BREAKING NEWS: P Kagwanja: "Garissa network" manipulated Kenya J/land policy | turned Marehan in 10/14 dist against us

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BREAKING NEWS: P Kagwanja: "Garissa network" manipulated Kenya J/land policy | turned Marehan in 10/14 dist against us

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Peter Kagwanja, husband of Uhuru Defense Minister Monica Juma, and chief Somalia policy guy for Uhuru advices current Ruto government to learn from their mistakes in Jubbaland and REFORM the Jubbaland policy

But Nairobi must also take a hard re-look at its Jubaland buffer zone strategy to ensure that it is not unduly entangled in Somalia’s internal clan supremacy wars. 

Truth be told, in the past, Nairobi’s Jubaland strategy has been driven by the narrow interests of some sub-clans in Garissa County and their cross-border networks. 

As a result, the strategy has always run into the headwinds of fierce sub-nationalism of the Marehan and allied sub-clans. This has transformed the Marehan, one of the largest constituent sub-clans of the Darod that occupies roughly 10 out of 14 districts in Jubaland along with nearly 600 kilometres of the 681 kilometres of Kenya–Somalia land boundary, into a community of grievance against Kenya in Somalia, accusing Nairobi of imprudently championing the interests of rival sub-clans in Jubaland. This has been a major trigger of diplomatic tiffs between Nairobi and Mogadishu, which jihadists have exploited.

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fierce sub-nationalism of the Marehan and allied sub-clans
I would also add this statement tells me Peter Kagwanja has sufficiently and intimately studied Somalia and Jubbaland dynamics and especially Marehan as a national political actor.

MOD, CBB, Ahlu Sunnah, even "JVA" shows Marehan is a "coalition" builder.

Resisting KDF/Madoobe vichy Jubbaland plant wasn't just Garbahaarey. It was CBB from Laas Caanood & Laas Qoray to inside Kenya in the Mandera Triangle to Wajeer to Beerxaani and Buulogaduud couple kms from Kismaayo.

It was Professor Abdiwahab Sheikh, Lawyer Ahmednassir, it was MP Dahir Amin Jeesoow, it was all of CBB in policy, media, and society.

We are inclusive and we are loyal; we attract support and loyalty in return.

This is one of the greatest social strengths of Marehan & source of unimaginable power which came in handy resisting KDF disproportional military and political power manipulated by Madoobe to force himself on Marehan.

This social-politico strength helped defeat even that manipulated use of outside power.
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:56 pm
fierce sub-nationalism of the Marehan and allied sub-clans
I would also add this statement tells me Peter Kagwanja has sufficiently and intimately studied Somalia and Jubbaland dynamics and especially Marehan as a national political actor.

MOD, CBB, even "JVA" shows Marehan is a "coalition" builder.

Resisting KDF/Madoobe vichy Jubbaland plant wasn't just Garbahaarey. It was CBB from Laas Caanood & Laas Qoray to inside Kenya in the Mandera Triangle to Wajeer to Beerxaani and Buulogaduud couple kms from Kismaayo.

It was Professor Abdiwahab Sheikh, Lawyer Ahmednassir, it was MP Dahir Amin Jeesoow, it was all of CBB in policy, media, and society.

We are inclusive and we are loyal; we attract support and loyalty in return.

This is one of the greatest social strengths of Marehan & source of unimaginable power which came in handy resisting KDF disproportional military and political power manipulated by Madoobe to force himself on Marehan.

This social-politico strength helped defeat even that manipulated use of outside power.

It is because you British you need your ego assuaged. I don’t like you because I know what all of you are. Nor will I ever like you tbf. Is that understood? I stand alone. To the West Coast and the Bounty Hunter I am MX. I’m brand it too. It’s East Coast. You’re biters

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Let us say all 6 Districts in Gedo belong to Marehan. Where are the other 4 Districts that belong to Marehan in Jubbaland and what are their names?
He wrote 600 out 681kms of borderline, belongs to Marehan?
Is the line between Gariley and Mandera a 600kms? Or is the line between Diif and Badhaadhe, 80kms?
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balwarama wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:27 am Let us say all 6 Districts in Gedo belong to Marehan. Where are the other 4 Districts that belong to Marehan in Jubbaland and what are their names?
He wrote 600 out 681kms of borderline, belongs to Marehan?
Is the line between Gariley and Mandera a 600kms? Or is the line between Diif and Badhaadhe, 80kms?
Balwarama;

