I like life 2b BALANCED u know! no Extremists and No Ethiest

[Homer Simpso]

alotta people ask themselves why is it I am always agaisnt the Islamic courts.. some attributed it to tribal reason and some a weak faith but its none of them.. I like things to be balance whether its our lives and the way we live... I am a muslim and love my religion, I do practice it as much as possible, there is something else I love as well and that is liberty, individual liberty, economical liberty and national liberty.. so I found a very good way to combine all these and its called my life.. each and everyone of us should work on his life the way he wants.. you want to practice Islam go ahead, u dont want to practice, FINE.. u got me.. just make sure you dont mess with Islam as well as freadom.. I do believe perfectly that Islam and liberty can go hand in hand very simply so i love things to be balanced::: this is how I do it..

I am against all terrorists, agaisnt extremists and people that misuse Islam like Al-Qaida's Binladin, like Dahir Aweys and yusuf garad.. I hate these people because they created more misery for us than they have solved a single problem... I want my religion to be as it was.. pray five times a day, dont force the religion on anyone, you can preach but you cannot force......freely move around in a country.. you can call it a moderate Islam but its the Islam that I knew when I left my country and I do believe pretty perfectly that islam can go hand in hand with liberty... .

I also hate atheists and all other kind of nonmuslims that badmouth my beautiful religion.. if you are an ethiest good for you but keep it to yourself dont mess with our minds and young peoples minds.. for the christians who hate our religion, I hate them back with vengeance and I would do anything to defend my country agianst those infidles...therefore I would like things to be balanced, respect to each and everyone.. Lakum Diinakum Walii Diin my friend....

ooh yeah, i like religion and state to be seperated as well.. its my preference I am not saying it should be but its my preferences.. this allows everyone to be part of the government while in a Islamic state only Imams (perhaps dummies who dont know how to lead a country) would be the only illigible members to the parliement....

there you have it.. my theory.. I hope some of you would understand why I am always agaisnt Sheydan Dahir Aweys depriving people from small pleasures we took fro granted such as watching the world cup.... I do believe I will be the last person who support this idiot and all the other idiots... I believe in diologue by the way, talk to solve problems and not fight..

do u get me?... anything wrong with this theory

[The rebel]

I also call some atheists extremist Some are plain stupids like AA, DD. Some are rational such FF, SL. I don't know where I put Galol. He is between the two.

There are Islamist extremists( Best example is Aiman, extreemly stupid), secular extremists(best example The Law, he is also extreemly angry).

There are average Muslims, such Gedo Boy, Gacalisa, Nabeela, Sir, Qansa, Wise Man, Kumbuli...etc and Alhamdullilah they are the majority but not loader voice like other groups.

I think Arab man is a group alone who doesn't like to critisice Islamist extremist because he left that for other extremists such atheist extremist and secular extremists and he is a self appointed lawyer for them (in Haq or batil)

That is my 2 halala

[Gamadid.]

Homer, Do you prefer Muqdisho to have remained how it was? War nin yohow Muqdisho waxaa looga kala cararay dad bahaloobay oo diin iyo dhaqan meelay raacsan yihiin la garan waayay. Now that Allah granted them a break from the slavery of the Warlords who degraded them for over a decade, I fail to understand why the likes of you are screaming so loud about the positive changes reer Muqdisho themselves are celebrating.


What has clan done for you except made you and your ilk animals?

Even the nonmuslims are welcoming the changes by taking into consideration what the locals are saying.


If you were A/Y supporter or the TFG for that matter, the rise of the courts helped him recover from oblivion, they recognize his presidency and government while the warlrods refused to even acknowledge he existed, you know what Maxamed Dheere called him "Oday daarood" "Joodaridayadii uu naga bililiqyestay"

Anyway you look at people who are antagonists to the courts, they are nothing but clanist bigots.

