Population control

[Daleys]

I support population control measures
Look at countries like china and Japan
They have managed to control the birth rates and in return their citizens become more richer
Somalis needs to adopt this policy so as to move ahead
So many children yet high unemployment rates for our youths, lack of quality education, frequent droughts and famine
Where are we heading?
Somalia is 80% arid yet 11 million people call it a home
We need to have a conversation about this issue of high birth rates

[DayrBare]

Brith control baad kasheekaynaysaaye, I am planning to have 30 kids, I ready have the first couple... want to have my own JUFO and secede my clan...kkkkkk

[Shirib]

Daleys,

Somalia has a small population already, the country has a life span of 55 years and a very high child mortality rate. We have a neighbor that's over a 100 million in population and has various times in history claimed Somalia to be it's own and would love to take it.

Population control is a terrible idea for Somalia. We need more people, not less. There's power in numbers.

Comparing it to China and Japan is ludicrous, China and Japan wouldn't be any sort of power if it wasn't for the fact that they had huge populations to begin with.

[Daleys]

Daleys,

Somalia has a small population already, the country has a life span of 55 years and a very high child mortality rate. We have a neighbor that's over a 100 million in population and has various times in history claimed Somalia to be it's own and would love to take it.

Population control is a terrible idea for Somalia. We need more people, not less. There's power in numbers.

Comparing it to China and Japan is ludicrous, China and Japan wouldn't be any sort of power if it wasn't for the fact that they had huge populations to begin with.

Shirib
You don't need a big population to control others
Look at israel which has only 7 million people vs entire surrounding arab nations with 300 million plus
Israel controls them
Also when UK colonised India (270 million people in the beginning of 20 th century
The British colonisers were merely 100K

[Shirib]

Daleys,

Somalia has a small population already, the country has a life span of 55 years and a very high child mortality rate. We have a neighbor that's over a 100 million in population and has various times in history claimed Somalia to be it's own and would love to take it.

Population control is a terrible idea for Somalia. We need more people, not less. There's power in numbers.

Comparing it to China and Japan is ludicrous, China and Japan wouldn't be any sort of power if it wasn't for the fact that they had huge populations to begin with.

Shirib
You don't need a big population to control others
Look at israel which has only 7 million people vs entire surrounding arab nations with 300 million plus
Israel controls them
Also when UK colonised India (270 million people in the beginning of 20 th century
The British colonisers were merely 100K

Somalia isn't in either of those positions of Israel or UK, if we were your argument might have some teeth but we're not and it's foolish to think otherwise. There's power in numbers and curbing the birth rate of an already small population with a short life span and high infant mortality would lead to disaster. The one thing we got going for ourselves now is a young population. You don't want to wipe that out.

The most dominant countries in the world always had one thing going for them a pretty large population. Smaller populations get gobbled up and assimilated and you never hear about them again.

[Grant]

Daleys,

https://www.bloomberg.com/quicktake/jap ... population

"Japan’s population of 127 million is forecast to shrink by about one-third in the next five decades. The proportion of over-64-year-olds — currently about a quarter — is expected to reach 38 percent in that time frame, intensifying the financial and care burden on the working-age population. In a country where over-50s are commonplace on building sites, 86 percent of employers struggled to fill vacancies last year. Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who aims to keep the population above 100 million, has introduced policies to curb excessive working hours and provide more care facilities for children and the aged. But progress has been slow, and moms and pensioners alone cannot plug the labor shortfall. Other remedies include Abe’s “robot revolution,” a plan to quadruple the size of the robotics industry by encouraging automation in everything from rubber factories to care for the elderly. The prime minister, sensitive to the public’s reluctance to open the doors to foreigners, has relaxed restrictions in a piecemeal fashion while avoiding the term “immigration.” His measures since taking office in 2012 have contributed to an increase in the number of overseas workers to more than a million, double that in 2008. A so-called internship program attracted cheap labor from Asia to farms and factories, and foreigners can now become housekeepers or tourist guides in special deregulated zones."

https://ifamericaknew.org/stat/usaid.html

"The U.S. provides Israel $10.5 million* in military aid each day,"

“Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing the amounts provided to any other state. It has been the largest annual recipient of direct U.S. economic and military assistance since 1976 and the largest total recipient since World War ll. Total direct U.S. aid to Israel amounts to well over $140 billion in 2003 dollars. Israel receives over $3 billion in direct foreign assistance each year, which is roughly one-fifth of America's entire foreign aid budget. In per capita terms, the United States gives each Israeli a direct subsidy worth about $500 per year. This largesse is especially striking when one realizes that Israel is now a wealthy industrial state with a per capita income roughly equal to South Korea or Spain.”

- John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt
"The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy"

[Daleys]

Shirib
Your analysis is wrong
If the population grows and drought happens, are we going to ask for handouts again?

[Daleys]

It's good to have a smaller population so as to take care of them in a good environment

[Shirib]

It seems like you're under the impression that we're in a bad environment because the population is too large. The number one reason for death and famine is access to resources not that there's too many people to feed. Access doesn't change with the number of people. You don't see the people in large urban centers dying of starvation, rather it's the ones in the villages who are dependent on harvest and when hat doesn't come they have no access to other resources.

I would love to hear where you think my analysis is incorrect and why you think a smaller population would work.

[Daleys]

It seems like you're under the impression that we're in a bad environment because the population is too large. The number one reason for death and famine is access to resources not that there's too many people to feed. Access doesn't change with the number of people. You don't see the people in large urban centers dying of starvation, rather it's the ones in the villages who are dependent on harvest and when hat doesn't come they have no access to other resources.

I would love to hear where you think my analysis is incorrect and why you think a smaller population would work.

Shirib, show some intelligence
A big population isn't good for Somalia due to the recurring droughts after every 3 years
Or do you want to see starving somalis in the media everytime?

[Daleys]

Unlike Ethiopia which is very fertile due to the Highlands
Do you know that the source of river juba and shabelle are in the Ethiopian highlands

[Shirib]

Daleys,

I'm really beginning to think you're just clueless. Do you really think the reason Somalia has a starving population is because we are too many? Ethiopia gets the same droughts and they are 10 times our size.

It's an issue with accessibility and not over population. You don't see people dying of starvation in Xamar, Hargeisa, Boosaaso, etc. where there is large population centers, The deaths happen in baadiyo where accessbility is limited. That's not due to population but accessibility. Use some intelligence abaayo.

A smaller population will ensure we get gobbled up by Ethiopia. It's really the worst idea ever.

[Daleys]

Daleys,

I'm really beginning to think you're just clueless. Do you really think the reason Somalia has a starving population is because we are too many? Ethiopia gets the same droughts and they are 10 times our size.

It's an issue with accessibility and not over population. You don't see people dying of starvation in Xamar, Hargeisa, Boosaaso, etc. where there is large population centers, The deaths happen in baadiyo where accessbility is limited. That's not due to population but accessibility. Use some intelligence abaayo.

A smaller population will ensure we get gobbled up by Ethiopia. It's really the worst idea ever.
Shirib
Somalia defeated Ethiopia in 1977 war when they were 4 million before getting help from cuba $russia

[Daleys]

Somalia defeated Ethiopia in 1977 when they were 4 million before getting help from cuba $ russia

[Daleys]

Shirib
Big population isn't good for environment also
Deforestation, soil erosion, desertification etc
Think outside the box