I have relayed this to you before:
Marehan isn't just Gedo,

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Even in the past years with Ahmed Madoobe "Jubbaland" in Kismaayo, Marehan and Ogaden as residential neighbors were reconciled in these districts of Lower and Middle Jubba as well as Marehan and other clans like Gaaljecel;

  1. Saakoow District of Middle Jubba @ Daressalam village and grazing all the way to Bu'aale.
  2. Afmadoow District of Lower Jubba @ Hagar township
  3. Afmadoow District of Lower Jubba @ Dhuya Garoon village
  4. Afmadoow District of Lower Jubba @ Diif border crossing point (in fact labeled a "Marehan majority" area by USAID)
  5. Kismaayo District of Lower Jubba @ Berhani village

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There are other resourced understandings of this geography;

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An eye witness testimony corroborating the above as too "conservative" towards Marehan is Nomand who has described his travels to Kismaayo on multiple occasions. He has noted only the area between "Diif-Tabda" is the border without Marehan presence. Everything north of Diif to BP1 where the border starts (not Mandera-Beled Hawa) is dominated by Marehan and everything south of Tabda has a dominant Marehan presence.
Nomand wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:57 am the map voltage provided is way to generous to ogaden and actually does not represent whats on the ground.

marehan live in at least 35 percent of afmadow district. here is the our line between MX and ogadeen

in the south our border with ogadeen is miido, qoqaani and tabta in the north it is xagar and diif.

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Tabda-Diif, which Nomand has peviously clarified as the only place on the border without Marehan presence is about 76 KM, confirming P Kagwanja's statement Marehan is present in roughly 600 KM of the 680 KM Kenya-Somalia border;

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Regarding the districts, Gedo is not 6 districts but 7;

1. Beled-Hawa
2. Burdubo
3. Bardere
4. Garbaharey
5. Luq
6. El Wak
7. Dolow

Middle Jubba is 3;

8. Sakow
9. Buale
10. Jilib

Lower Jubba is 4;

11. Jamame
12. Kismayo
13. Afmadow
14. Badhadhe


According to the maps, eye witness accounts, news reports, and reconciliation initiatives shown above and present everywhere, Marehan have "deegaan" or settlement in the 7 Gedo , 8 Sakow, 9. Afmadow, and 10. Kismayo district.

That is 10 out of 14 districts as identified by P Kagwanja.

Finally,

You are arguing against "exclusivity" where none has been argued in effect engineering an argumentation by contention.

For example, the border Marehan shares with Kenya at El-Wak district just as well implicates Garre use and the border Marehan shares with Kenya at Bardere district just as well implicates Aulihan use.

Identifying the Marehan implication in a broader point is not a negation of either Garre or Aulihan presence as a factual matter.
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balwarama wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:51 am Ruux waalan baad tahay
Ad hominem waa ceeb falkeeduna ma aan mutaysan mana ahan wax kugu haboon walaal.

Beesha Absame cuqdad xun baa gashay sida ii muuqato kolkaay yiraahdaane Ahmed Madoobe oo 11 sano wax tar la'aan meel la baraaqsan Mareexaanoow u sujuuda ama waad i necebtihiin cidaan ka dhashay sideey wax u arkaan si ka duwan baa iisoo baxdoo reerkaan aan walaalaha nahay waxaan ka gartaa inaay dhibsanayaan Mareexaan xuquuqda uu xataa ku leeyahay Jubbaland kalsooni la'aan awgeed la xiriirta xuquuqdaas siduu Mareexaan ka yeelay amaba u isticmaali doono.

Walaale, Marehan is not the President of Somali Region in Ethiopia because Marehan is not with the equity of Ogaden in Somali Region.

Marehan is not the Defense Minister of Kenya because Marehan is not with the equity of Ogaden in Kenya.

Ahmed Madoobe's 11 years as Jubbaland President is 11 years of applying to the test any doubt, questions, or dissent anyone can have about the equity required to give real power to the title of "Jubbaland President" rather than the title being beseeched to give one power.

Marehan is the Jubbaland President.

No other equity in Jubbaland even challenges it.

