalis, becoming more and more dependent on the Afars of Aussa---eventually the Afars would decapitate the Sultanate of Adal by pulling a 2nd coup against the Sultanate ending its long sickly existence since the Harar coup by Ali Da'ud with the declaration of the "Afar" Sultanate of "Aussa" on the gravesite of the now disposed of "Sultanate of Adal."

The , very important key, to understanding the "Marehan" questions presented in this topic, as well as I believe a lot of questions surrounding the modern genesis of the current Somali clan/Xeer systems, including the sudden combustions or formations of the "Sultans/Ugases/Imams/Garads/Malaqs, etc" forming the beginning of the xeer or clan units implicated in the modern Somali tribal segmentation, are questions which I absolutely believe have their answers in this dark, cloudy, hazy historical period between the Ali Da'ud dynasty coming to power in Harar successfully in a coup against the Sultanate of Adal and the Afar Sultanate coming to power in Aussa successfully disposing or ending the Sultanate of Adal.

Reconstructing that time period is absolutely the key to all of this.

In it, I believe, is contained the explanation or link or connection, trajectory, etc of the Marehan historical implication in the land of old Adal and the Marehan modern implication far to the east of old Adal.

Or in other words, synergizing the very obviously prominent question before us;

Subjective Afar oral history remembers defeating "Marehan

Objective history records the Afar defeating the Sultanate of Adal

∆Marehan =?= ∆Sultanate of Adal

???

[Gubbet]

Oh really? How about the full big picture?

@ 0:30---said by modern day Isse Somali nomads "Halkan aan joogno waa 'Dalka Mareexaanka'" ["Right where we are standing is part of 'Marehan Country'"]

[Gubbet]

In middle ages


In recent past


In pre-modern


In early modern


In modern era