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Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Waxa lagu baraarujinayaa dhammaan dadka reer Soomaalilaand ee ku dhaqan dalka Ingiriiska inay ka soo qayb galaan dabaaldegga iyo fantasiyaha ka dhici doona xafiisa wasiirka kowaad ee dalka Ingiriiska hortiisa saacaddu markay tahay 12ka duhurnimo illaa 5ta galabnimo ee 22ka Febaruary 2007. Kulanku waa mid farxadeed oo lagu muujinayo wixii aan qabsanay 16kii sano ee aan xoriyaddeena la soo noqonay. Sidaa darteed waxa haboon in tixgalin la siiyo qodobada soo socda oo ay isla garteen Guddiga Qabanqaada dabaaldegga ee Soomaalilaand, Waxayna yihiin:
In la yimaado saacadda lagu balamay goobta, si dadka madaxda ah oo inoo imanayaa oo ay ka mid yihiin xubno muhiim ah oo Baaralamanka Ingiriiska ka tirsani, ayna ku soo hungoobin dadkii oo aan wada iman.
In goobta lagu soo qurxiyo calanka Soomaalilaand iyo boodhaadh ay ku qoran yihiin ereyo dhinaca wanaagsan wax ka eegaya sida kuwan oo kale:
· Support Democracy, Support Somaliland.
· Britain support Somaliland – where’s the UN and the world?
· British Somalis celebrate democracy in Somaliland.
· BBC: Why do only show violence in Somalia? Show democracy in Somaliland.
· Somaliland: A role model for Africa – so recognise us!
· Somaliland Success- The best kept secret in Africa!’"
· Somaliland: a beacon of democracy in Africa.
· 16 years of peace and stability enjoyed by the people of Somaliland.
Waxa wasiirka kowaad loo dhiibidoonaa qoraal ka hadlaya qadiyadda Soomaalilaand. Dadka wadada maraya ee ajanabiga waxa loo dhiibi doonaa qoraal ka hadlaya taariikhda Soomaalilaand iyo waxa aan isugu soo baxnay.
Dadka hal abuurka leh ee gabya, heesa ,buraanbura ama ciyaar soomaalida yaqaan rag iyo dumarba, waxa laga codsanayaa inay isu soo diyaariyaan dabaaldegga.
Waa in la soo qaataa huga ku haboon cimilada maalintaa jirta. Waana in la soo qaataa cabitaan iyo cunto fudud waayo makhaayado meesha kama dhawa.
Waxa maalintaa inga reeban cid aan canbaarayno iyo ciddaasi ha dhacdo.
Nabadgelyada waxa sugi doona dhinaceena 50 qof oo sita calaamad muuqata, hase ahaatee waa inaan mujinaa anshixii iyo dhaqankii wanaagsanaa ee lagu yiqiin dadka reer Soomaalilaand.
Alla mahadleh, Soomaalilaand iyo ciddii u gargaarta ayaa Guul leh.
In la yimaado saacadda lagu balamay goobta, si dadka madaxda ah oo inoo imanayaa oo ay ka mid yihiin xubno muhiim ah oo Baaralamanka Ingiriiska ka tirsani, ayna ku soo hungoobin dadkii oo aan wada iman.
In goobta lagu soo qurxiyo calanka Soomaalilaand iyo boodhaadh ay ku qoran yihiin ereyo dhinaca wanaagsan wax ka eegaya sida kuwan oo kale:
· Support Democracy, Support Somaliland.
· Britain support Somaliland – where’s the UN and the world?
· British Somalis celebrate democracy in Somaliland.
· BBC: Why do only show violence in Somalia? Show democracy in Somaliland.
· Somaliland: A role model for Africa – so recognise us!
· Somaliland Success- The best kept secret in Africa!’"
· Somaliland: a beacon of democracy in Africa.
· 16 years of peace and stability enjoyed by the people of Somaliland.
Waxa wasiirka kowaad loo dhiibidoonaa qoraal ka hadlaya qadiyadda Soomaalilaand. Dadka wadada maraya ee ajanabiga waxa loo dhiibi doonaa qoraal ka hadlaya taariikhda Soomaalilaand iyo waxa aan isugu soo baxnay.
Dadka hal abuurka leh ee gabya, heesa ,buraanbura ama ciyaar soomaalida yaqaan rag iyo dumarba, waxa laga codsanayaa inay isu soo diyaariyaan dabaaldegga.
Waa in la soo qaataa huga ku haboon cimilada maalintaa jirta. Waana in la soo qaataa cabitaan iyo cunto fudud waayo makhaayado meesha kama dhawa.