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="The rebel"]I also call some atheists extremist Some are plain stupids like AA, DD. Some are rational such FF, SL. I don't know where I put Galol. He is between the two. [/quote]

For one, I'm not atheist extremist. Maybe blunt and harsh in my tone. Second, I don't insult Islam (if u think otherwise, I can give u a demo of wat INSULTING Islam IS), you muslims are bunch over-sensitive little kids. Third, how many ways can you say Islam is false, there is no Allah and muslims are extremist hell-bent on violence? Most muslims are content with apostates being hunted down and murdered! Sorry but you lose all moral capital if you believe former muslims should be killed.

BTW, your bigotry and small-mindedness is showing above. Not all the ppl you listed there are atheists. But it doesn't matter to you. They're all non-muslims or NIJAS. And they're ALWAYS worse than worst muslims. Can a good kafir get into Mecca and Medina? What about the worst muslim, like Sadam?


Homer,

The world would be better place if there were more atheist of every flavour -- extremists included. Ever seen 2 atheists fighting over silly things as Gods, angels, prophets? You see that everyday with theists. Xtrians vs muslims; muslims vs muslims; hindus vs muslims etc etc. How many ppl have perished as result of religiously motivated conflicts?

Most Atheists I know are reasonable ppl. Sure there are extremists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot except they did what they did not in the name of Atheism. Still atheists ACCEPT their bad boys, NEVER would muslims do likewise. Again most atheist base their believes on REASON and EVIDENCE so there is always good chance of coming to agreement with atheist than theists becuz theists must cling to dear life unchangeable word of God good for all times. No middle ground, no comprise... for theist's world is: my way or the highway.

[Sir-Luggoyo]

Homer


The only sense you made in this garbage post of yours is, when you said AA and DD are two idiots, I grant you that and maybe you are not as stupid as you sounded b4, however, the remaining portion of your post is influenced by hatred for certain qabiil and lack of knowledge of the religion you so much wanted us to believe that you care. Seperation of State and Religion for a Muslim country is a no-go zone, that is like claiming you are smarter than your creator and your laws, rules and regulations should weigh heavier than the word of Allah (SWT)

Your hate for Habar Gidir has blinded you and you are at a crossroad whereby if Habar Gidir is Muslim, you are not, you are abandoning your faith for the sake of HG. Who said HG can not be religious? Is there an exclusive clan for religion? May the almighty Allah yahdeek, you have a very weak imaan

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="Sir-Luggoyo"]Homer


The only sense you made in this garbage post of yours is, when you said AA and DD are two idiots, [/quote]

The reigning milksop of Snet is reduced to oblique aspersions. Good! Keep it that way, it's more fitting to your character.

[hiphop50girl]

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]

Homer,

The world would be better place if there were more atheist of every flavour -- extremists included. Ever seen 2 atheists fighting over silly things as Gods, angels, prophets? You see that everyday with theists. Xtrians vs muslims; muslims vs muslims; hindus vs muslims etc etc. How many ppl have perished as result of religiously motivated conflicts?

Most Atheists I know are reasonable ppl. Sure there are extremists like Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot except they did what they did not in the name of Atheism. Still atheists ACCEPT their bad boys, NEVER would muslims do likewise. Again most atheist base their believes on REASON and EVIDENCE so there is always good chance of coming to agreement with atheist than theists becuz theists must cling to dear life unchangeable word of God good for all times. No middle ground, no comprise... for theist's world is: my way or the highway.[/quote]


DHUSA DEER...I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU....HOW COULD YOU SAY STAN, MOI AND POT WHOEVER THE FUCK THEY ARE I AINT NEVER HEARD OF THESE PPL BEFORE.................. YEAH HOW CAN YOU SAY THEY DID WHAT THEY DID BUT NEVER BLAMED IT ON ATHIESM... HOW CAN THEY ...ATHIESM IS NUTTING ...IT DONT MEAN ANYTING................. ITS LESS THEN AIR...

