An Infamous Quote

[AbdiWahab252]

Mengistu's features were far more "Negroid" than the average highlander Ethiopian, which Paul Henze believes gave him an inferiority complex; Henze also notes that while receiving military training in the United States, Mengistu experienced racial discrimination, which led him to a later strong anti-American sentiment (Henze, however, was unable to find evidence of any such incidents).[5] When he took power, and attended the meeting of Derg members at the Fourth Division headquarters in Addis Ababa, Mengistu exclaimed with emotion:

In this country, some aristocratic families automatically categorize persons with dark skin, thick lips, and kinky hair as "Barias" (Amharic for slave)... let it be clear to everybody that I shall soon make these ignoramuses stoop and grind corn!

Ethiopian popular legend states that his family was far from proud of his political accomplishments. His grandmother, known by her nickname Totit ( "monkey"), was still alive when he seized power, and had become an Orthodox nun.

[ToughGong]

[quoteIn this country, some aristocratic families automatically categorize persons with dark skin, thick lips, and kinky hair as "Barias" (Amharic for slave)... let it be clear to everybody that I shall soon make these ignoramuses stoop and grind corn!][/quote]

INFERIORITY COMPLEX OR WHAT

[AbdiWahab252]

Seemeyer,

Yep, and for those taunts, he hung the Emperor and made the so called Superior groups suffer.

Never underestimate the impact of actions.

[Rightwing]

He ruthlessly eliminated his opponents wuxuu ahaa garac shaydaan

[The_Patriot]

Mengistu was Amhara, however much the Amhara elites tried to exclude him. I do believe that most amharas were of negroid physic. Look at Menelik how different was he from Mengistu?

As for Haile Selasie he was born in Harar after his Grandad Ras Makenon invaded the country and who knows if Haile Selasie was a byproduct of Ras Mackenon and the beautiful adari women who he took as concubines.
The most beautiful ethnic group in Ethiopia come from Harar & Wollo regions. Wollo were mostly muslims till the late 17th Century when Emporer Yohanes (Tigray) forcefully converted them into orthodox christianity in the same manner as Isabella of Spain. Wollo muslims were not Amharas. Yohanes fortunatly was beheaded in Khartoum after a failed attempt to pacify the Mahdi.

When Menelik took over he banned the use of other languages and cultures in public and made Amharic culture as the predominant culture/language it was this time that the aristocratic Amharas took women from Wollo and this brought about a new breed of Amharas called Shewa.

Today Wollos have been amharanised to the extent that they call themselves Amharas.

[The Nomad]

Mengistu was Amhara, however much the Amhara elites tried to exclude him. I do believe that most amharas were of negroid physic. Look at Menelik how different was he from Mengistu?

Mengistu is not Amhara. True Amhara are Sabean YEMENITES. Their language is Semitic. Mengistu is the son of a slave, probably of Negroid descent. I'd guess Anuak.

Meles looks nothing like Mengistu. In terms of facial structure they are leagues apart.

Pure Amhara are indistinguishable from Southern Arabians. Although they are practically non-existent due to miscegenation with Cushites.

[GENERAL_SNM]

Mengistu was Amhara, however much the Amhara elites tried to exclude him. I do believe that most amharas were of negroid physic. Look at Menelik how different was he from Mengistu?

As for Haile Selasie he was born in Harar after his Grandad Ras Makenon invaded the country and who knows if Haile Selasie was a byproduct of Ras Mackenon and the beautiful adari women who he took as concubines.
The most beautiful ethnic group in Ethiopia come from Harar & Wollo regions. Wollo were mostly muslims till the late 17th Century when Emporer Yohanes (Tigray) forcefully converted them into orthodox christianity in the same manner as Isabella of Spain. Wollo muslims were not Amharas. Yohanes fortunatly was beheaded in Khartoum after a failed attempt to pacify the Mahdi.

When Menelik took over he banned the use of other languages and cultures in public and made Amharic culture as the predominant culture/language it was this time that the aristocratic Amharas took women from Wollo and this brought about a new breed of Amharas called Shewa.

Today Wollos have been amharanised to the extent that they call themselves Amharas.

Man you must feel like your reading your own future...

[The_Patriot]

Mengistu was Amhara, however much the Amhara elites tried to exclude him. I do believe that most amharas were of negroid physic. Look at Menelik how different was he from Mengistu?

As for Haile Selasie he was born in Harar after his Grandad Ras Makenon invaded the country and who knows if Haile Selasie was a byproduct of Ras Mackenon and the beautiful adari women who he took as concubines.
The most beautiful ethnic group in Ethiopia come from Harar & Wollo regions. Wollo were mostly muslims till the late 17th Century when Emporer Yohanes (Tigray) forcefully converted them into orthodox christianity in the same manner as Isabella of Spain. Wollo muslims were not Amharas. Yohanes fortunatly was beheaded in Khartoum after a failed attempt to pacify the Mahdi.

When Menelik took over he banned the use of other languages and cultures in public and made Amharic culture as the predominant culture/language it was this time that the aristocratic Amharas took women from Wollo and this brought about a new breed of Amharas called Shewa.

Today Wollos have been amharanised to the extent that they call themselves Amharas.

Man you must feel like your reading your own future...

My HJ friend seems like by 2010 there will be more xabashi in Berbera than in Jigjiga.

[The Nomad]

You people should speak to Ethiopians about Mengistu.

Especially the elder Habesha. His presidency is a source of national shame.

[The_Patriot]

Mengistu was Amhara, however much the Amhara elites tried to exclude him. I do believe that most amharas were of negroid physic. Look at Menelik how different was he from Mengistu?

