Why Somaliland will never be internationally recognised.

[jamal859]

1.If the international community recognise somaliland today,they will have to deal with other somali regions who may also seek full secession and recognition.To avoid dealing with another Yugoslavia situation,its better in the eyes of the international community to avoid recognition.

2.Not everyone backs secession in the north,only one tribe fully backs independence from Somalia,this complicates matters cause only 1/3 of the land mass of the original british colony will secede.

3.They don't know shit about democracy so referendum is out of the question.

[X.Playa]

Number one is baseless predictions, the rest of Somalia can't be compared to Somaliland, Somaliland was a colonial entity no different then Djibouti or Nigeria. The rest of the Somali republic are mere provinces, Somaliland was an independent territory that joined Somalia to form The Somali Republic.

Number tow that one clan outnumber all the rest in the ratio of 5 to 1. So majority rules.

Number three democracy isn't a condition for nationhood nor recognition.

[CigaalSHiiDaaDCFC]

1: Other regions arnt claiming to be countries they are maamul goboleed

2: you dnt need everybody you just need the majority of slanders

3: there were refrendum wich 97% of slander's voted yes for gooni isku taag and if they do it again it will be the same percentage or more.

Idal sha3bo yowman arada ictiraaf falaabuda international community an yastajiiba

[DR-YALAXOOW]

Number one is baseless predictions, the rest of Somalia can't be compared to Somaliland, Somaliland was a colonial entity no different then Djibouti or Nigeria. The rest of the Somali republic are mere provinces, Somaliland was an independent territory that joined Somalia to form The Somali Republic.

Number tow that one clan outnumber all the rest in the ratio of 5 to 1. So majority rules.

Number three democracy isn't a condition for nationhood nor recognition.

actually there your wrong... Somaliland were never independent those 4 days before south and north become united,, 26 june 1960 it was the day (british-somaliland) ended existing and Somali republic was born.. the newly born republic had a blue flag which was entrim flag of south from 1954.. actually the name of the newly born republic in 26 june 1960 was not a (somaliland) but was Somali republic. and whit in 4 days somali republic become compelete when south become indepdent...

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Number one is baseless predictions, the rest of Somalia can't be compared to Somaliland, Somaliland was a colonial entity no different then Djibouti or Nigeria. The rest of the Somali republic are mere provinces, Somaliland was an independent territory that joined Somalia to form The Somali Republic.

Number tow that one clan outnumber all the rest in the ratio of 5 to 1. So majority rules.

Number three democracy isn't a condition for nationhood nor recognition.

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Maybe 2 to 1 or 2,5 to 1, but never 5.

[X.Playa]

Jibriil abokor alone outnumber your entire gudabuuro clan, the rest of sacad muuse maybe 10 to 1.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Lol@2:1. After Hawiye, Isaaq is the most laandheer clan. I would say over 90% of the North is Isaaq. Don't kid yourselves, any future referendum would have only one outcome.

Somaliland is nothing like Puntland, jubbaland, liilowland, ximan-iyo-xeebland , disneyland etc. and every other tribal maamul. It is a separate country, whether you like it or not.

[X.Playa]

Number one is baseless predictions, the rest of Somalia can't be compared to Somaliland, Somaliland was a colonial entity no different then Djibouti or Nigeria. The rest of the Somali republic are mere provinces, Somaliland was an independent territory that joined Somalia to form The Somali Republic.

Number tow that one clan outnumber all the rest in the ratio of 5 to 1. So majority rules.

Number three democracy isn't a condition for nationhood nor recognition.

actually there your wrong... Somaliland were never independent those 4 days before south and north become united,, 26 june 1960 it was the day (british-somaliland) ended existing and Somali republic was born.. the newly born republic had a blue flag which was entrim flag of south from 1954.. actually the name of the newly born republic in 26 june 1960 was not a (somaliland) but was Somali republic. and whit in 4 days somali republic become compelete when south become indepdent...

Independent or no independent the argument is simply this were they a colonial entity like Djibouti and Nigeria before independence, which is yes, did they join the south and formed a united territories, which is yes again, can they legally restore their independence, which yes again.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Jibriil abokor alone outnumber your entire gudabuuro clan, the rest of sacad muuse maybe 10 to 1.

Old man if you propose an argument to the OP at least have a source to back up your claim.
You said they outnumber the other clans in Somaliland 5 to 1. A quick population census of 2014 nullifies that claim.