Waxa maalintaa inga reeban cid aan canbaarayno iyo ciddaasi ha dhacdo.
Nabadgelyada waxa sugi doona dhinaceena 50 qof oo sita calaamad muuqata, hase ahaatee waa inaan mujinaa anshixii iyo dhaqankii wanaagsanaa ee lagu yiqiin dadka reer Soomaalilaand.
Alla mahadleh, Soomaalilaand iyo ciddii u gargaarta ayaa Guul leh.
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Assalaamu Alaikum,
Before you have this kind of demonstration, wouldn't it be prudent to be contrite with oneself?
For instance it hasn’t been 16 years of peace, but nearly 11 years of peace.
Democracy includes free media, how can you claim to be a democratic country when you don't have independent radio stations? When you don't have the freedom of the press?
Before we parade around 10 Downing Street maybe we should look inward and fix the many problems with our state, the systemic corruption being numero uno.
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq
Before you have this kind of demonstration, wouldn't it be prudent to be contrite with oneself?
For instance it hasn’t been 16 years of peace, but nearly 11 years of peace.
Democracy includes free media, how can you claim to be a democratic country when you don't have independent radio stations? When you don't have the freedom of the press?
Before we parade around 10 Downing Street maybe we should look inward and fix the many problems with our state, the systemic corruption being numero uno.
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Radio stations and few people who get arrested is a minor issues mate! we Somaliland have accomplished what the rest of the world calls (the best kept secret) what Somaliland has done for the last 16 years with out any international help or aid is extraordinary remarkable…
So who ever who is from Somaliland or like Somaliland to get recognized by the world attend this demonstration, people will be coming from all over united kingdom to attend this big day..
Somaliland guuul Somaliland ha noolato….Ka nax oo nafta waa amiiin…
So who ever who is from Somaliland or like Somaliland to get recognized by the world attend this demonstration, people will be coming from all over united kingdom to attend this big day..
Somaliland guuul Somaliland ha noolato….Ka nax oo nafta waa amiiin…
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Assalaamu Alaikum,
Salaan Carabey,
Progress has been made, nobody doubts that. What is in question is, the ideals and the Somaliland we all want, and the one that is currently on the ground are not one and the same. Therefore, do not delude yourself. Write on your placards, Somaliland held free elections, something that doesn't happen in the rest of Africa. Don't say, something that is far from the truth like, Somaliland is a DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY. Let’s be frank!
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq.
Salaan Carabey,
Progress has been made, nobody doubts that. What is in question is, the ideals and the Somaliland we all want, and the one that is currently on the ground are not one and the same. Therefore, do not delude yourself. Write on your placards, Somaliland held free elections, something that doesn't happen in the rest of Africa. Don't say, something that is far from the truth like, Somaliland is a DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY. Let’s be frank!
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq.
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Guul iyo gobonimo.
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P R E S S R E L E A S E
African Union Shuts the Door of Recognition
to “Somalilandâ€
February 19, 2007
For Immediate Release
After sixteen years of repeated failures our breakaway northwestern region which calls itself “Somaliland†made a desperate and, we hope, final move to force the African Union to recognize it.
Last year (June, 20-21) a delegation of the secessionist region arrived at the AU meetings in Banjul uninvited but was, understandably, denied admission. They tried, nonetheless, to lobby for recognition in the hotels where delegates stayed but had no one to listen to them.1
This year (January 31, 2007) they attempted to gate crash the meetings of the AU in Addis Ababa only to be evicted unceremoniously from the meeting halls.2
All of this was uncalled for since there is a way of becoming a member of the AU that is clearly laid out in its Charter. The AU is not sovereign: it does not and cannot, therefore, grant diplomatic recognition. It is a club for 53 African sovereign states, and a new country can be admitted as a member, not only if it is African, but also if recognized as sovereign by half the membership of the Organization.
The self-styled Somaliland is not recognized even by one single member state or any state in the world for that matter. Hence its desperate attempts to gate crash the AU Ministerial meetings with the vain attempt of forcing a collective recognition unheard of in the annals of international organizations.
With security and stability returning to Somalia and with the existence of an internationally recognized national government operating from Mogadishu the prospects of diplomatic recognition for our breakaway region is dimmed beyond redemption, and this certainly explains its apparent acts of desperation.