IT MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE TO DO SOMETING EXTREME AND NOT IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.....THAT JUST PROVES ATHIESTS ARE DUMB FOOLS......WHY DO IT THEN ARE U STUPID

EXTREMISTS IN ISLAM ON THE OTHER HAND SAY THEY'RE DOING IT FOR ISLAM...COS THEY ARE SICK AND TIRED SEEING WHAT'S GOIN ON TO THEIR BRO'S AND SISTERS...AND EVERYONE IS SO QUICK TO SAY 'AAAAAAAAAAAAAH OH MY DAYS THEY AR SO EVIL LOOK HOW MUSLIMS THINK' WHEN THEY ARE THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO'S LIVES ARE SO EASY...THEY AINT SUFFERING .... THERE THEY GOT FOOD ON THE TABLE, CLOTHES..ETC AND THEY CHOOSE LEADERS WHO GO ROUND DROPPIN BOMBS SHOOTIN, RAPING AND KILLIN INNOCENT LITTLE CHILDREN...MOTHERS AND FATHERS... PEOPLE LIKE US IS SITTIN BARE COMFATABLE RELAXIN... DONT CARE ENOUGH WHAT'S GOIN ON TO OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS COS WERE SELFISH....WERE BLESSED TO HAVE WHAT WE GOT ALHAMDULILAH AND EXTREMISTS ...WHO HAVE PROBABLY LOOKED MORE INTO IT THEN US AND CARE MORE THEN US FELT THEY HAD TO DO SOMETING.....THEY GONE ABOUT THE WRONG WAY STILL.......

BUT HOW SELFISH ARE WE JUST SITTIN BACK

In Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, our muslims brothers are take there and are put in prison cells which are the same height as your little 7 year old sister/bother. So they end up having back and leg problems. Along with physical torture they use psycholigical tortue too. They provinde them with Quran and then they take it away and rip it into pieces and stand upon it or piss upon it. This is our kitaab, the book that Allah (swt) had revealed to us but what are the 1.4 billion muslims doing to stop that?

In Abu Ghuraib in iraq im sure you know about this infamous prison. New pictures are coming out of prisoners being abused and totured. Our women are being dishonoured. I know You would kill your self before you see your mum being raped but that is what they are doing to them in Iraq and everywhere esle.

Allah (swt) says in the Quran: (And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help! ) (An-Nisaa’ 4: 75)

TELL ME WHO'S THE TERRORIST EXTREMIST NOW...MOST OF THEM PEOPLE AINT EVEN BEEN FOUND GUILTY


WE IN ISLAM OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS....WE AINT LIKE YOU BECAUSE WERE ALL ONE UMMAH ONE BODY IF ONE PART ACHES WE ALL FEEL IT



THIS LIFE IS A TEST AS IT SAYS SO IN THE HOLY QURAN..........IT AINT NO EASY LIFE AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IS THE WILL OF ALLAH SWT.......

[dhuusa_deer]

Hip-Hop,

Why are you screaming? Don't you know that writing in with caps on signifies anger?

The aforementioned despots didn't commit their crimes against humanity in the name of Atheism. Muslims and theists in general do all the time. Osama Bin Laden justifies killing innocent civilians in the NAME of Islam. The ppl in Mogadishu killing civilians watching TV do so in the Name of Islam. The taliban did it in the name of Islam. See the pattern?

You can huff and puff till kingdom come but here are facts: atheism is based on rational thought and EVIDENCE. Islam is based on wacky ideas and has NO evidence validating it's truthfulness.

What do you have to say about that? And please, TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF!

[hiphop50girl]

[quote="dhuusa_deer"]Hip-Hop,

Why are you screaming? Don't you know that writing in with caps on signifies anger?

The aforementioned despots didn't commit their crimes against humanity in the name of Atheism. Muslims and theists in general do all the time. Osama Bin Laden justifies killing innocent civilians in the NAME of Islam. The ppl in Mogadishu killing civilians watching TV do so in the Name of Islam. The taliban did it in the name of Islam. See the pattern?

You can huff and puff till kingdom come but here are facts: atheism is based on rational thought and EVIDENCE. Islam is based on wacky ideas and has NO evidence validating it's truthfulness.