As for Sacad Muuse outnumbering my clan, they make the bulk of Habar Awal. 90% of HA are located in the borders and jurisdiction of Somaliland, while 50% or lower of the Gadabuursi are located in Somaliland.

Nice try though. Still 5 to 1 is too far-fetched. Are you that insecure that you would make up lies?

[X.Playa]

Hawiye are not a clan but a Confederacy, the Xwaadle, Sheekhaal, Ajuuraan, Dagoodi and Gaal Jecel are not Hawiye but distant relatives, the abgaal and hg constitute 80% of Hawiye proper the rest are minor sub clans such as the Duduble, Gugundhabe, Ujeejeen, Xaskul and Murusade all combined don't even equal in number our hj. The isaaq outnumber the Hawiye proper 3 to 1.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

XPLAYER

there are plenty of nations which took indepence from colonial powers who even had their own flags( which british somaliland did not had) which united later. a..let's take som tusaaale... Tanganika and Zanzibar united and become Tanzania.. believe me if zanzibar declares indepdence no one will ever recognice it.. South yemen and North yemen.. SOUTH CAMEROON AND NORTH CAMEROON . former Italian-somaliland and former British-somaliland united 1960. and become Somali repubic or Somalia. and 1961 we had one man one vote. union constitution and 97 % of somalis voted yes.. and one article of that constitution was written like this

wadanka soomaalida waligiis wuxuu ahaanaya mid midow ah haddii 8da gobol ee wadanka gobol ka mid ah doonayo inuu ka baxo midowga jamhuuriyada soomalida waa in dhamaaan 8 da gobol la weydiiyaa cod. hadii aqlabaniyada yiraahdaa haa gobolkaa waa loo ogolaanayaa inuu goosto

.. marka saaxiib albaabka goosashada gobolada waqooyi ama former british-somaliland waa very limited...

[X.Playa]

Jibriil abokor alone outnumber your entire gudabuuro clan, the rest of sacad muuse maybe 10 to 1.

Old man if you propose an argument to the OP at least have a source to back up your claim.
You said they outnumber the other clans in Somaliland 5 to 1. A quick population census of 2014 nullifies that claim.

As for Sacad Muuse outnumbering my clan, they make the bulk of Habar Awal. 90% of HA are located in the borders and jurisdiction of Somaliland, while 50% or lower of the Gadabuursi are located in Somaliland.

Nice try though. Still 5 to 1 is too far-fetched. Are you that insecure that you would make up lies?

Even in Djibouti the Jibriil Abokor outnumbers you.

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Even in Djibouti the Jibriil Abokor outnumbers you.

Your claims, not facts, but it's a fact that Gadabuursi is bigger than Isaaq in Ethiopia. My Woredas are packed

[X.Playa]

XPLAYER

there are plenty of nations which took indepence from colonial powers who even had their own flags( which british somaliland did not had) which united later. a..let's take som tusaaale... Tanganika and Zanzibar united and become Tanzania.. believe me if zanzibar declares indepdence no one will ever recognice it.. South yemen and North yemen.. SOUTH CAMEROON AND NORTH CAMEROON . former Italian-somaliland and former British-somaliland united 1960. and become Somali repubic or Somalia. and 1961 we had one man one vote. union constitution and 97 % of somalis voted yes.. and one article of that constitution was written like this

wadanka soomaalida waligiis wuxuu ahaanaya mid midow ah haddii 8da gobol ee wadanka gobol ka mid ah doonayo inuu ka baxo midowga jamhuuriyada soomalida waa in dhamaaan 8 da gobol la weydiiyaa cod. hadii aqlabaniyada yiraahdaa haa gobolkaa waa loo ogolaanayaa inuu goosto

.. marka saaxiib albaabka goosashada gobolada waqooyi ama former british-somaliland waa very limited...

Aduunka wax Xamar Ku malmaluuqeen laba Hawiye ah lagama dhagaysto, aftida waxay laga qaadaa the territory in question like Scotland in UK, Québec in Canada and logically Somaliland, not some Hawiye donkey in banaadir.

[DR-YALAXOOW]

qaldaan as always qaldaan. this section is not a clantalk section.. haddii aad qabiiil cuqdad ku heeyso meelo looga hadlaa jirto.. Qaldaanoos ..
look somali federal goverment is even working in gobolka togdheer north somalia giving people passport servicess..


Khaatumo will get recognition before you