The flimsy arguments of the secessionists in favor of their ill-advised and divisive project have never made any sense to anyone. The name itself “Somaliland†has no equivalent in the Somali language, and is also ludicrous in the sense that the entire Somali Republic is a Somali land. The name made sense when the region was called “British Somaliland†because it meant then “that part of Somali land which is under British ruleâ€. Worse still, secessionist die-hards call themselves “Somalilanders†which even the colonial administration never used and which, again, has no equivalent in the Somali language; it is in fact so grotesque that it invokes laughter when translated literally into Somali.
Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity (NSPU) take this opportunity, once again, to call upon our fellow northerners, whose obsession is secession, to take cognizance of the fact that they have reached a cul de sac and hence join the process of national reconciliation by entering into dialogue with the internationally recognized national Transitional Federal Government (TFG) in order to ensure genuine home rule for their region in parity with the other regions. Only by working together towards that end can we bring about a shifting of power from the federal government to the regional governments.
We also request the international community to facilitate this dialogue so that the long suffering people of the Somali Republic can attain their goal of genuine national reconciliation.
1 NSPU Publication: “Whither ‘Somaliland’ After the Fiasco in Banjul?â€
http://www.somaliunity.org/press_release_07_31_2006.htm
2 Interview with Somalia’s Permanent Representative to the African Union (AU)
http://audio.hiiraan.com/wareysio/2007/feb/Laqanyo.ram
For further information, please contact:
Gamal Hassan, Communication and Public Relations Unit
info@somaliunity.org
(NSPU)
5470 Merivale Rd. Ottawa, Ontario. K2C 3M1 Canada
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P R E S S R E L E A S E
African Union Shuts the Door of Recognition
to “Somalilandâ€
February 19, 2007
For Immediate Release
After sixteen years of repeated failures our breakaway northwestern region which calls itself “Somaliland†made a desperate and, we hope, final move to force the African Union to recognize it.
Last year (June, 20-21) a delegation of the secessionist region arrived at the AU meetings in Banjul uninvited but was, understandably, denied admission. They tried, nonetheless, to lobby for recognition in the hotels where delegates stayed but had no one to listen to them.1
This year (January 31, 2007) they attempted to gate crash the meetings of the AU in Addis Ababa only to be evicted unceremoniously from the meeting halls.2
All of this was uncalled for since there is a way of becoming a member of the AU that is clearly laid out in its Charter. The AU is not sovereign: it does not and cannot, therefore, grant diplomatic recognition. It is a club for 53 African sovereign states, and a new country can be admitted as a member, not only if it is African, but also if recognized as sovereign by half the membership of the Organization.
The self-styled Somaliland is not recognized even by one single member state or any state in the world for that matter. Hence its desperate attempts to gate crash the AU Ministerial meetings with the vain attempt of forcing a collective recognition unheard of in the annals of international organizations.
With security and stability returning to Somalia and with the existence of an internationally recognized national government operating from Mogadishu the prospects of diplomatic recognition for our breakaway region is dimmed beyond redemption, and this certainly explains its apparent acts of desperation.
The flimsy arguments of the secessionists in favor of their ill-advised and divisive project have never made any sense to anyone. The name itself “Somaliland†has no equivalent in the Somali language, and is also ludicrous in the sense that the entire Somali Republic is a Somali land. The name made sense when the region was called “British Somaliland†because it meant then “that part of Somali land which is under British ruleâ€. Worse still, secessionist die-hards call themselves “Somalilanders†which even the colonial administration never used and which, again, has no equivalent in the Somali language; it is in fact so grotesque that it invokes laughter when translated literally into Somali.
Northern Somalis for Peace and Unity (NSPU) take this opportunity, once again, to call upon our fellow northerners, whose obsession is secession, to take cognizance of the fact that they have reached a cul de sac and hence join the process of national reconciliation by entering into dialogue with the internationally recognized national Transitional Federal Government (TFG) in order to ensure genuine home rule for their region in parity with the other regions. Only by working together towards that end can we bring about a shifting of power from the federal government to the regional governments.
We also request the international community to facilitate this dialogue so that the long suffering people of the Somali Republic can attain their goal of genuine national reconciliation.
1 NSPU Publication: “Whither ‘Somaliland’ After the Fiasco in Banjul?â€
http://www.somaliunity.org/press_release_07_31_2006.htm
2 Interview with Somalia’s Permanent Representative to the African Union (AU)
http://audio.hiiraan.com/wareysio/2007/feb/Laqanyo.ram
For further information, please contact:
Gamal Hassan, Communication and Public Relations Unit
info@somaliunity.org
(NSPU)
5470 Merivale Rd. Ottawa, Ontario. K2C 3M1 Canada
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Bla Bla bla what you crying about?
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
1991- till present recognition seeking.