What do you have to say about that? And please, TURN THE CAPS LOCK OFF![/quote]



OSAMA BIN LADEN WORKS FOR BUSH SO DONT CHAT ABOUT THAT WASTEMAN

ISLAM HAS PLEMTY OF FACTS BUT UR TO BLIND AND IGNORANT TO SEE THEM...WHY ISIT SCIENTISTS AFTER YEARS OF RESEARCH FIND OUT WHAT IS ALREADY SAID IN THE QURAN WHICH WAS REVEALED MILLION AND MILLION OF YEARS AGO BUT I AINT BOTHERED TO FIND THEM OUT FOR YOU IF U REALLY WAS TRULY INTRESTED IN FNDING OUT ABOUT ISLAM YOU WOULD FIND A PROPER IMAN OR SCHOLAR WITH BARE KNOWLEDGE ALL UR QUESTIONS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HAVE ASKED THEM BEFORE....COS ALL UR QUESTIONS CAN BE ANSWERED BUT ONLY IF U WANNA KNOW....AND IS WILLIN TO LISTEN

BTW UR CHATTIN TOOOOOO MUCH AIR ABOUT ATHIESM....WHAT FACTS PLEEEASE DONT MAKE ME LAUGH AHAHHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAA U SAY U GOT EVIDENCE OKAY WAS U THERE WHEN U HEARD THE BIG BANG WAS U THERE FOR ANYTHING.......NO U WERENT I DONT CARE WHAT f-king SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THEIR WAS......IF THEIR WAS... TELL THEM TO DO IT AGAIN AND MAKE ANOTHER PLANET FOR U FOOLS TO MOVE TO

[hiphop50girl]

ATHIEST THINK IF GOD EXISTS WHY'S THEIR SO MUCH EVIL.............AND THEY NEVER WANNA LISTEN....THIS LIFE IS A TEST NUTTING MORE NUTTING LESSS....YOU'LL GET WHAT YOU DESERVE IN THE END................NUTTINGS FREE........WORK HARD THEN YOU'LL GET PAYED

Al-Ibtilaa' means to be tried or tested. Allah tests us with wealth, plenty, ease and power just as He tests us with poverty, hardship and oppression. Al-Ibtilaa' is a sunnah of Allah Most High. Throughout history, Allah has tested the bearers of His messages and others among His slaves. The test of Allah can be very hard, but by means of it Allah raises the level of His prophets and erases the sins of the righteous believers. The complete defeat of the Muslims and the overrunning of their homes and property by the disbelievers is NOT one of Allah's tests which he puts on the believers. Rather, it is a sign of their having fallen out of Allah's favor through their crimes and sins.

The Prophet(sas) informed us that the presence of tests indicates the presence of iman and that a believer may continue to be tested until he has no sin remaining. Although Allah's tests can benefit us in the long run, a believer does not wish for the test of Allah - rather he always hopes for the forgiveness and mercy of Allah Most High. Allah said in the Qur'an:

{And we will surely test you with some fear, hunger and shortages of property, people and produce. But give good tidings to the steadfast. Those who, when a calamity befalls them say: "We belong to Allah and to Him we return." Upon these are prayers from their Lord and mercy and these are the rightly-guided ones.}
Al-Baqarah: 155-157

Allah's test which we may face include:

Fear - a state of insecurity and fear from harm which may be inflicted by enemies or oppressive rulers or common criminals. This is a test currently being faced by Muslims in many parts of the world.
Hunger - local famines from natural causes or as a result of war and oppression.
Shortage of Property - caused by imbalances in the Muslim Ummah and the failure for parts of it to help other parts. There will never global poverty or famine in this Ummah because Allah has promised never to destroy the Muslims with these things.
Shortage of People - from death through diseases or jihad or the abandmonent of Islam by many of its people.

When afflicted with these kind of tests, a believer remembers Allah and that Allah created us from nothing, is in full control of all events and is the one who we will face for judgement in the hereafter. This is the consciousness of the qadr (omnipotence) of Allah Most High. This is the consciousness which gives us patience and steadfastness before whatever tests we may face from Allah.

In another verse, Allah said:

{We will surely test you in your wealth and in yourselves and you will hear many hurtful things from those who were given the book before you and from those who associate others with Allah. If you are steadfast and beware of Allah, that is the strongest position.}
Aal 'Imraan: 186

Allah here warns us of some of the hardships we will definitely face as Muslims in this world. Wealth can be a test both when it is plentiful and when it is scarce. The Prophet (sas) stated in the hadith that he did not fear for his nation poverty, rather he feared for us the ill effects of plenty. Likewise, a shortage of 'selves' (i.e., manpower) can leave us exposed and weak before our enemies while military strength while large numbers of forces could tempt some among us to transgress beyond the bounds of jihad and engage in oppression, exploitation and imperialism or to form alliances with unislamic elements hoping for "victory".