Mengistu is not Amhara. True Amhara are Sabean YEMENITES. Their language is Semitic. Mengistu is the son of a slave, probably of Negroid descent. I'd guess Anuak.

Meles looks nothing like Mengistu. In terms of facial structure they are leagues apart.

Pure Amhara are indistinguishable from Southern Arabians. Although they are practically non-existent due to miscegenation with Cushites.

Pure Amharas? Amharas themselves are not even pure Abysinians they have always tried to plagiarise history.
Ever seen them? They have more of Negroid characterisitics.Even if some of them have paler skins they have the Kinky hair and close to boxing glove nose.

Somalis, Eritreans are the closest of the Sabean Yemenite & cushitic admixture.

Real Abysinians are Tigrayans & Northern Eritreans(Highlinders).

[The Nomad]

Pure Amharas? Amharas themselves are not even pure Abysinians they have always tried to plagiarise history.
Ever seen them? They have more of Negroid characterisitics.Even if some of them have paler skins they have the Kinky hair and close to boxing glove nose.

No they don't. Do you know what an unmixed Habesha looks like? How can they be Negroid if they have one of the highest frequencies of J1 in the Horn? To be Negroid, they'd have e3a, which is non-existent in Amhara and most of the Horn outside of slave descendants.

Somalis, Eritreans are the closest of the Sabean Yemenite & cushitic admixture.

Real Abysinians are Tigrayans & Northern Eritreans(Highlinders).

Tigrayans and Amhara share common historical links. They have essentially the same origin. You can't say Tigrayans are Sabean and Amhara aren't, it isn't possible.

As for Somalis, outside of Darod they are all pure Cushitic. No different to Oromo. Their paternal haplotype is e3b.

[The Nomad]

To put it in layman's terms, Tigrayans are essentially Amhara without the Southern Oromo admixture.

Nowadays, pure Amhara are only found in isolated Northern regions, like Manz and Tegulet.

[The_Patriot]

You people should speak to Ethiopians about Mengistu.

Especially the elder Habesha. His presidency is a source of national shame.

There is nothing called Ethiopia it was just a name that Haile Selasie was asked to use by the West in order to hide they Abysinian attrocities and the conditions of the indeginous people who leave in that region.

'Ethiopia' was a very wealthy region prior the Amhara invasion of the South, Under Menilik a Feudalistic country was curved out Amharas/HAbesha being the most detitute and backward regions in the land were given free weapons by the colonialists while their rivals Somalis, Afars, Eritreans were starved deliberatly . This created an imbalance and gave Amhara the upper hand. Hence many ethnic groups were dominated and peasants from Gojjam/Gonder were sent to this regions and were responsible for collecting land taxes from the subjects. With time they became very wealthy at the expense of the locals and with this came pride and with pride they went overboard and plagiarised history rerering to their subjects as subhumans and created a utopia of 3000yrs of civilisation. Over this period of time the West did infact turn a blind eye on the attrocities commited in that region. Never in Africa has Genocide occured that superceds Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is one of Africas highest rate of Taxation and its the country that receives the highest foreign aid yet the commoners are mostly paupers. Though Ogadenia is the most marginalised state in the region however the locals have a better life than anywhere in Ethiopia. What is left as a pride of Ethiopia is Addis Ababa and in reality more than 80% of the people there are paupers.

[The_Patriot]

To put it in layman's terms, Tigrayans are essentially Amhara without the Southern Oromo admixture.

Nowadays, pure Amhara are only found in isolated Northern regions, like Manz and Tegulet.

Dude Tigrayans came before Amharas. Tigrinyan language is close to the Arabic language while Amharic has a clicking sound and seems more African.

Can you explain the negroid features of Amharas? definatly its not from cushitic admixture.

[The Nomad]

You people should speak to Ethiopians about Mengistu.

Especially the elder Habesha. His presidency is a source of national shame.

There is nothing called Ethiopia it was just a name that Haile Selasie was asked to use by the West in order to hide they Abysinian attrocities and the conditions of the indeginous people who leave in that region.

'Ethiopia' was a very wealthy region prior the Amhara invasion of the South, Under Menilik a Feudalistic country was curved out Amharas/HAbesha being the most detitute and backward regions in the land were given free weapons by the colonialists while their rivals Somalis, Afars, Eritreans were starved deliberatly . This created an imbalance and gave Amhara the upper hand. Hence many ethnic groups were dominated and peasants from Gojjam/Gonder were sent to this regions and were responsible for collecting land taxes from the subjects. With time they became very wealthy at the expense of the locals and with this came pride and with pride they went overboard and plagiarised history rerering to their subjects as subhumans and created a utopia of 3000yrs of civilisation. Over this period of time the West did infact turn a blind eye on the attrocities commited in that region. Never in Africa has Genocide occured that superceds Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is one of Africas highest rate of Taxation and its the country that receives the highest foreign aid yet the commoners are mostly paupers. Though Ogadenia is the most marginalised state in the region however the locals have a better life than anywhere in Ethiopia. What is left as a pride of Ethiopia is Addis Ababa and in reality more than 80% of the people there are paupers.

Semantics. Call it what you like.

There was no genocide, Amhara will only strengthen their grip on the country. When the Woyane are deposed, the Amhara elite will return to their throne. This is because Oromo have always been utterly worthless, their 'revolution' has been touted for decades.

Do you know what genocide means? That does not qualify as genocide. This reads like OLF propaganda to be frank. Oromo leadership accept that they were never dehumanized or oppressed systematically. It was merely the strong taking the lead, not inhumane treatment.

As for Ogaden, they are not worth discussing.