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Control of Airports/Ports and National Assets?

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I have been reading some people here claiming that Banaadir or Mogadishu control their own airport and port so why should other cities not be allowed? First of all the Banaadir region receives 15% of Income from each Airport and Port and the rest goes to the Federal Government. Second neither the Governor or Mayor have the rights to name the deputies and they are named by their respective ministries. Third Airports and Ports are national assets and every Somali Clan is represented in positions in both the Airport and Port of Xamar.
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the federal government = mogadishu

anything the federal government gets is spent on mogadishu only
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Osob101 wrote:I have been reading some people here claiming that Banaadir or Mogadishu control their own airport and port so why should other cities not be allowed? First of all the Banaadir region receives 15% of Income from each Airport and Port and the rest goes to the Federal Government. Second neither the Governor or Mayor have the rights to name the deputies and they are named by their respective ministries. Third Airports and Ports are national assets and every Somali Clan is represented in positions in both the Airport and Port of Xamar.
1st of all xamar is still a clan city even though diversity exists.
The only thing somali clans share with the regime is the members of parliament and cabinet ministers.apart from that most of the civil service belong to one qabil and mostly Abgaal as there is no procedure in place in recruiting staff on 4.5 basis.
Then you have the local authority which suprisingly comes from one pool, you also have the govt militia too who are mostky picked from same clan.

Regarding revenue generation you have the ports and IC funds for the entire Somalia.

It seems this is not enough for reer mogadishu and hence are demanding more from other regions.

Isnt this not broad day light robbery a kind of isbaaro, when the regime demands entire revenues from ports around Somalia?
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I at one point actually worked at the Airport during 2011 to 2012 and there many non Hawyie or Abgaal working there. Heck when I was there last time the head of the Police protocol at the airport was Darood. There is no such thing called Government Militia and prior to just a few weeks ago all the heads of the Military were Darood and all based in the city. Airports, Ports, Oil/Minerals do not belong to a city, state, qabil or Federal state.

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So far every penny the Government spent on the city is for Federal Government institutions and buildings which belong to the nation, everything else happening in the city came from charities or the people of the city.
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Osob101 wrote:The Patriot

I at one point actually worked at the Airport during 2011 to 2012 and there many non Hawyie or Abgaal working there. Heck when I was there last time the head of the Police protocol at the airport was Darood. There is no such thing called Government Militia and prior to just a few weeks ago all the heads of the Military were Darood and all based in the city. Airports, Ports, Oil/Minerals do not belong to a city, state, qabil or Federal state.
You talk of few heads,what about the other employees? or in regards to military the low ranking soilders who are the majority ?mostly unukah leh

I have seen Ceyr complaining about it what do you expect others? :mindblown:
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If for a moment just put away your paranoia of this mythical HAG you speak off than maybe you would see a light. There are more Digil Iyo Mirifle+ Jareer working in the port than any other Clan walaahi. I lived in Xamar at its worst time when we use to be shelled by Al Shabab every day and almost every Clan was represented where I was working. Even now some of the closest advisers to the President who are with him tonight in Abu Dhabi are Darood and others but you just have this phobia :lol:
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Osob101 wrote:If for a moment just put away your paranoia of this mythical HAG you speak off than maybe you would see a light. There are more Digil Iyo Mirifle+ Jareer working in the port than any other Clan walaahi. I lived in Xamar at its worst time when we use to be shelled by Al Shabab every day and almost every Clan was represented where I was working. Even now some of the closest advisers to the President who are with him tonight in Abu Dhabi are Darood and others but you just have this phobia :lol:
If you are saying the truth why are all local councils headed by one community? it dosnt reflect what you are saying.

The figures you put are negligible in the stats world :ufdup: .
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Osob101 wrote:If for a moment just put away your paranoia of this mythical HAG you speak off than maybe you would see a light. There are more Digil Iyo Mirifle+ Jareer working in the port than any other Clan walaahi. I lived in Xamar at its worst time when we use to be shelled by Al Shabab every day and almost every Clan was represented where I was working. Even now some of the closest advisers to the President who are with him tonight in Abu Dhabi are Darood and others but you just have this phobia :lol:
d&m and jareer are labourers.
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Local Council is a national asset?

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Every Somali Clan is represented in being a Laborer so don't flatter ur self. I have more respect for a man cleaning a toilet to earn an honest wage than a Moryaan with Isbaaro.
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Osob101 wrote:Local Council is a national asset?
Where does the funds come from used to pay their salaries?
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Laa xawla walaa quwata ilaa bilaah. The Muqdisho local government is predominantly Hawiye because they pretty much make up the whole population. When Xamar is more diversified, then the matter of sharing local governance can be put to debate. If the capital city was in Boosaaso, it wouldn't make sense for a non local clan to start pointing fingers and ask why all the district commissioners are Darood.
The_Patriot wrote: Where does the funds come from used to pay their salaries?
From local coffers of course. Sxb you do understand that the Howlwadaag district for example would earn lots of tax revenue seeing as Suuqa Bakaaraha is located there.
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Osob101 wrote:Local Council is a national asset?

Nomand

Every Somali Clan is represented in being a Laborer so don't flatter ur self. I have more respect for a man cleaning a toilet to earn an honest wage than a Moryaan with Isbaaro.
every qabil has laborers all over somalia but you said you saw d&m and jareer working in mogadishu port. i am saying that they are simple laborers who have nothing to do with how the port is run or who gets the money.
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Laa xawla walaa quwata ilaa bilaah. The Muqdisho local government is predominantly Hawiye because they pretty much make up the whole population. When Xamar is more diversified, then the matter of sharing local governance can be put to debate. If the capital city was in Boosaaso, it wouldn't make sense for a non local clan to start pointing fingers and ask why all the district commissioners are Darood.
There is a large D&M, Darood , Bantu population etc in Xamar and yet you want to claim they dont exist demographic wise?
From local coffers of course. Sxb you do understand that the Howlwadaag district for example would earn lots of tax revenue seeing as Suuqa Bakaaraha is located there.
Still there is no adequate tax collected and one way or another the government chips in either through using IC funds or port revenues.
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Garguurte needs to speed up the arms delivery and raise funds to build a strong national army to mop up the Nabadiids.
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The_Patriot wrote:There is a large D&M, Darood , Bantu population etc in Xamar and yet you want to claim they dont exist demographic wise?
There is a large D&M and Bantu population etc in Bosaso. I don't see them given anything
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