This is natural and only requires acceptance in the interest of order and justice.
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balwarama wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:27 am Let us say all 6 Districts in Gedo belong to Marehan. Where are the other 4 Districts that belong to Marehan in Jubbaland and what are their names?
He wrote 600 out 681kms of borderline, belongs to Marehan?
Is the line between Gariley and Mandera a 600kms? Or is the line between Diif and Badhaadhe, 80kms?
There is 7 districts in gedo alone. Btw why don't you tell us how many districts ogadeen are majority in jubbaland?
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Rethink it all you want. I hate you and your country. Try to bury the truth for the Anglo halfblood all you want. He never deserved to be president. Oops did I leak a state secret?



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Kenya never hid the fact they want to use Kenyan ‘Somalis’ as a trojan to gain influence in Somalia, in particular Jubbaland. They were rebuffed strongly by MX in B Xaawo, along with noble clans In Mandeera such as Murule, Garre, Degoodie, etc.

On the Ras Kambooni side, Northern NFD became a circus, extremely unsafe since Madoobe is a product of this Kenyan Project himself
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Murax wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:13 am Kenya never hid the fact they want to use Kenyan ‘Somalis’ as a trojan to gain influence in Somalia, in particular Jubbaland. They were rebuffed strongly by MX in B Xaawo, along with noble clans In Mandeera such as Murule, Garre, Degoodie, etc.

On the Ras Kambooni side, Northern NFD became a circus, extremely unsafe since Madoobe is a product of this Kenyan Project himself
I understand exactly what is going on Murax. I don't know if you are. :lol:

This is a case of "labadii awalbaa xaaraan kuugu heshiisay baa ilaahay isku diray" and so one is "getting back" at the other by publicly pointing fingers at him incriminating both of them (but especially the other who is the target of exposure).

All I say is thank you for blurting out the truth anyways. 8-)

Now "Team Uhuru" vs. "Adan Barre Ducaale" keep fighting...
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And this is why I have some hardcore silent readers. The second I wrote the above post I immediately started following the browsing count and it jumped by hundreds. It is now around 50, but I looked because I expected the spike.

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P.S. This is a real douchey way of saying "Team Uhuru" vs. "Adan Barre Ducaale" was confirmed to be a very valuable share.
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Whoever captures Buale first will gain the upper hand in Jubaland.Ahmad Madobe can't stay put in Kismayo and claim the rest of Jubaland on paper.

I previously mentioned the inevitable coming war between Ogs and Marehan. It will be brutal and decisive at the same time.Marehan will gain all (Kismayo) or lose all (Bardheere).
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BestP wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:41 am Gubbet

Whoever captures Buale first will gain the upper hand in Jubaland.Ahmad Madobe can't stay put in Kismayo and claim the rest of Jubaland on paper.

I previously mentioned the inevitable coming war between Ogs and Marehan. It will be brutal and decisive at the same time.Marehan will gain all (Kismayo) or lose all (Bardheere).
This is a lie. It is called "gaslighting."

Get to "Bu'aale" first is one of those false barometers people indenial about a problem choose as a comfortable enabler for not having to face the truth until you have to exhaust all the excuses one by one.

In other words, the past 11 years failure of Ahmed Madoobe to impart any substantive, credible, real power, authority, and legitimacy to the title of "Jubbaland president" is the diagnosis of a "problem."

Say someone is an alcoholic and this represents everything required to diagnose "addiction."

"Get to Bu'aale" is something the addict in denial would use as an enabler for avoiding recognition of their addiction as the "problem." So it would be like the addict saying "liquor is the problem, I should drink beer" or "instead of afternoon, I should drink only in the evening."

Only then when they try just beer and the problem inevitably doesn't seem to have been affected at all and subsequently start drinking only in the evenings and the result is similarly undented---is the adict then unable to continue to use that as an "enabler" for hiding from the real problem, i e. they have an addiction.

"Bu'aale" is a lie. Nobody agreed to that place as a representation of anything

The entire "Jubbaland" concept as it [does not even] exist represented by Madoobe is a lie.

19 MPs seats for Marehan and 21 MPs seats for "Absame" is a lie.

This whole thing is a lie that exists in reality even less, if possible, than Ahmed Madoobe's legitimacy as the leader of the people of Gedo and Jubbaland.

You, your very self, are championing a lie, walaal.

The problem is your shame precluding ownership of the lie in which you alienly still impose recognizance tells me you are not indenial and have passed that stage---rather you are without will, and or desire, to have the problem conclusively remediated.

That tells me there is a character deficiency which is not an indictment I would lightly level against anyone.

I am not going to extend a moral or ethical advice, because it is already left unsaid.
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