Who Was Behind the 21 October "Kacaan"?

[IRONm@N]

Actually the two generals/conolels behind the 1969 Coup D'etat were Hawiye and Isaaq, Major General Salaad Gabeyre Kediye (hawiye), and General Aynashe (isaaq) led the coup. Said Barre was just sitting and waiting in the interior ministers house, while these guys planned, and executed it brilliantly, he couldn't do it without these guys. Gabeyre was subsequently named the "Father of the Revolution", and Barre became the head of the Supreme Revolutionary Council. but because Said Barre was threatened that they will over take the party, he executed them after two years.


major general Salad Gabeyre Kediye

[ArcadeFire]

Was he in charge of the interior ministry? Nasser and Saddam Hussein were in charge of the interior ministries at the time of coup/revolution, in charge of the police and secret service.

[Navy9]

and why were they against the government?

[The_Emperior5]

Actually the two generals/conolels behind the 1969 Coup D'etat were Hawiye and Isaaq, Major General Salaad Gabeyre Kediye (hawiye), and Jama Korshel (isaaq) led the coup. Said Barre was just sitting and waiting in the interior ministers house, while these guys planned, and executed it brilliantly, he couldn't do it without these guys. Gabeyre was subsequently named the "Father of the Revolution", and Barre became the head of the Supreme Revolutionary Council. but because Said Barre was threatened that they will over take the party, he executed them after two years.


major general Salad Gabeyre Kediye

Jamac qorsheel was not isaaq he was daarood
But General Caynaashe was isaaq

[IRONm@N]

Actually the two generals/conolels behind the 1969 Coup D'etat were Hawiye and Isaaq, Major General Salaad Gabeyre Kediye (hawiye), and Jama Korshel (isaaq) led the coup. Said Barre was just sitting and waiting in the interior ministers house, while these guys planned, and executed it brilliantly, he couldn't do it without these guys. Gabeyre was subsequently named the "Father of the Revolution", and Barre became the head of the Supreme Revolutionary Council. but because Said Barre was threatened that they will over take the party, he executed them after two years.


major general Salad Gabeyre Kediye

Jamac qorsheel was not isaaq he was daarood
But General Caynaashe was isaaq

Oh yea, I meant Ayanshe, korshel him self was born in Somaliland, that is why thought he was the one.

[The_Emperior5]

Qorsheel is a somalilander he is warsangali

[Navy9]

Was he in charge of the interior ministry? Nasser and Saddam Hussein were in charge of the interior ministries at the time of coup/revolution, in charge of the police and secret service.

Nasir was from the Free Officers organization, Naguib his boss was the 1st president.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Ilaaheyow, I wonder how different things would have been if those two men lead the country instead of that brute?

[grandpakhalif]

Mental retardation is a bitch

[ArcadeFire]

Was he in charge of the interior ministry? Nasser and Saddam Hussein were in charge of the interior ministries at the time of coup/revolution, in charge of the police and secret service.

Nasir was from the Free Officers organization, Naguib his boss was the 1st president.

Yeah he took over in '54 , but he was pulling the strings before, when you pay the army and secret service you have all the power.

[IRONm@N]

and why were they against the government?

because there was too much corruption and nepotism in the civilians government, and the civilian government lost Ogaden region to Ethiopia and NFD to kenya under their watch, the military decided to step in and take over.
also Somalia had about 90 parties (tribal parties) running for elections and ppl were Buying the votes of other clans.

[ArcadeFire]

Thats why I dont understand why people say he created mistrust amongst clans, people only trusted their sub-sub-clans, they still do

[Navy9]

Was he in charge of the interior ministry? Nasser and Saddam Hussein were in charge of the interior ministries at the time of coup/revolution, in charge of the police and secret service.

Nasir was from the Free Officers organization, Naguib his boss was the 1st president.

Yeah he took over in '54 , but he was pulling the strings before, when you pay the army and secret service you have all the power.

Nasir paid the army, from where? I don't think he had that power not until the monarchy was over and the free officers revolted! But yeah he was pulling the strings for Naguib, i agree.

[IRONm@N]

Thats why I dont understand why people say he created mistrust amongst clans, people only trusted their sub-sub-clans, they still do

well even though the civilian government was corrupted, one thing good about it was freedom of speech, ppl openly opposed the government, and media such as national journals sometimes criticized the government. but after Said Barre there was no freedom of speech, if you criticize, you were dubbed as anti-kacaan and prisoned or killed.
now, Said Barre wasn't fully tribalism until late 70s early 80s, when he only trusted his closest relatives and kin, but before in 1977, he tried to stop tribalism and sometimes even went as long as burying and ephagy of tribalism.

[ArcadeFire]

I meant when the Free Officers took over in July, he was given the interior ministry (I think). I had a class on Nasser and Pan-Arabism today