Allah also prepares us for the abuse that we will definitely hear from non-Muslims, both "those who were given the book before you" meaning the Christians and the Jews and "those who associate others with Allah" meaning all of the disbelieving groups on this earth other than the Christians and the Jews. They will torment us with unjust statements and slander about our religion and about us as individuals and groups. This is just another test of Allah. If we are steadfast and conscious of Allah and His complete power over all things, these tests will only increase us in belief and in effort to raise the Word of Allah uppermost in this earth.

Al-Fudhail ibn 'Iyaadhh said: "Whoever complains about a calamity which comes his way it is as if he has complained against his Lord."

It has been said: "Four things of the treasures of paradise: concealing a calamity, concealing the giving of charity, concealing your need and concealing pain."

Shuraih once heard a friend complaining about some difficulty which has come his way. He took him by the hand and said: "Beware of taking your troubles to other than Allah. For the one to whom you confide can only be either a friend or an enemy. If he is a friend, then you will make him sad for you and he cannot benefit you anyway. If he is an enemy, he will be pleased and take some advantage over you. Look at this eye of mine. By Allah, I have not seen any person or the way to go with it for fifteen years and I have never told anyone about it until this moment. Have you not heard the statement of the righteous slave (Ya'qoob): "I only raise my distress and my grief to Allah". So, make Allah the one to whom you take your troubles and your grief when anything bad happens to you. He is the most gracious of those who are asked and the closest of those who are called."

[dhuusa_deer]

[quote="hiphop50girl"]

ISLAM HAS PLEMTY OF FACTS BUT UR TO BLIND AND IGNORANT TO SEE THEM...[quote]

To be honest with you I wasn't all to surprised you say that... it's standard theist cop-out. And every time they pull out that card -- ur too blind to see blah blah blah -- it's when their ineptness dawns on them. Hell, your prophet had a verse calling nonmuslims back then dumb, deaf and blind. What changed? But you forget one crucial bit of info: 4/5 of humanity thinks your faith is FALSE. What gives?




[quote] WAS U THERE WHEN U HEARD THE BIG BANG WAS U THERE FOR ANYTHING.......NO U WERENT I DONT CARE WHAT **** SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE THEIR WAS......IF THEIR WAS... TELL THEM TO DO IT AGAIN AND MAKE ANOTHER PLANET FOR U FOOLS TO MOVE TO [/quote]

where u there when ur great-grandpa was alive? did u ever hear him speak? but u KNOW he existed right?

same thing about the past... we got evidence to infer judgement.

[Galol]

DD

Why do you respond to everything and everybody my mate? I mean I couldnt read a thing cos of the quoutes and couter quotes and capitals you are exchanging with little girl hiphop.

Sense for equality taken a little too far?

Rebel

I love all things in the middle..ahsanil ashya awsadahum...Just think of all the nice things that lie in the middle...

[The rebel]

Good for you ya mokharf. But the says goes like " khayro al omoor awsatohaa' and not 'things' it's 'issues' .

Why I'm even bothering with you old man and explain things to you? Go back and keep drinking the 'sam al hary" Ele tashraboh

[dhuusa_deer]

Galol,

a bit disheartened by the ignorant gibberish flooding this place. the needle has tipped too far to the other side, magical thinking is taking over. felt I gotta counteract before more little kids are lost to Aimans and Arabmans. did u notice Aiman is posting religious screeds again?

[Galol]

Rebel

boy you have one dirty mind on you. Of course I was talking about issues in the middle! Are you that age where you have only one thing in your mind? You see a female elephant you look at her P...y; you see a car the exhaust looks like P...y; you see a cat and that cat will come out walking funny from the garage?

That age are you? Poor boy. marry a pillow and do the fateha and everything will be alright. Good luck