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The prophet Ngundeng Bong,Strange things in South Sudan

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1-Dr. Riek hails from the Dok Nuer community who inhabit Leer County in Unity State.
2-Dr. Riek's grandfather, Teny-Dhurghon, was reportedly possessed by the spirit that enabled him to "speak the language of prophecy"
Nyadak the mother of Riek had given birth at age 73?
3-left-handed
4-Dr. Riek Machar Teny, the 26th child of the 31 children of a sub-chief of the village of Leer
5-Third wife of his father's five wives, the boy was given the name Riek, which can either mean "shrine" or "trouble".

Ngundeng Bong (c. 1830–1890) was a prophet of the Nuer people of South Sudan

Ngundeng’s prophecies are believed to have suggested the following: That Sudan would be split by war. A heavily bearded man would relinquish power and a left-handed Nuer would raise a new flag of an independent country. According to this interpretation the heavily bearded man is Salva Kiir and the left-handed man is Riek Machar. But were these prophecies made at the time, or are they modern inventions?

https://martinplaut.com/2014/03/06/sout ... phets-rod/
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The name sounds more like a third-rate NBA prospect than a prophet.
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barbarossa wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:40 am The name sounds more like a third-rate NBA prospect than a prophet.
Do you believe Awliya? Dr. Riek think he is Awlya Allah
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^ Bro, you are talking to a man himself considered by many Awilya Allah of exceptional prophetic powers, a modern Nostradamus of sort.
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barbarossa wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:42 pm ^ Bro, you are talking to a man himself considered by many Awilya Allah of exceptional prophetic powers, a modern Nostradamus of sort.
modern Nostradamus? You must have garabdaar. pm me your mobile bro. I need to invite you.....most likely in Ceerigaabo aka the mother of all skinny ancestral hometown.
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LeJusticier wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:10 pm Do you believe Awliya? Dr. Riek think he is Awlya Allah
Which dariiqa do you follow?
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paperino wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:55 pm
LeJusticier wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:10 pm Do you believe Awliya? Dr. Riek think he is Awlya Allah
Which dariiqa do you follow?
Ceerigaabo waxay lahayd laba malcaamddood oo waaweyn. Malcaamadda aan quraanka ka baran jiray waxay ahayd Saalixiyah, Takalane Qaaddiriyah.
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LeJusticier wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:45 am Ceerigaabo waxay lahayd laba malcaamddood oo waaweyn. Malcaamadda aan quraanka ka baran jiray waxay ahayd Saalixiyah, Takalane Qaaddiriyah.
I know Qaaddiriyah has its origin in Cabdulqaadir Jiilaani; what about Saalixiyah?
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paperino wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:11 pm
LeJusticier wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:45 am Ceerigaabo waxay lahayd laba malcaamddood oo waaweyn. Malcaamadda aan quraanka ka baran jiray waxay ahayd Saalixiyah, Takalane Qaaddiriyah.
I know Qaaddiriyah has its origin in Cabdulqaadir Jiilaani; what about Saalixiyah?
Salihiyya (Somali: Saalixiya; Urwayniya, Arabic: الصالحية‎) is a tariqa (order) of Sufi Islam prevalent in Somalia and the adjacent Ethiopian region of Ogaden. It was founded in the Sudan by Sayyid Muhammad Salih (1854-1919). The order is characterized by a puritanism typical of other revivalist movements.


History
The order ultimately traces its origins back to the Sufi scholar of Moroccan origin Ahmad ibn Idris al-Fasi (1760-1837). His followers and students spread al-Fasi's teachings across the globe. Among his students was Ibrahim ibn Salih ibn ‘Abd al-Rahman al-Duwayhi (1813-1874), known as al-Rashid. In his native Sudan, al-Rashid popularized the teachings of al-Fasi, eventually establishing his own tariqa, the Rashidiyya. Having been at al-Fasi's side when he died, al-Rashid was recognized as the successor to his teacher, and the Rashidiyya found many followers in Mecca. His nephew, Sayyid Muhammad Salih, was one of them; he spread the Rashidiyya to the Sudan and Somalia, establishing his own eponymous branch, the Salihiyya. (However, the order continues to be known as the Rashidiyya in the Sudan.[1]) A former slave, Muhammad Guled (d. 1918), was instrumental in popularizing the Salihiyya in the Jowhar region of Somalia, while Isma'il ibn Ishaq al-Urwayni spread it in the Middle Juba region. [2] Related orders also spread to Malaysia.

The Salihiyya order, like the closely related Idrisiyya, Rashidiyya, and Sanusiyya orders, is a revivalist reform movement and historically was staunchly opposed to the Qadiriyya order (which is the largest and longest-established in Somalia), taking issue with the Qadiri doctrine of tawassul (intermediation). While the Qadiriyya upheld the traditional Sufi belief in the power of intercession held by dead saints, the Salihiyya maintained that only living saints held this power.[3] The Salihiyya was also militantly anti-colonial.[4] Mohammed Abdullah Hassan, a Salihiyya shaykh and poet, spread the Salihiyya (particularly in Ogaden) and led an armed anticolonial resistance movement in the Horn of Africa under the auspices of the order.[5]

Present
The Salihiyya remains one of the largest Sufi orders in Somalia, after the Qadiriyya and Ahmadiyya. The opposition between the Salihiyya and the Qadiriyya has also endured into the postcolonial period.
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LJ, I've heard of Somalis in the UK who go to Morocco for siyaaro. I wonder if their siyaaro involves al-Fasi, the founder of Saalixiyah.
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paperino wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:00 pm LJ, I've heard of Somalis in the UK who go to Morocco for siyaaro. I wonder if their siyaaro involves al-Fasi, the founder of Saalixiyah.
Its possible eventhou Awliya era is over. I have seen few Farah's went Morocco to get married second wife.
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