LONG LIVE IDOORLAND

LONG LIVE IDOORLAND


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[quote="Unclebin-"]1991- till present recognition seeking.
LONG LIVE IDOORLAND
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Somaliland will never get recognized because they are not a seperate group of people with a different nationality, ethnicity or culture.
They have to be kidding me, Isaaqs are the causes of Somalia's problems (although with HG's and other vicious hawiye entities) because their need to seperate.
They have to be kidding me, Isaaqs are the causes of Somalia's problems (although with HG's and other vicious hawiye entities) because their need to seperate.
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Assalaamu Alaikum,
Two people who care about their country discuss the best way foreword, and who crashes the party? A bunch of quisling parasites, who cannot stand the audacity of Somaliland to restore its sovereignty. If I was from Somalia Proper I wouldn't even mention Somaliland while I am under occupation. So lets, not side track this discussion with your insistent howling. Frankly, you do not matter.
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq
Two people who care about their country discuss the best way foreword, and who crashes the party? A bunch of quisling parasites, who cannot stand the audacity of Somaliland to restore its sovereignty. If I was from Somalia Proper I wouldn't even mention Somaliland while I am under occupation. So lets, not side track this discussion with your insistent howling. Frankly, you do not matter.
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
[quote="Salah Al-Din"]Assalaamu Alaikum,
Two people who care about their country discuss the best way foreword, and who crashes the party? A bunch of quisling parasites, who cannot stand the audacity of Somaliland to restore its sovereignty. If I was from Somalia Proper I wouldn't even mention Somaliland while I am under occupation. So lets, not side track this discussion with your insistent howling. Frankly, you do not matter.
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq[/quote]
Walaal, I believe the site is for all Somalis, and since you consider yourself none Somali I think it would be fair that you move your discussion somewhere appropriate because you are doing it in the mist of a general Somali population. Believe me you should take the critizim because it will it will make you stronger. BTW, I used to oppose the idea of Somaliland, however, I think its better for you guys to go your own way cuz I rather see true Somalis who want to be part of Somalia and not bunch of people who feel that they are being forced in being united. Even thoughto be honest its only the Issaqs are the majority that want to saparat and not majority of the Darood. Its going to be tough to get recognized for various reasons including conflicted lands like sool and Sanage that Somaliland claimes to be their but people in those land consier themselves Somalis. But at the end of the day I feel that the Issaq have been brainwashed by bunch of people who are looking out for their personal reasons of power.
Two people who care about their country discuss the best way foreword, and who crashes the party? A bunch of quisling parasites, who cannot stand the audacity of Somaliland to restore its sovereignty. If I was from Somalia Proper I wouldn't even mention Somaliland while I am under occupation. So lets, not side track this discussion with your insistent howling. Frankly, you do not matter.
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq[/quote]
Walaal, I believe the site is for all Somalis, and since you consider yourself none Somali I think it would be fair that you move your discussion somewhere appropriate because you are doing it in the mist of a general Somali population. Believe me you should take the critizim because it will it will make you stronger. BTW, I used to oppose the idea of Somaliland, however, I think its better for you guys to go your own way cuz I rather see true Somalis who want to be part of Somalia and not bunch of people who feel that they are being forced in being united. Even thoughto be honest its only the Issaqs are the majority that want to saparat and not majority of the Darood. Its going to be tough to get recognized for various reasons including conflicted lands like sool and Sanage that Somaliland claimes to be their but people in those land consier themselves Somalis. But at the end of the day I feel that the Issaq have been brainwashed by bunch of people who are looking out for their personal reasons of power.
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
BTW I can't believe that you don't know that Somaliland is actually been controlled by Ethiopia longer than Somalia. Ethiopia controls Somaliland as much as it controls Somalia. You guys are not fighting back because you busy with kissing their ass to get recognized.
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
Assalaamu Alaikum,
Ismahan445
Thank you for your input. You have explained to us you have zero understanding of the situation and all you could muster was clan diatribe. Now can we get back to the discussion?
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq
Ismahan445
Thank you for your input. You have explained to us you have zero understanding of the situation and all you could muster was clan diatribe. Now can we get back to the discussion?
Wassalaam Wabilaahi Towfiiq
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Re: Somaliland Demonstration in London 22' Thursday..
It always comes back to the clan structure bro, that is how our people are distinguished. I don't know why are you running from the truth. I am very much educated about the matter otherwise I wouldn't take part in writing a respond to you. You don't have to take permission to go on with your discussion,however you will come across some individuals that will disagree with you and don't get mad.
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