2011 somali situation from hawiye perspective.

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2011 somali situation from hawiye perspective.

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isaaq ,rahanweyn,hawiye,daarood are 70% of somalia and this is what is happening politically.


ISAAQ
They want to secede from somalia not out of nationalism or other thing,but their secession is mainly because they were marginalized in the politics of post indepedence.they were under dir confederacy and saw hawiye and daarood fight over the politics of the country and forgetting about isaaq.they have managed to make their secessionist voice by making up stories like
hargeysa massacre even though there is no evidence to support such idea.these guys are basically in trouble because they exclusively live in 2 regions where they share 3 regions with other clans like awdal,sool and sanaag.if there is a referendum in somaliland and these people voiced their support for united somalia then they are in trouble.sool and sanaag are now part of and parcel somaliland.


Daarood
Mj are stranded in nugaal and bari where they created puntland,mudug is shared therefore conflicts are always there.they have a calture of not fighting and are bullied by war like subclans in both of their frontiers.a very good evidence of my assertion is the fact that qaldaans are eating Khat and watching porn in laascaanood which few kilo meters from garowe the capital of puntland while sacad can do what ever he wants and no one can resist him because he is hawiye.other useless clans in puntland will be massacred if they rise or even question why only a single subclan dominates the admin they are supposedly thought to be part of.garsoor incident ,galgala war is a glaring example.

Marehan,these guys are found in central somalia,gedo ,jubbas and banadir and are after a dream called jubbaland ,they are aggressively pushing it and have become one of the most influencial clans in jubbas.


Ogaaden

These guys are out of the picture because they are fighting a legitimate cause to free their land from a sad excuse nation called ethiopia which i am sure they will get it.some of them live in parts of somalia like jubba but they are just like everybody who lives there.no single clan can claim it as many clans live.they are pushing some love state azania however,other inhabitants of the region like hawiye,rahanweyn,jareer fiercely oppose clan dominated kenyan sponsored admin.it will be pointless to talk about a maamul in jubba with out the inclusion of all major clans.


Hawiye

The hawiye are found everywhere in somalia but concentrate their degaans from mudug in galkacyo to kismaayo in lower jubba.

The sacad habargidr formed galmudug while the agoonyar abgaal are the traditional highest officer holders presidents,prime ministers of somalia.the hawiye influences south and central somalia and somalia overall.


rahanweyn
they dwell and live in 7 regions in somalia,bay,bakool,both shabell,both jubba,gedo ,NFD As well as Ethiopia occupied somali land aka ogadenya.

i have no idea about their political views,but they want to be forerunners in the adminstration of these regions they inhabit and co-own.
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What a horribly biased piece.

The massacre did happen in Sland, go there and see for yourself.. Tens of thousands of peoples bones have been found

Also, u big up the abgaal clan but fail to mention the warrior Sacads of the Habar Gidir

A sacad man shall be our next democratically elected president

The man of the dna of mohamed farah aidid will rule the great nation of somalia with an iron fist

Inshallah ameen ameen ameen
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Naanaab . Uganda baa gaadh ka haysa adiga , ma baan hadalyn ba anigu haddaan adiga aha .
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Acudubillahi minashaydani rajiim

Abgaal perspect is not hawiye perspective

What a crime u have committed,

Habar Gidir r the kings of hawiyes

Know your role saxiib, u cannot give opinions on behalf of hawiye

What u can do is type up habar gidir opinion pieces (which are essentially hawiye opinion) and print them out and do the secretary job

Lakiin the formulating of opinions and idead is strictly habar gidir

Howver , u r expected to type it out on microsoft word and distribute it to the public
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fighter wrote:Acudubillahi minashaydani rajiim

Abgaal perspect is not hawiye perspective

What a crime u have committed,

Habar Gidir r the kings of hawiyes

Know your role saxiib, u cannot give opinions on behalf of hawiye

What u can do is type up habar gidir opinion pieces (which are essentially hawiye opinion) and print them out and do the secretary job

Lakiin the formulating of opinions and idead is strictly habar gidir

Howver , u r expected to type it out on microsoft word and distribute it to the public



Emotional Boy,I am harti abgaal,My Role is that of a leader and you (Sacad) that of a servent,you are sacad,jealousy will not get you anywhere,stick to galmudug and ask us when you need help,We discuss habargidir affairs with the real HG ayr leaders who live in Banadir,Marka ,lowershabelle.
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bullshit talks do us a favor build your degans first then talk about others
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Post by gurey25 »

abgaalking for your information..

Isaaq was under dir confederacy for the first 300 years of their existance from the late 1200's till the mid 1500's.
during those 300 years we were a small clan that lived under dir, just like carab salax live under the majerteen today.
But we outgrew our dir protectors and we were no longer associated with dir for the last 500 years.
we are bani isxaaq, not dir..

just because irirism was used a political ploy in the 60s, do not forget that we are not dir, never were.


If you want isaaq to take you seriously, do not spout that dir shit.!!!!!
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abgaalking


far Soomaaliga ma aqrin kartaa sxb?

Beelweeynta Sacad Siciid waad u gaftay sxb hadalada aad meesha kusoo qortay waa aflagaado sxb.

Abgaalking sxb Hawiye ma sidaas baa ku hogaaminee inaad Sacad wax kasheegto oo ah Beesha Hawiye ugu Siyaasada culus ugu dhaqaalaha iyo hubka badan ugu raganimada badan inaad aflagaadeeso sidee baad wax u wataa niyahoow.

Inaan anigoo kuu gafin su aal kuweeydiiyo ayaan rabaa laakiin Af Somali ayaa ku soo qorayaa.

hadii aad Af Soomaaliga aqrin garto iisoo jawaab.
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I am sure everyone can read Somali here. :lol:
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accident wrote:I am sure everyone can read Somali here. :lol:
Are you sure about that? I would say only about 35% of SNet members can read/write Af Somali and 80% can speak and understand Somali. So yes i had to ask that question whether he can read Af Somali or not.
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gurey25 wrote:abgaalking for your information..

Isaaq was under dir confederacy for the first 300 years of their existance from the late 1200's till the mid 1500's.
during those 300 years we were a small clan that lived under dir, just like carab salax live under the majerteen today.
But we outgrew our dir protectors and we were no longer associated with dir for the last 500 years.
we are bani isxaaq, not dir..

just because irirism was used a political ploy in the 60s, do not forget that we are not dir, never were.


If you want isaaq to take you seriously, do not spout that dir shit.!!!!!
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